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Apple Seeds Seventh Beta of macOS 14 Sonoma to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available]

Knock-on-wood, I’ve had very good luck with every Sonoma beta on my 16” M1 MacBook Pro. Each has been solid and an improvement over previous betas. Battery life and overall performance and stability has been great. I’m primarily using MS Office, Teams, Slack, iWork, Pixelmator, Affinity Designer, and Parallels with minimal Xcode usage. Parallels 19 (Windows 11 Pro guest OS) has been a pleasant surprise and is absolutely screaming with beta 6 and Stage Maanger is improved.

The two biggest problems I’ve encountered are: (1) Selecting files across multiple apps has been buggy, but the workaround is to use CMD-Tab to switch to a different stage then cycle back to the offending app — this is an annoying recurring bug that has repeated with every beta, but gets fixed with every GM release .. and the workaround works 100% of the time; (2) SoundSource broke with the initial beta but has been updated and working since beta 6. These are annoying, but palatable for me. I’m loving Sonoma.
 
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It's almost September and the only August release was for Ventura... Sonoma is about to be released as non-beta soon... Big Sur may no longer get updates but has Apple stopped supporting Monterey as well?
 
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I still have issues with Music.app since beta 6. Everything is gone... I have the correct Library files (and an old backup), but regardless of which I open, it's completely empty
 
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danbuter said:
OS X used to be stable, before it "needed" to be upgraded every single year. Now, I almost trust Windows 11 more, and that's saying something.
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Have you been actually using Windows 11? I have 2 Windows PCs, 1 with Windows 11, another with Windows 10 and a MacBook. I can say for sure that the MacOS is superior in any way.
 
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Do I still need to install MobileDevice.pkg from the Xcode beta manually to be able to install iOS 17 betas on Sonoma or is it already included when you have also the macOS beta installed?

I am only asking because it is annoying to download and install this huge Xcode app, only to extract a 11 mb file from it on Ventura
 
Every beta has turned "on" WIFI on my Mac Studio Ultra M1 even though I have my Mac Studio connected through Ethernet. I now check my network settings after each new beta and turn WIFI off, since it causes wonky network issues when both Ethernet and WIFI are active.
 
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I've got Sonoma betas running on a 2020 i5 MBP and an M1 MBA and it's been solid for everything I'm doing with those machines.
Not sure if it's just some kind of placebo thing but it also feels a good bit faster on the MBP than Ventura.

The desktop widgets are nice-ish but I'm not sure I'll use them on laptops. It feels a bit too cluttered that way for me. It's nice that it's an option, though.
Likewise, it's nice that "click desktop to hide windows" is an option and not mandatory behavior since I'm using hot corner behavior to reveal the desktop.

The screensaver/wallpaper aerials are neat too. I'm glad to see some non-illustrated wallpapers again.
 
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Pearsey said:
This is running great! (for me)
Definitely more polished than Ventura and you can feel that in the speed.

Safari 🚀

Got an issue on photoshop not showing a save to web preview, but that will be fixed in an update once this is out officially.
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So Safari is only polished or overall performance is better than Ventura?
 
rjw1678 said:
Every beta has turned "on" WIFI on my Mac Studio Ultra M1 even though I have my Mac Studio connected through Ethernet. I now check my network settings after each new beta and turn WIFI off, since it causes wonky network issues when both Ethernet and WIFI are active.
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Is Ethernet set as the primary option in System Settings > Network > … > Set Service Order? Sometimes keeping Wifi on but not connected is nice for handoff related device connectivity.
 
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Oh man, that's tempting...you are voice of BETA DEMON!
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Im a designer so cant afford for my MBP to be out of action or playing up - I'm very wary before I jump in.

So I say all this in honestly and for me on my M1, its been safe, fluid with great performance and faster connectivity too. Wifi just finds the network so much quicker. Battery doesn't seem as good, but we are on a beta, thats to be expected and will sort itself out on the RC.

I wouldn't of jumped in unless it was close to the RC anyway, and a few other friends have given back good reports from beta 6 after the magsafe bug was fixed.

Saying all that, thats just my machine with my set up thats working so well. But its a positive review if your going to jump in. Just do a TimeMachine BackUp first, just incase you need to revert back to Ventura. 👍🏼
 
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danbuter said:
OS X used to be stable, before it "needed" to be upgraded every single year. Now, I almost trust Windows 11 more, and that's saying something.
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Hang on, of course it will need to be upgraded every single year, so it works with the new hardware for one, plus offer more features...

Mac OS and Windows there is no comparison.
Windows out the box is good, then give a few months and its a pile of trash.

It is stable.

Just because you have issues that doesn't mean every single user does. Everyones machines are so uniquely set up effecting them in so many different ways.
 
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Looks like with the latest beta I can no longer mount DMG images, I'm getting a "Permission denied" error. Rebooting and even creating another user account doesn't help.

Am I the only one with this problem?
 
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Looks like with the latest beta I can no longer mount DMG images, I'm getting a "Permission denied" error. Rebooting and even creating another user account doesn't help.

Am I the only one with this problem?
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I had several .dmg files, that mounted OK on my M1 24" iMac . Check to see if the Open with default is DiskImageMounter not something else. Also check ownership permissions with what you are opening.

The DiskImageMounter application that handles this can also mount .ISO, .IMG, .CDR, and other types of image files. Just double-click the file to mount it. If this doesn't work, Option-click or right-click a file, point to "Open With," and select "DiskImageMounter."
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The full installers for these are available now

macOS Sonoma 14.0 beta 7 build 23A5337a

MacOS Ventura 13.6 RC 2 build 22G115

MacOS Monterey 12.7 RC 2 build 21G813

Yesterday only the ipsw file for Sonoma beta 7 was available

There doesn't seem to be a Big Sur beta

To see the links for the InstallAssistant.pkg's you can run these in Terminal:

From the Sonoma sucatalog:

Code: 
for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-14seed-14-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

From the Ventura sucatalog:

Code: 
for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-13seed-13-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done

From the Monterey sucatalog:

Code: 
for file in $(curl -# https://swscan.apple.com/content/catalogs/others/index-12seed-12-10.16-10.15-10.14-10.13-10.12-10.11-10.10-10.9-mountainlion-lion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog | grep Info.plist | grep -Evw '(Info.plist.integrityDataV1|InstallInfo.plist)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g); do
    curl -# $file | egrep -EA 1 '(>Build<|OSVersion)' | sed -e s/"<string>"//g -e s/"<\/string>"//g -e s/\ //g | sed -e s/"<key>"//g -e s/"<\/key>"//g -e s/\ //g
    echo $file | sed -e "s/Info.plist/InstallAssistant.pkg/g"
done
 
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I like the beta, but this morning, for some reason, I am no longer able to access the files on one of my external SSDs. Im using my wife's computer to get the files and airdrop them over, but this is problematic.
 
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