Apple Seeds Second OS X 10.11.4 El Capitan Beta to Developers

[landi.erik]

Out of curiosity, what would be your advice for people who don't use El Capitan and don't have SIP?

(I disabled SIP approximately 30 seconds after installing)

Well I'd say be aware of what lower level drivers you install on mission critical machines, be sure that any Kexts you use are from reliable sources. And confirm that said Kexts will not cause system instability because of device conflicts.

For instance I installed an older version of a USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet adapter Kext and it would cause my multi monitor setup to lose connectivity after waking from sleep because the Kext interfered with an AMD graphics Kext. kernal panics would also occur because of this incompablity.

Kext Signing was introduced into Mavericks but was easliy bypassed by using a boot flag Kext-dev-mode=1, why Apple changed it is probably due to security. That part of the post was mainly for people to be careful when changing low level security settings.

 

[KdParker]

Even with the latest beta that was released today, don't go to this website [removed] I tried it and the website locks up Safari.

Ref: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...-safari-crashes-device-reboots-on-ios-and-mac

I got to ask...

1) why would you try this at all?
2) why list the website in this forum?

 

[S8ER01Z]

Someone else the same problems...? Wanted to install, but after reading this post I think I wait.

Update... after a few reboots I was good until this morning...I left activity monitor open and it seems distnoted is causing me some issues (using 375% of the cpu). Eventually the process died and the machine was normal again... I would say it's a safe bet that something on my system is to blame (it's used for development so the environment is far from what most people are running) and the build itself is fine.

 

[justperry]

Well I'd say be aware of what lower level drivers you install on mission critical machines, be sure that any Kexts you use are from reliable sources. And confirm that said Kexts will not cause system instability because of device conflicts.

For instance I installed an older version of a USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet adapter Kext and it would cause my multi monitor setup to lose connectivity after waking from sleep because the Kext interfered with an AMD graphics Kext. kernal panics would also occur because of this incompablity.

Kext Signing was introduced into Mavericks but was easliy bypassed by using a boot flag Kext-dev-mode=1, why Apple changed it is probably due to security. That part of the post was mainly for people to be careful when changing low level security settings.

In all the years I use OS X, since the first beta of OS X (10.0b) I have never had any malware on any of my Macs, you are overreacting, OS X is one of the most secure Operating Systems, SIP is rubbish, I switched it of even faster than the person you replied to = less than 30 seconds.
Now, if we talk about windows-that's a complete different story.

 

[landi.erik]

In all the years I use OS X, since the first beta of OS X (10.0b) I have never had any malware on any of my Macs, you are overreacting, OS X is one of the most secure Operating Systems, SIP is rubbish, I switched it of even faster than the person you replied to = less than 30 seconds.
Now, if we talk about windows-that's a complete different story.

I understand that OSX is rock stable, that's why I choose to use the beta's, however I think it's irresponsible to post potentially system crippling instructions without fair warning IMHO. Let's just say I don't want someone to DM me saying "your fix crashed my mac, you did not warn me" at this point most power users understand SIP and what it does but for first time users or people who just want their Mac to work (but don't understand the fixes implemented) should be warned.

I kinda also poked fun at myself in my original post saying sorry for the doomsday talk lol, just want to make sure people understood the potential risks.

 

[deviant]

My original post in the beta thread.

Seems like the bluetooth and 2.4 GHz wifi instability problems have reared their ugly head again also my USB 3.0 to Gigabit ethernet adaptor (using the Asix AX88179 chipset) is now non functional. The kext is not getting loaded on startup and OSX is complaining that it's unsigned, where as on 10.11.3 betas they were working and signature was in good order. I'm guess thats why everyone is having VPN issues because apple messed with kext signing.

Apple has changed the Kext Version signature and as a result Cisco needs to put out a revised lower level driver, if you need Cisco client as a mission critical app NOW you'll need to disable SIP (AKA kext signing\lowlevel driver protection) to get it to work. This method will work and is what I used to get my USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet Hub to work.

http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/05/disable-rootless-system-integrity-protection-mac-os-x/

Please be VERY VERY careful when disabling system integrity protection, drivers that have not been optimized and or containing malicious code will not be filtered out by OSX and your machine will be vulnerable... Sorry for the Doomsday message, but fair warning needs to be given.

Hahaha, how did I survive all those years without Sip. No idea.. Doomsday is coming
Man, please..

 

[kingofkind]

Does anyone know if this has fixed USB microphones? Still having issues with my yeti in 10.11.3

 

[djsound]

I dont see this beta version in Canada.. =/

 

[Stu69]

Update... after a few reboots I was good until this morning...I left activity monitor open and it seems distnoted is causing me some issues (using 375% of the cpu). Eventually the process died and the machine was normal again... I would say it's a safe bet that something on my system is to blame (it's used for development so the environment is far from what most people are running) and the build itself is fine.

[doublepost=1454056459][/doublepost]Exactly the same issue with distnoted for me and I concur, its likely to be an incompatability with one of my apps (I'm suspecting Fantastical 2 as that seems to hang at the same time) testing as I type...

 

[jb-net]

Does it fix Mail.app with multiple Accounts?

 

[allanfries]

Have to wonder how many Macs world wide are using El Capitan now. Really liking this OS so far!

 

[S8ER01Z]

Exactly the same issue with distnoted for me and I concur, its likely to be an incompatability with one of my apps (I'm suspecting Fantastical 2 as that seems to hang at the same time) testing as I type...

I closed out all of my apps and still had trouble. I have no trouble using the system but when I walk away and come back to the machine (locked/network user) I have a beachball and it takes minutes for the spin dump to trigger (if it does). So far the system has been stable only when I disable all notifications in the Notification Center. Hoping the next beta resolved this issue.

 

[green1139]

Hey guys, guess what? The popup for safari on OS X has also been updated!!! Check the image out!