I mean builtin drivers, not web drivers from Nvidia.
Well, I live in my own apartment with my family and even if I wanted to live in my parent's basement - i couldn't. We don't have such things here where I live. But I'm glad you let off some steam. I guess .. just a bad day?
It isn't that, and if you care to read my following reply you will understand why.
This forum is literally just for this. Expressing yourself. If you want your own forum with your own rules - create one and leave me out of it.
What products and developments? Yosemite has been a complete MESS. With OR without updates. It's pointless trying to heal it. It's dead. I highly doubt 10.10.5 will resolve your 10.10.4 issues.
It is not going to be riddled with bugs, and the "as has always been the case" shows that you haven't even tried it. El Capitan is SO MUCH better than Yosemite. Yes, the Beta is better than the "stable" Yosemite. AT least on my three totally different macs. If you'd wait at least one update from El Capitan you're doing it wrong. Really, it's already better than Yosemite.
Any way. What I meant by saying "why bother with Yosemite" was just really an observation regarding the fact that there are a lot man-hours still spent on Yosemite (which is usable and i hardly believe will become better than it already is) rather than just leaving it at that (it works, it's not BETA, so all you professionals can't complain) and just concentrate on El Capitan, because in my opinion it is very good (which is a good sign, considering it's only august).
That's all. I didnt say "HEY Y'ALL, YOU SHOULD ALL INSTALL EL CAPITAN BETA. YOU, YES, YOU, A CORPORATION HOSTING 500 MACS, INSTALL IT IMMEDIATELY"
So don't need to jump on me. Even if you disagree with me.Have a nice day.
If you think my reply is rude, please take a look at the one above mine. I tried to be as honest as possible, because 10.11 is still a beta and as such is not for everyone.
Seems pointless. Even at this early Beta stage, El Cap blows Yosemite out of the water regarding performance. Yosemite is a bloated, laggy OS and the sooner it's put out to pasture the better.
I wasn't really referring to your post, more the first quoted reply that called him a basement kid or whatever just for his opinion.
Although all of the replies were a bit reactionary for something so insignificant. I think he was trying to get more at the fact El Capitan will be out within the next month or two and Apple may as well be focusing on refining that to be better than 10.10.5.
Have you ever worked for a major (or even smaller) corporation?
It's like some people think everyone should be using nothing but El Capitan betas, and support for Yosemite should be dropped.
Lol I've tried El capitan it froze on with several applications and Spotlight kept quitting and trying to open again... More stable than Yosemite? Hell noWell, I live in my own apartment with my family and even if I wanted to live in my parent's basement - i couldn't. We don't have such things here where I live. But I'm glad you let off some steam. I guess .. just a bad day?
It isn't that, and if you care to read my following reply you will understand why.
This forum is literally just for this. Expressing yourself. If you want your own forum with your own rules - create one and leave me out of it.
What products and developments? Yosemite has been a complete MESS. With OR without updates. It's pointless trying to heal it. It's dead. I highly doubt 10.10.5 will resolve your 10.10.4 issues.
It is not going to be riddled with bugs, and the "as has always been the case" shows that you haven't even tried it. El Capitan is SO MUCH better than Yosemite. Yes, the Beta is better than the "stable" Yosemite. AT least on my three totally different macs. If you'd wait at least one update from El Capitan you're doing it wrong. Really, it's already better than Yosemite.
Any way. What I meant by saying "why bother with Yosemite" was just really an observation regarding the fact that there are a lot man-hours still spent on Yosemite (which is usable and i hardly believe will become better than it already is) rather than just leaving it at that (it works, it's not BETA, so all you professionals can't complain) and just concentrate on El Capitan, because in my opinion it is very good (which is a good sign, considering it's only august).
That's all. I didnt say "HEY Y'ALL, YOU SHOULD ALL INSTALL EL CAPITAN BETA. YOU, YES, YOU, A CORPORATION HOSTING 500 MACS, INSTALL IT IMMEDIATELY"
So don't need to jump on me. Even if you disagree with me.Have a nice day.
I don't know if it's Metal or not, but animations are smooth even on my 2007 iMac. Mission Control was HELL on yosemite on this iMac. Now it's smooth as it was with mavericks. I'm a happy camper (especially considering they still support a 2007 computer).Lol I've tried El capitan it froze on with several applications and Spotlight kept quitting and trying to open again... More stable than Yosemite? Hell no
Faster in some areas? Yes, Metal has made some much needed improvements in graphics rendering
Well it's Metal, Apple have said a lot of things have been recoded in it to render faster.I don't know if it's Metal or not, but animations are smooth even on my 2007 iMac. Mission Control was HELL on yosemite on this iMac. Now it's smooth as it was with mavericks. I'm a happy camper (especially considering they still support a 2007 computer).
Sorry to hear about your problems, my computers have been smooth, especially in the core system aspect. Settings app crashed just right after the install (never happened again) and the screen was black after waking up from sleep, but a simple SMC reset resolved the issue. (Only on iMac)
I don't have any battery drainage issues with my 2015 MBPr since upgrading to 10.10.4, I'd assume your laptop is getting older and the batteries don't hold as long, not necessarily an OS issue.Is the battery drainage issue resolved in 10.10.5? In 10.10.4, battery can drain by 7 to 10 percent in sleep mode overnight. On the whole, however, I have never had any major issues with Yosemite, coming from Mountain Lion.
I don't know if it's Metal or not, but animations are smooth even on my 2007 iMac.
We're off topic for this thread, but whatever performance improvements you see in a 2007 iMac aren't due to Metal as it only works in 2012 and newer Macs.Well it's Metal, Apple have said a lot of things have been recoded in it to render faster.
Apple says that, you never know how or what they've changed exactly though.We're off topic for this thread, but whatever performance improvements you see in a 2007 iMac aren't due to Metal as it only works in 2012 and newer Macs.
It's ironic that now that Yosemite is finally smooth and relatively bug free, here comes El Cap with a good deal of to be expected bugs. Not sure that is really going to be progress. Seems like they have to break things in order to move forward all the time. Don't quite get why...
We still have lagging with graphics in some areas on Yosemite which will be addressed in El Cap, but El Cap is going to have better testing I'm assuming compared to Yosemite which did not receive as much.It's ironic that now that Yosemite is finally smooth and relatively bug free, here comes El Cap with a good deal of to be expected bugs. Not sure that is really going to be progress. Seems like they have to break things in order to move forward all the time. Don't quite get why...
No, it's well documented. Old GPUs simply can't use Metal.Apple says that, you never know how or what they've changed exactly though.
why even bother with it. el capitan is like snow leopard to yosemite. it runs on every yosemite-compatible mac.. yosemite is Lion of this generation, lol.
It's ironic that now that Yosemite is finally smooth and relatively bug free, here comes El Cap with a good deal of to be expected bugs. Not sure that is really going to be progress. Seems like they have to break things in order to move forward all the time. Don't quite get why...