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Apple Seeds Third Beta of iOS 12.3 With New TV App to Developers

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Apple today seeded the third beta of an upcoming iOS 12.3 update to developers, two weeks after releasing the second beta and a month after the launch of iOS 12.2, an update that introduced Apple News+, new Animoji, and more.

Registered developers can download the new iOS 12.3 beta from Apple's Developer Center or over-the-air once the proper configuration profile has been installed from the Developer Center.


iOS 12.3 and tvOS 12.3 introduce a new version of Apple's TV app, which has been updated with a new look and fresh functionality.

In the new TV app, "Watch Now" and "Up Next" are still front and center for keeping track of what you're watching, but there's a new machine learning-based recommendation engine that will suggest content based on your viewing preferences and history.

The app's interface has been streamlined with sections for movies, TV shows, sports, and kids content, and on iOS, there's a separate bottom bar for the library, search, and Watch Now options.


There's a new "Channels" feature in the TV app, which is one of the major new components of Apple's services push. Channels are subscription services that you can sign up for and watch within the TV app without having to open up another app.

So, for example, if you come across a show you want to watch on your iPhone or Apple TV that's on Showtime, you can tap to subscribe to Showtime right in the TV app, and then you can watch that show without leaving the app.

Some of the new Channels that will be supported include CBS All Access, Starz, Showtime, HBO, Nickelodeon, Mubi, The History Channel Vault, and Comedy Central Now. During the beta, though, users can subscribe to Showtime, Starz, Smithsonian, EPIX, and Tastemade.


You'll still get recommendations for content from services that aren't a part of Channels, you'll just need to watch non-channel content in a third-party app. The TV app also houses iTunes TV shows and movies.

When Apple debuts its Apple TV+ service this fall, all of the company's original TV shows and movies will also be accessible in the TV app. iOS 12.3 will be in beta testing for the next few weeks ahead of a May launch, the month when Apple said the new TV app will be released.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Third Beta of iOS 12.3 With New TV App to Developers
 

lucasrant

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Are all international markets seeing the new tv app considering its going to replace the 'Videos' app?
I know I’m seeing it in my Apple TV but not on my iPad. Both running the 12.3 betas.
 

bluespider

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not a fan of the limited sort function for my purchased movies. would like to see the sorted in order of date purchased too... other than that seems pretty nice, but takes some getting used to.

I'm really waiting to see this app on the Mojave OS.
 

d21mike

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Apple makes no money if they include live TV with this, so NO, they won't even though I would love that too.
1. If they include Live TV via something like HDHomeRun they would drive more people to the APP. Once people use the APP they might just subscribe to other content which Apple will make money.
2. They could charge a small subscription amount for Guide Data. But #1 is a much better option.

However, Apple would probably screw it up anyway and no one would use it. I am not a fan of the current efforts with the Apple TV App.
 

rjohnstone

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Beta 2 was one of the worst betas in a while, hopefully they compiled this one better.
Agreed... I had a few bugs that I submitted.
Screen lag. Sometimes unresponsive on input. Wifi had issues with signal acquisition.

I see they updated the Modem firmware and carrier settings in Beta 3.
 

mattopotamus

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It would be nice to have live tv channels as well.

Amazon does this if you subscribe to your channels through them. You get better audio/video quality watching the on-demand streams. For example, Game of Thrones is only in stereo on the live channel, but the on-demand version is 5.1.

I tested that last week just to see the difference.
 
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JosephAW

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I wonder when we will see the message that all future iOS 12 updates are no longer available for iPhone 5S, 6, 7 and SE devices. Sometime soon they will need to throw them under the bus.
 
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nutmac

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I wonder when we will see the message that all future iOS 12 updates are no longer available for iPhone 5S, 6, 7 and SE devices. Sometime soon they will need to throw them under the bus.
A minor version update (e.g., 12.1, 12.2) is not supposed to break compatibility.

Update that may affect compatibility, either hardware or API for 3rd party apps is reserved for major version update (e.g., 13).
 

alecc131

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One change in the TV app (... I think it's a bug).

In the Sports tab, tapping any of the events on the top, opens the corresponding app (e.g. Spectrum, DTV Now)... Even though the event does not start for several hours.

When 3D touching these events, to add to up next. The UI for Share and Add To Up Next does not display. Instead, a blank template is displayed. This must be a bug.

Also, another change.
Tapping any currently "live" sports event, opens the app with the live event, rather than the page for the event in the TV app. This is a change from prior versions, where the page would first open in the TV app for the event, rather than directing straight to the event.
 

MallardDuck

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Please, please, please, let me disable all the streaming crap and have the app default to the content I've downloaded to the device.

Not everyone watches content online, and the constant push to streaming is beyond annoying!
 
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C DM

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I wonder when we will see the message that all future iOS 12 updates are no longer available for iPhone 5S, 6, 7 and SE devices. Sometime soon they will need to throw them under the bus.
Support can get dropped with major new versions (as in iOS 13 for example when it comes out), but it basically doesn't get dropped within a version.
 
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dfwiddoc

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I wonder when we will see the message that all future iOS 12 updates are no longer available for iPhone 5S, 6, 7 and SE devices. Sometime soon they will need to throw them under the bus.

Well, the 5s is six years old now. With each new version of the operating system, we have a choice to either demand that Apple add longevity to older devices, or stay ahead of industry and consumer demands for a more sophisticated, novel, fast, and stable platform—one that must be optimized for higher storage demands, more advanced features and ergonomics, faster wireless and mobile communication standards, more powerful chipsets, higher resolution video and audio hardware, on and on.

The expectations of consumers these days for what their mobile devices can accomplish has flown way past what they expect from their desktops or laptops—they want to carry their whole office, home, theater, television, shopping mall, phone, and gaming universe in their pocket, and they want it to be indestructible, waterproof, sexy, universally-compatible and Geekbench/Speedtest approved as well.

The only way Apple (and Google and Microsoft as well) could make everyone happy would be to maintain about four different iOS versions with varying compatibilities constantly updated, and people complain about how long it takes for a single update to roll out as it is. Personally, I think Apple does a pretty good job at juggling all these impatient and demanding mobs at it is, and I’d prefer they keep their emphasis on the future over supporting obsolete devices.
 

GregJohn

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I personally hope they do drop everything be;ow the at least iPhone 7 for iOS 13. Focus on moving forward and not support phones from 2011. It’s great they have supported old devices (and even if they drop everything below 7 they still would be supporting more generations than any company) but it’s time to move forward and they need to make an iOS for the newer phones and not spend time on watered down versions for phones that came out 8 years ago.

I haven’t noticed anything new in beta 3, hopefully some of the weird freezes on iPad are fixed..

Palm rejection seems broken again
 

nutmac

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I personally hope they do drop everything be;ow the at least iPhone 7 for iOS 13. Focus on moving forward and not support phones from 2011. It’s great they have supported old devices (and even if they drop everything below 7 they still would be supporting more generations than any company) but it’s time to move forward and they need to make an iOS for the newer phones and not spend time on watered down versions for phones that came out 8 years ago.
As a developer, I would love to stop designing apps for 4" retina screen. But I doubt iOS 13 would drop support for 3 generations of iPhone (iPhone 5S, iPhone 6, iPhone 6S/SE).

Oldest iPhone supported by each major iOS release:
  • iPhone OS 1 (iPhone): iPhone (Samsung ARM 1176JZ, 3.5")
  • iPhone OS 2 (iPhone 3G): iPhone (Samsung ARM 1176JZ, 3.5")
  • iPhone OS 3 (iPhone 3GS): iPhone (Samsung ARM 1176JZ, 3.5")
  • iOS 4 (iPhone 4): iPhone 3G (Samsung ARM 1176JZ, 3.5")
  • iOS 5 (iPhone 4S): iPhone 3GS (ARM Cortex A8, 3.5")
  • iOS 6 (iPhone 5): iPhone 3GS (ARM Cortex A8, 3.5")
  • iOS 7 (iPhone 5S): iPhone 4 (Apple A4, 3.5" retina)
  • iOS 8 (iPhone 6): iPhone 4S (Apple A5, 3.5" retina)
  • iOS 9 (iPhone 6S/SE): iPhone 4S (Apple A5, 3.5" retina)
  • iOS 10 (iPhone 7): iPhone 5 (Apple A6, 4" retina)
  • iOS 11 (iPhone 8/X): iPhone 5S (Apple A7, 4" retina)
  • iOS 12 (iPhone XS/XR): iPhone 5S (Apple A7, 4" retina)
Or if you look at how long each generation of phones are supported with major iOS updates:
  • iPhone: 3 releases
  • iPhone 3G: 3 releases
  • iPhone 3GS: 4 releases
  • iPhone 4: 4 releases
  • iPhone 4S: 5 releases
  • iPhone 5: 5 releases
  • iPhone 5S: 6 releases
If I were to venture a guess, the most aggressive would be:
  • iOS 13: iPhone 6 (Apple A8, 4.7" retina)
  • iOS 14: iPhone 6S (Apple A9, 4.7" retina), iPhone SE (A9, 4" retina)
  • iOS 15: iPhone 7 (Apple A10, 4.7" retina)
That would make it:
  • iPhone 6: 6 releases
  • iPhone 6S/SE: 6 releases
 
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Lozza013

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I wonder when we will see the message that all future iOS 12 updates are no longer available for iPhone 5S, 6, 7 and SE devices. Sometime soon they will need to throw them under the bus.
I can see the 5S and maybe although highly unlikely the 6 to drop support this year but the 6S,7 and SE? Nah they will be supported for a little while longer.
 
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