What is there in High Sierra that makes it worth upgrading for (new file system notwithstanding)? I have a mid-2101 Mac Pro that runs fine in Sierra and so I've just left well alone. I fear HS will just mess it up and make some old programs obsolete... But then I do also feel I'll have to make the jump at some point..
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Apple Seeds Sixth Beta of macOS High Sierra 10.13.3 to Developers and Public Beta Testers [Updated]
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I see no good reason to upgrade to HS. There is nothing in it that I needed. My nMP has an SSD and HS formatting it in APFS has done nothing that I can see to speed up anything. Keep in mind that I don't do any heavy lifting beyond minor photo editing in photos.app and word processing.
I uses to be a first day adopter for MacOS but not any longer.
‘It's not yet clear what improvements the macOS High Sierra 10.13.3 update will bring, but it's likely to include bug fixes and performance improvements for issues that weren't addressed in macOS High Sierra 10.13.2.’
No, really? Makes me wonder what 10.13.4 will bring.
No, really? Makes me wonder what 10.13.4 will bring.
It sounds hilarious to me. Honest-to-God, I find it laughable the way people try to shift blame to Apple for losing data on their only Mac after running beta software.
"It never used to be this way." "Tim doesn't 'X' like Steve Jobs did." "It's the new Apple." Blah, blah, blah...
We used to get Alphas every night and Betas multiple times per week back in the day, and they were much, much buggier than these betas. Of course nobody knew about them, but they still complained about the final releases... claiming Apple didn't test their software like they used to. I can remember this back to the pre Mac OS 7 days when I started beta testing for them. Back then you absolutely had to have a second Mac to test on.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, and that's quite clear.
I think most of the screwups with HS are caused by 3th party hardware/software that hasn't been updated yet, or other freaky experiments with HS.
If you're an average Mac user and not doing any fancy stuff on it , and most of us are in that category, HS is a pretty flawless OS.
Not 100% flawless, personally i think that's merely impossible, but it works for most users.
Of course erverybody has his or hers favourite OSX version because it worked o.k. for them.
But you just can't run an old OSX forever, it has to stop somewhere because support runs out.
That's why these Beta's and error reporting are so important.
If you don't report error to Apple, Apple can't fix them.
And i know that most of the Mac users are as impatient as heck when it comes to reporting errors and waiting for fixes, and think that the softwaredevs. at Apple are sitting on their hands doing nothing
But i'm sure thats not the case.
If you reported a problem today you wanted it fixed yesterday, and that's impossible.
You have to make sure that when you fix one problem you're not creating another one on the go.
I'm a former ZX Spectrum user myself and i know what can happen if you mistype a comma in a line of code.
If you're an average Mac user and not doing any fancy stuff on it , and most of us are in that category, HS is a pretty flawless OS.
Not 100% flawless, personally i think that's merely impossible, but it works for most users.
Of course erverybody has his or hers favourite OSX version because it worked o.k. for them.
But you just can't run an old OSX forever, it has to stop somewhere because support runs out.
That's why these Beta's and error reporting are so important.
If you don't report error to Apple, Apple can't fix them.
And i know that most of the Mac users are as impatient as heck when it comes to reporting errors and waiting for fixes, and think that the softwaredevs. at Apple are sitting on their hands doing nothing
But i'm sure thats not the case.
If you reported a problem today you wanted it fixed yesterday, and that's impossible.
You have to make sure that when you fix one problem you're not creating another one on the go.
I'm a former ZX Spectrum user myself and i know what can happen if you mistype a comma in a line of code.
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Yes, six versions of the same BETA are beyond ridiculous. It's like they have no clue what they're doing as far as fixes, let alone thinking about improvements.
Don't install them. Wait for stable releases. Or even stay one OS behind.
My strategy most of the time is waiting for the GM to be released.
When te GM comes out you know that most of the glitches are ironed out.
Im keeping my fingers from Beta's as far as i possible can, or it must provide a fix for a problem i encountered.
That's the only reason for me to install a Beta release.
The only thing in there that gives any indication of an issues is the “new update not compatible with older version” line. If I had to guess, I’d guess that the update installed partially, but not fully, and can’t boot as a result.
Have you tried internet recovery (command + option + R at boot)?
Have you tried visiting an Apple store and asking them to do a full erase and install?
Have you tried booting from a known good boot drive? - you could use a bootable external if you have one, or another machine in target disk mode.
Thanks for responding
To clarify some posters in here I did not update with this beta version - I was referencing the last public version that bricked my Mac and grumbling about it. I guess I shouldn’t have posted in this thread.
Nearest Mac store is 3 hours away. I haven’t tried boot off external yet. None of my friends own Macs to download the installer (should I try High Sierra or downgrade to Sierra) time machine loads but gives me grey screen too.
There is a Apple certified repair store in my small town - my last resort I guess.
My biggest fear is the thousands of photos on my Mac backed up on iCloud. But if I wipe that drive, I lose my iCloud connection and photos too?
If your photos are on iCloud via iCloud Photo Library then they are safe regardless of anything that would happen to your Mac or it’s drives.
I suggest you try booting to internet recovery (hold command+option+r). This will boot your Mac to a recovery partition that is downloaded from Apple servers rather than the one that is locally available on your Mac. If internet recovery does not successfully get you booted up, it is likely at that point that you have a firmware issue or a hardware issue - if that’s the case you will certainly need Apple or an authorized service center to get you back up. The chances of your Mac being permanently broken, especially as the result of a software update, is next to zero. PM me if you want any more help.
My old 15" MacBook Pro was dwelling in the "Grey Screen of Death" realm for weeks and suddenly I discovered Apple had a "recall" on my old, out of warranty, Mac to replace the Video Board. I took it to Apple GENIOUS and 3 days later I had a working Mac again. For free.
The hard drive blew out 2 years later and I had the drive replace by a Solid State Drive. ($400) WOW! You would not believe how fast this old Mac is right now. It operates the same as my rebuilt MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015 Cost $2000) machine I just bought to replace my old Mac. (now I have two. LOL)