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Apple Seeds OS X 10.7.2 Build 11C37 and iCloud Beta 7 to Developers
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See, I'm on a MBP i5 with only 4Gb and Lion hasn't really degraded the performance of it at all. I guess YMMV. The only thing I'd say that I have noticed where there is a performance drop has been to do with carbon apps (I'm looking at you Office 2011), but I suspect it has more to do with the apps not being updated yet than anything, so I don't really have anyone to blame.
Oh and Safari Web Content is a bleedin' RAM hog, we can surely all agree on that.
I don't know if he/she is "worthless" but I do know trolls who troll sites they have no interest in, have way too much time on their hands, probably a pretty sad life and the ones I know are terribly lonely. Some of my buds have a theory this may be their only contact with people, as off topic and poorly informed as their posts are.
Kind of like a guy going in a BMW dealer every day and shouting "my kia has features bmw hasn't even dreamed about" then chugging away in their kia.
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Have you noticed any reduction in battery life? That is pretty much the only thing I'm worried about...
You need to run the reversioner first. Problem is that the new 10.7.2 sees 10.7.2 installed already so it just goes 'Well, my work here is done'. When clearly it's not.
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See, at first the battery life remaining counter worried the bejeezers out of me and said around 3 hours left (on snow leopard it took around 7 hours on average). But I guess it was just calibrating itself, and after a day it figure out the counter went back upto 7, so to be honest, no, Lion has the same battery life for me (maybe minus 20 mins I guess, but who's counting?)
Which is good, as I hate lugging the charger around with me all day.
What's in Lion for the "rest of us?"
The only time that I only use one display is when I'm out of the office. I have a 30" HP display that has a DisplayPort & DL DVI connectors on it. That means that a $5 cable will do for video. When using my Intel Mac Pro I use 2-5 displays depending on whether a customer is here &/or what work I'm doing.
Because I do not use a track pad or any Apple pointing device much of the change is of no use for me. I also don't like the seeming dumbing down of the OS to make it into a version of iOS. Maybe this is to get us ready for Mac OS XI iOS version for the Mac.
So a feature that at first sounded that it could be the first useful feature for me to use proved not to be able to do that.
I'm trying to get some positive reasons for using Mac OS 10.7 Lion. So far I'm not sure there is anything positive on the list. The ability to turn off what Apple has called a new feature is about the only thing that ranks above negative.
The only time that I only use one display is when I'm out of the office. I have a 30" HP display that has a DisplayPort & DL DVI connectors on it. That means that a $5 cable will do for video. When using my Intel Mac Pro I use 2-5 displays depending on whether a customer is here &/or what work I'm doing.
Because I do not use a track pad or any Apple pointing device much of the change is of no use for me. I also don't like the seeming dumbing down of the OS to make it into a version of iOS. Maybe this is to get us ready for Mac OS XI iOS version for the Mac.
So a feature that at first sounded that it could be the first useful feature for me to use proved not to be able to do that.
I'm trying to get some positive reasons for using Mac OS 10.7 Lion. So far I'm not sure there is anything positive on the list. The ability to turn off what Apple has called a new feature is about the only thing that ranks above negative.
The question is whether the 10.7.2 seeds are 10.7.0+iCloud or actually 10.7.1+iCloud. I would have guessed the latter but the developers should be able to tell. Apple is likely accumulating fixes for 10.7.0 in this build as well as adding iCloud. The moment they want to release 10.7.1, the iCloud parts of that seed get culled and it is released.
I'm glad that with the millions and millions they saved by not having to research and create a unique device that forever changed the market it entered, that they managed to figure out wireless syncing. Your fandom is well placed.
That may be true
I agree with you that Mac OS 10.7.0 is the most stable 10.x.0 version shipped. But for me the stability still does not make up for all of the losses of useful 10.6.8 useful features. Even after turning many off there still is many missing items for the way I use my Mac. Since these are planned losses of useful features in previous Mac OS versions they are not bugs, thus there is nothing for Apple to fix even if they were so inclined to.
I've been running Mac OS 10.7.0 Lion since within an hour of when it was available. I still have not found a real new feature that I put in the positive useful column. I haven't decided whether it is a useful feature for all running programs & windows that are open too reload on restarting Lion.
But at least there are no bugs. I'm glad that I have several hard drives in my Intel Mac Pro so that I can easily keep a good copy of Mac OS 10.6.8 or anyone back to the Mac OS 10.4.X that shipped 5 years ago with my first Intel Mac.
Because of the lack of bugs in Lion I have been able to trust the system enough to do some real useful work. Some things that some people think are bugs are probably really because of a change in the feature set.
I agree with you that Mac OS 10.7.0 is the most stable 10.x.0 version shipped. But for me the stability still does not make up for all of the losses of useful 10.6.8 useful features. Even after turning many off there still is many missing items for the way I use my Mac. Since these are planned losses of useful features in previous Mac OS versions they are not bugs, thus there is nothing for Apple to fix even if they were so inclined to.
I've been running Mac OS 10.7.0 Lion since within an hour of when it was available. I still have not found a real new feature that I put in the positive useful column. I haven't decided whether it is a useful feature for all running programs & windows that are open too reload on restarting Lion.
But at least there are no bugs. I'm glad that I have several hard drives in my Intel Mac Pro so that I can easily keep a good copy of Mac OS 10.6.8 or anyone back to the Mac OS 10.4.X that shipped 5 years ago with my first Intel Mac.
Because of the lack of bugs in Lion I have been able to trust the system enough to do some real useful work. Some things that some people think are bugs are probably really because of a change in the feature set.
Don't Panic!
Concurrent version builds are common in the industry. For example, Firefox 6 isn't even out yet, but version 8 is already out as alpha (early test release, before beta). Likewise, I'd be suprised if Apple didn't have a designated 10.7.3 build internally already.
Concurrent version builds are common in the industry. For example, Firefox 6 isn't even out yet, but version 8 is already out as alpha (early test release, before beta). Likewise, I'd be suprised if Apple didn't have a designated 10.7.3 build internally already.
"Arrange By..." in the finder is quite nice, particularly the "opened today" view. However, I don't know what "by name" is for.
There are general OS bugfixes & tweaks unrelated to iCloud in 10.7.2. So I'd go with the 10.7.1+iCloud theory.
Just about the main Apple OS - iOS
But since the Mac OS is just a subset of the iOS set I guess that means that we are really talking about the iOS. Because the Android OS is in competition with the iOS I would tend to believe that this is a valid point. I chose an Android phone because I did not like AT&T & new that Verizon while having better voice service they can even be harder to deal with then AT&T. That doesn't mean that I believe that the Android OS is better than the iOS. It is just that the Android will do what I want it too including wireless & Wi-Fi syncing since I first got it. In fact before we were back to the office after getting our Android phones everything is synced in. My wife does 95% of her email reading on her Android phone. I am not a troll as the only computer systems that I own or ever have owned that can boot natively into the Windows OS has been our Intel Macs. I've owned at least 20-25 Macs since my first Mac 128 back in 1984.
I would like to see the Mac OS a lot more separated from iOS. I do not want the trend of only having an iOS for the small iToys & an iOS for the large Macs. Oh & by the way I do own a 3rd gen iPod Touch, several other iPods & a 64 GB WiFi + 3g iPad 2 that one of our clients purchased for us. Then the second one will be here when the iPad 3 comes out. So I am not against the iOS in & of itself. It is just because I want a totally separate OS on my Mac. Then if people mention things like the Android OS we can say that they are off topic.
But since the Mac OS is just a subset of the iOS set I guess that means that we are really talking about the iOS. Because the Android OS is in competition with the iOS I would tend to believe that this is a valid point. I chose an Android phone because I did not like AT&T & new that Verizon while having better voice service they can even be harder to deal with then AT&T. That doesn't mean that I believe that the Android OS is better than the iOS. It is just that the Android will do what I want it too including wireless & Wi-Fi syncing since I first got it. In fact before we were back to the office after getting our Android phones everything is synced in. My wife does 95% of her email reading on her Android phone. I am not a troll as the only computer systems that I own or ever have owned that can boot natively into the Windows OS has been our Intel Macs. I've owned at least 20-25 Macs since my first Mac 128 back in 1984.
I would like to see the Mac OS a lot more separated from iOS. I do not want the trend of only having an iOS for the small iToys & an iOS for the large Macs. Oh & by the way I do own a 3rd gen iPod Touch, several other iPods & a 64 GB WiFi + 3g iPad 2 that one of our clients purchased for us. Then the second one will be here when the iPad 3 comes out. So I am not against the iOS in & of itself. It is just because I want a totally separate OS on my Mac. Then if people mention things like the Android OS we can say that they are off topic.
Can't wait for iCloud syncing... you think ATT's ready with the additional data bandwidth?
Why do you think AT&T has been cracking down on unauthorized tethering?
But the way it works now makes dual monitors far less useful.
And Apple knows people use it hell, they were showing dual monitors over Thunderbolt just a few weeks back.
Please explain further
I have used different programs through the ages to keep me fro having to use the Finder or for the last many years the Dock. Thus since I do not spend a lot of time at the Finder level you'll need to explain your options & what there use(s) would be.
Thanks,
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But they don't expect anyone that has more than 1 display to actually use the full screen view.
Because of other limitations I have not used full screen viewing 99+% of the time. I was hoping that this would be able to change. But I will not give up the use of displays 2- 5 just to have a full screen view.
I have used different programs through the ages to keep me fro having to use the Finder or for the last many years the Dock. Thus since I do not spend a lot of time at the Finder level you'll need to explain your options & what there use(s) would be.
Thanks,
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But they don't expect anyone that has more than 1 display to actually use the full screen view.
Because of other limitations I have not used full screen viewing 99+% of the time. I was hoping that this would be able to change. But I will not give up the use of displays 2- 5 just to have a full screen view.
You really have no clue how wrong you are. Mac OS X a subset of iOS: you are kidding right? It seems you are not burdened with any technical know how about what's based on what here.
As well, the icon size slider in Finder is now broken, and they really need to get Mission Control to show more than just a small fraction of what's running.
iCloud looks amazing, but but I have yet to see how it's going to work in a multi-user environment, like a family or small business. Hoping all this innovation isn't just limited to single-users. ...like Time Machine is. Keep your files on a server where several people access them? Whaaa? Craaaazy talk!
Finder, Mission Control, Time Machine, iCloud.
Pleeeease.
