Apple Seeds OS X Mavericks 10.9.4 Build 13E19 to Developers

[WallToWallMacs]

Where have you been the last years? People have been complaining all over the place since SL was replaced. Yes, Mavericks is better than Lion, but all stable? Really not. Things should indeed go back as they where, stability before glamour.

Again, are you getting kernel panics all the time? what do you mean by instability? do you actually mean bugs or instability? how about learning the terms before opening your mouth and spouting off half baked rants about nothing. This place used to actually be an enjoyable website to visit to find out the latest rumours but god damn this place is filled with people who can't even get the basics of computer knowledge hammered down.

 

[theBostonian]

Again, are you getting kernel panics all the time? what do you mean by instability? do you actually mean bugs or instability? how about learning the terms before opening your mouth and spouting off half baked rants about nothing. This place used to actually be an enjoyable website to visit to find out the latest rumours but god damn this place is filled with people who can't even get the basics of computer knowledge hammered down.

What basics? Fundamentally, a computer ought to be able to do things such as process large amounts of data or perform processor intensive tasks such as video/audio processing without stuttering or causing the system to lock up/seize.

There ought to be a switch in OS X where people can turn off unnecessary effects such as shadows, transparency, transitions and other silly animations (making a quicktime or youtube video fullscreen shouldn't take 3 seconds!).

I hate it. No, kernel panics are not as endemic as they once were but other annoyances have taken its place. If one uses two systems, such as Windows, it takes a long time to shutdown OS X. Ever since Mountain Lion the time to boot up and the time to shutdown has increased. Fortunately, the time it takes to enter standby has been cut.

Do these matter for you? Probably not. Do they matter for some users of OS X? Yes!

Therefore these grievances are not borne of ignorance, they're borne of people who try hard to use their machines for their disparate uses yet finding hindrances in the shiny bells and whistles added needlessly.

If I could I would turn them all off other than smooth scrolling.

 

[SVTmaniac]

What basics? Fundamentally, a computer ought to be able to do things such as process large amounts of data or perform processor intensive tasks such as video/audio processing without stuttering or causing the system to lock up/seize.

There ought to be a switch in OS X where people can turn off unnecessary effects such as shadows, transparency, transitions and other silly animations (making a quicktime or youtube video fullscreen shouldn't take 3 seconds!).

I hate it. No, kernel panics are not as endemic as they once were but other annoyances have taken its place. If one uses two systems, such as Windows, it takes a long time to shutdown OS X. Ever since Mountain Lion the time to boot up and the time to shutdown has increased. Fortunately, the time it takes to enter standby has been cut.

Do these matter for you? Probably not. Do they matter for some users of OS X? Yes!

Therefore these grievances are not borne of ignorance, they're borne of people who try hard to use their machines for their disparate uses yet finding hindrances in the shiny bells and whistles added needlessly.

If I could I would turn them all off other than smooth scrolling.

If it takes you 3 seconds to make a video fullscreen, I suggest it's time for a new computer. Mine goes fullscreen instantly, even with all those "useless" things like shadows and opacity. Most the people that complain are running old ass hardware that should be paperweights by now.

 

[iBug2]

What basics? Fundamentally, a computer ought to be able to do things such as process large amounts of data or perform processor intensive tasks such as video/audio processing without stuttering or causing the system to lock up/seize.

There ought to be a switch in OS X where people can turn off unnecessary effects such as shadows, transparency, transitions and other silly animations (making a quicktime or youtube video fullscreen shouldn't take 3 seconds!).

I hate it. No, kernel panics are not as endemic as they once were but other annoyances have taken its place. If one uses two systems, such as Windows, it takes a long time to shutdown OS X. Ever since Mountain Lion the time to boot up and the time to shutdown has increased. Fortunately, the time it takes to enter standby has been cut.

Do these matter for you? Probably not. Do they matter for some users of OS X? Yes!

Therefore these grievances are not borne of ignorance, they're borne of people who try hard to use their machines for their disparate uses yet finding hindrances in the shiny bells and whistles added needlessly.

If I could I would turn them all off other than smooth scrolling.

None of what you listed are instabilities, and Snow Leopard was the OS that increased the amount of shadows/animations on Finder/Desktop considerably so it was the first OS that slowed things down since Apple switched to OS X. Until SL each subsequent OS X release had a faster and more responsive Finder/Desktop than before and then suddenly, that changed. The Finder was now processing much more on each command (due to being rewritten in native Cocoa and tons more stuff being add to it during that process) so everything was slower compared to Leopard. But still, it wasn't unstable in any way. It was just slower.

 

[theBostonian]

None of what you listed are instabilities, and Snow Leopard was the OS that increased the amount of shadows/animations on Finder/Desktop considerably so it was the first OS that slowed things down since Apple switched to OS X. Until SL each subsequent OS X release had a faster and more responsive Finder/Desktop than before and then suddenly, that changed. The Finder was now processing much more on each command (due to being rewritten in native Cocoa and tons more stuff being add to it during that process) so everything was slower compared to Leopard. But still, it wasn't unstable in any way. It was just slower.

So having numerous pageouts and the system slow to a crawl with just one VM using 2 CPU cores and 1GB of RAM is not a sign of system instability? I have 8GB of RAM, it should equal a speedy system but for some reason due to the new memory allocation system it does not. I've tried using purge in terminal but it seems to have little effect.

Also, if I breath on my trackpad and causing a kernel panic isn't a sign of instability? It was inadvertent and I did it because it was resting on my chest while I was watching something yet it immediately caused my system to reboot. I've also had another KP which I made a thread about but no one responded to, no idea what caused it.

If it takes you 3 seconds to make a video fullscreen, I suggest it's time for a new computer. Mine goes fullscreen instantly, even with all those "useless" things like shadows and opacity. Most the people that complain are running old ass hardware that should be paperweights by now.

It takes 3 seconds to go full screen because of the HTML 5 animation in Chromium and Safari when double clicking a youtube video. My "old equus africanus asinus" machine is a mid 2012 MBP, it is more than capable of handling the animations but the delay inherent in the animation is causing the delay. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[SVTmaniac]

So having numerous pageouts and the system slow to a crawl with just one VM using 2 CPU cores and 1GB of RAM is not a sign of system instability? I have 8GB of RAM, it should equal a speedy system but for some reason due to the new memory allocation system it does not. I've tried using purge in terminal but it seems to have little effect.

Also, if I breath on my trackpad and causing a kernel panic isn't a sign of instability? It was inadvertent and I did it because it was resting on my chest while I was watching something yet it immediately caused my system to reboot. I've also had another KP which I made a thread about but no one responded to, no idea what caused it.



It takes 3 seconds to go full screen because of the HTML 5 animation in Chromium and Safari when double clicking a youtube video. My "old equus africanus asinus" machine is a mid 2012 MBP, it is more than capable of handling the animations but the delay inherent in the animation is causing the delay. Clearly, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Clearly my late 2013 15" rMBP has no issues doing what you say takes your machine 3 seconds to do. Obviously something isn't right with your machine or your setup, figure it out instead of blaming software that works fine on everyone else's machines. Would you like me to make a video of how fast it is? I'll be happy to do that for you.

And yes, I upgrade my MacBook every refresh cycle, so a two year old MacBook would be used as a doorstop in my house.

 

[theBostonian]

Clearly my late 2013 15" rMBP has no issues doing what you say takes your machine 3 seconds to do. Obviously something isn't right with your machine or your setup, figure it out instead of blaming software that works fine on everyone else's machines. Would you like me to make a video of how fast it is? I'll be happy to do that for you.

No thanks, you've done enough already

 

[iBug2]

So having numerous pageouts and the system slow to a crawl with just one VM using 2 CPU cores and 1GB of RAM is not a sign of system instability? I have 8GB of RAM, it should equal a speedy system but for some reason due to the new memory allocation system it does not. I've tried using purge in terminal but it seems to have little effect.

No, that's not called instability. That's called a slow system.

Also, if I breath on my trackpad and causing a kernel panic isn't a sign of instability?

No.

It was inadvertent and I did it because it was resting on my chest while I was watching something yet it immediately caused my system to reboot. I've also had another KP which I made a thread about but no one responded to, no idea what caused it.

There's no way that's a software issue. I'd take that mac to an Apple service.

 

[Kariya]

None of what you listed are instabilities, and Snow Leopard was the OS that increased the amount of shadows/animations on Finder/Desktop considerably so it was the first OS that slowed things down since Apple switched to OS X. Until SL each subsequent OS X release had a faster and more responsive Finder/Desktop than before and then suddenly, that changed. The Finder was now processing much more on each command (due to being rewritten in native Cocoa and tons more stuff being add to it during that process) so everything was slower compared to Leopard. But still, it wasn't unstable in any way. It was just slower.

Shhh

Don't ruin the fairy tale image of their 'perfect' and beloved OS.

 

[JGRE]

Again, are you getting kernel panics all the time? what do you mean by instability? do you actually mean bugs or instability? how about learning the terms before opening your mouth and spouting off half baked rants about nothing. This place used to actually be an enjoyable website to visit to find out the latest rumours but god damn this place is filled with people who can't even get the basics of computer knowledge hammered down.

I don't care whether it is a kernel panic or another bug, this is only intresting to nerds. As an user, I look at whether my Mac is doing what it is supposed to do without any issues.......and this has not been that well after SL. Point is, Apple should focus more on quality than on shine quantity (like facebook intergration and other BS). Just to remeber you, the first 10.8 was just horrible and caused crashes daily. 10.9 is better, but also caused a lot of issues which in the past would never have happend on OSX.

 

[Vladmd23]

macbook pro 15 retina display late 2013 gta 4 problem

Hello guys! I bought an macbook pro retina display late 2013 a few days ago and i'm tried to install grand theft auto 4 ,the game was good i installed the game step by step and i saw on youtube the gta 4 is not working with this version of macbook (retina display 2013 late) maybe i'm wrong but can somebody explain me what;s the problem? please give me a link to download this game for this version of macbook and give me please another link with a tutorial (how to install this game) i use os x mavericks 10.9.4.Thank you!

 

[Vladmd23]

macbook pro 15 retina display late 2013 gta 4 problem

Hello guys! I bought an macbook pro retina display late 2013 a few days ago and i'm tried to install grand theft auto 4 ,the game was good i installed the game step by step and i saw on youtube the gta 4 is not working with this version of macbook (retina display 2013 late) maybe i'm wrong but can somebody explain me what;s the problem? please give me a link to download this game for this version of macbook and give me please another link with a tutorial (how to install this game) i use os x mavericks 10.9.4.Thank you!
And one more question,, the originals games for pc are working with mac?