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Apple today seeded the third beta of an upcoming macOS Sonoma 14.4 update to public beta testers, allowing non-developers to test the software ahead of its launch. The third public beta comes a week after Apple released the second public beta.

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Beta testers can opt-in through the Software Update section of the System Settings app. Under Beta updates, simply toggle on the Sonoma Public Beta. Note that you must sign up to participate on Apple's beta testing website.

macOS Sonoma 14.4 introduces some of the features in the iOS 17.4 beta, such as new emoji characters. We don't know what Mac-specific features are included, but nothing new has been found in the developer betas so far.

Article Link: Apple Seeds Third Public Beta of macOS Sonoma 14.4
 

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The third beta is the charm as they say. Running solidly.

Related yesterday to devs, today to PB testers
  • iOS 17.4 beta 3 (21E5200d) - February 13, 2024
  • iPadOS 17.4 beta 3 (21E5200d) - February 13, 2024
  • macOS 14.4 beta 3 (23E5196e) - February 13, 2024
  • tvOS 17.4 beta 3 (21L5212d) - February 13, 2024
  • visionOS 1.1 beta 2 (21O5188c) - February 13, 2024
  • watchOS 10.4 beta 3 (21T5202e) - February 13, 2024

AppKit

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed an issue where center or right aligned NSTextField appears blurry. (120819010)
  • Fixed: Resolves an issue where pointer style does not update when browsing in Safari. (121131986)

Core ML

New Features

  • ML Program models that are loaded with MLComputeUnits.cpuOnly will use a new high performance CPU backend that takes advantage of Accelerate framework’s BNNS library. (114037934)

CreateML

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: When using the transfer learning algorithm option, the CreateML app and framework object detection template might fail to converge and cause poor model quality and produce more than expected false positives. (114480994)

Finder

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Resolves an issue where tiling a window causes the desktop picture to turn black. (118044617)

Messages

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Stickers (Memoji and 3rd party) might appear blank. (120994483)

Passkeys

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Registering passkeys might not work on certain websites. (122217903)

Software Updates

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: Updates to macOS 14.4 starting from macOS 11.0–12.3.1 will not work. (120548971)

StoreKit

New Features

  • productDescriptionHidden(_:) API can be used to configure the visibility of product descriptions in ProductView, StoreView and SubscriptionStoreView instances within a view hierarchy. When building with Xcode 15.3, the view modifier can be used even if your app is running on iOS 17.0, iPadOS 17.0, macOS 14.0, tvOS 17.0, watchOS 10.0, visionOS 1.0, or later.
    When implementing a product view style, it can support this new view modifier by checking the descriptionVisibility property on the configuration value. (110414819) (FB12261973)
  • You can use SubscriptionStoreView to present promotional offers by adding the subscriptionPromotionalOffer(offer:signature:) modifier.
    If you’re already using inAppPurchaseOptions(_:) modifier to support promotional offers for StoreKit views, you should adopt the new API instead when your app is running on iOS 17.4, iPadOS 17.4, macOS 14.4, tvOS 17.4, watchOS 10.4, visionOS 1.1 or later. Do not use both APIs to apply a promotional offer for the same view. (115358806)

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: The isEligibleForIntroOffer property and isEligibleForIntroOffer(for:)method now reflect ineligibility in cases where a customer would otherwise be eligible for the offer if they weren’t actively subscribed. This means a customer which is not currently eligible for an introductory offer may become eligible in the future.
    Customers who redeem an introductory offer for a given subscription group will continue to never be eligible for another introductory offer in that subscription group. You can detect this case this by checking if any one transaction with a matching subscriptionGroupID has the type property on offer set to introductory. (103604770) (FB11889732)

SwiftUI

New Features

  • Table now supports dynamic numbers of columns with the new TableColumnForEach. (79492167) (FB9189673)

Resolved Issues

  • Fixed: DatePicker in macOS reset focus to the first date component when its bound date changes and timeZone is overriden in the environment. (97376561)
 

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Reposted from dev thread

Comparison of 14.4 beta 3 to previous 14.4 beta 2

macOS 14.4 beta 3 (23E5196e)
  • Safari Version 17.4 (19618.1.14.11.2)
  • System Firmware Version: 10151.100.756 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 23.4.0: Wed Feb 7 23:13:07 PST 2024; root:xnu-10063.100.637.501.2~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T6000 arm64
macOS 14.4 beta 2 (23E5191e)
  • Safari Version 17.4 (19618.1.13.11.5)
  • System Firmware Version: 10151.100.753 (M1 based Macs)
  • Darwin Kernel Version 23.4.0: Sat Jan 27 14:22:59 PST 2024; root:xnu-10063.100.633~14/RELEASE_ARM64_T8103 arm64
* Apple Music/TV now 1.4.4.44 was 1.4.4.38

7 days later then 2nd beta
 

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I really hope I get another OS update on my Intel Mac.... Sonoma has been running absolutely brilliantly on it... and it's a base 2020 Mac Mini (i3)!

Whatever they have been doing they have ensured it runs really well on the more recent intel hardware prior to Apple Silicon.
 

Darren.h

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Is Anyone got any inside info on MacOs 15? Pretty sure it will be Apple Silicon Only.

Bored of macOS in its current form. And when I ditch Intel Macs for Apple Silicon I want to know where Apple is headed with macOS . Could be changes none of us like.

On A Windows machine you can Stay on Windows 10 or 11 if Windows 12 gets kinda scary.

Sonoma is pretty much fully baked. no new things on the horizon.

The New Windows 11 24H2 will not run now on Machines older than 10 years old. even with hacks.

And you can easily upgrade your motherboard to get the new Thunderbolt 5 and WIFI 7.
 

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Is Anyone got any inside info on MacOs 15? Pretty sure it will be Apple Silicon Only.

Bored of macOS in its current form. And when I ditch Intel Macs for Apple Silicon I want to know where Apple is headed with macOS . Could be changes none of us like.

On A Windows machine you can Stay on Windows 10 or 11 if Windows 12 gets kinda scary.

Sonoma is pretty much fully baked. no new things on the horizon.

The New Windows 11 24H2 will not run now on Machines older than 10 years old. even with hacks.

And you can easily upgrade your motherboard to get the new Thunderbolt 5 and WIFI 7.
There really doesn't need to be any immediate abandonment of supporting intel Macs. Apple like Next Computer has always had its NextStep-> MacOS X -> MacOS running on multiple platforms in the lab for as long as we can remember.
 
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There really doesn't need to be any immediate abandonment of supporting intel Macs. Apple like Next Computer has always had its NextStep-> MacOS X -> MacOS running on multiple platforms in the lab for as long as we can remember.
well I am ready. my 2019 iMac i9 27 inch has gotten super slow. even with 72 GB of Ram. The Fusion Drive is a slow piece of junk but I dont wanna dump any more money in this iMac. The video card has the usual heat damage.
 

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I really hope I get another OS update on my Intel Mac.... Sonoma has been running absolutely brilliantly on it... and it's a base 2020 Mac Mini (i3)!

Whatever they have been doing they have ensured it runs really well on the more recent intel hardware prior to Apple Silicon.
you may have purchased your intel based Mac mini in 2020, but it is not a 2020 model. Rather if it was purchased new at that time it would be a 2018 model and might get one more macOS release before its made obsolete to future updates- thats based on the progression so far with macOS releases since M1 came out and intel support but is obviously no guarantee.

/g
 

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you may have purchased your intel based Mac mini in 2020, but it is not a 2020 model. Rather if it was purchased new at that time it would be a 2018 model and might get one more macOS release before its made obsolete to future updates- thats based on the progression so far with macOS releases since M1 came out and intel support but is obviously no guarantee.

/g
I didn't say it was a 2018 'model'. I stated it was a 2020 Mac mini, which happened to be the base model that was available in early 2020. The 2018 Mac mini models had a minor refresh at that time and they were given a storage size bump from 128 to 256 GB. More correctly it is a 2020 revision of the 2018 model.

You seem to take pleasure in stating it being made obsolete? Its hardware won't be made obsolete until sometime November 2025, as that would be 5 years since its last retail sale in the relevant region. Apple don't obsolete the hardware for software updates... they just announce which hardware is supported at, or soon after, announcing the next version of Mac OS. They still push out critical updates for older versions of iOS/Mac OS etc... they are still supported.
 
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I didn't say it was a 2018 'model'. I stated it was a 2020 Mac mini, which happened to be the base model that was available in early 2020. The 2018 Mac mini models had a minor refresh at that time and they were given a storage size bump from 128 to 256 GB. More correctly it is a 2020 revision of the 2018 model.

You seem to take pleasure in stating it being made obsolete? Its hardware won't be made obsolete until sometime November 2025, as that would be 5 years since its last retail sale in the relevant region. Apple don't obsolete the hardware for software updates... they just announce which hardware is supported at, or soon after, announcing the next version of Mac OS. They still push out critical updates for older versions of iOS/Mac OS etc... they are still supported.
@genzai is right. What you have is a "2018 Mac mini" and you called it a "2020 Mac mini". NOBODY uses your naming convention. If you want to do it your way, the least acceptable answer would be "2018-2020 Mac mini"
 
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Fuzzball84

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Is Anyone got any inside info on MacOs 15? Pretty sure it will be Apple Silicon Only.

Bored of macOS in its current form. And when I ditch Intel Macs for Apple Silicon I want to know where Apple is headed with macOS . Could be changes none of us like.

On A Windows machine you can Stay on Windows 10 or 11 if Windows 12 gets kinda scary.

Sonoma is pretty much fully baked. no new things on the horizon.

The New Windows 11 24H2 will not run now on Machines older than 10 years old. even with hacks.

And you can easily upgrade your motherboard to get the new Thunderbolt 5 and WIFI 7.
Apple were still selling Intel Macs quite recently... and expensive ones at that. The Mac Pro (intel) was discontinued in June 2023... I really doubt they would make the 2024 major update to Mac OS Apple Silicon only...

As has already been noted on this thread.. Apple have history and expertise in porting to multiple architectures and I think it would be a huge slap in the face to anyone who bought those expensive Mac Pros late in the cycle to suddenly find they are not supported by Apples OS after roughly one year. I mean I think from a business perspective it would be wise to provide those customers updates until their Apple Care expires... I think that would be the minimum...
 

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@genzai is right. What you have is a "2018 Mac mini" and you called it a "2020 Mac mini". NOBODY uses your naming convention. If you want to do it your way, the least acceptable answer would be "2018-2020 Mac mini"
So you're arguing when I said more correctly that it's a '2020 revision of the 2018 model'?

This is hilarious... I mean I don't mind what you call it personally but my Mac mini is a 2020 Mac mini... that was most likely manufactured in late 2019... and it has the model identifier of 2018 Mac mini.

I mean, its possible I have a 2018 Mac mini, if it was hanging around in a warehouse etc..

But I know for certain I have a 2020 revision (early march) Mac mini (2018) Machine Model Macmini8,1.

"least acceptable answer'.... this is quite funny 😂

All in all I think most people will be happy that Intel Macs continue to be supported... more security for the users and more environmentally friendly than dumping hardware just because its no longer the architecture of choice of said company. My Apple Silicon and Intel Macs live side by side.
 
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So what
So you're arguing when I said more correctly that it's a '2020 revision of the 2018 model'?

This is hilarious... I mean I don't mind what you call it personally but my Mac mini is a 2020 Mac mini... that was most likely manufactured in late 2019... and it has the model identifier of 2018 Mac mini.

I mean, its possible I have a 2018 Mac mini, if it was hanging around in a warehouse etc..

But I know for certain I have a 2020 revision (early march) Mac mini (2018) Machine Model Macmini8,1.

"least acceptable answer'.... this is quite funny 😂
So what year does it say when you pop open "About This Mac"?
 

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So what

So what year does it say when you pop open "About This Mac"?
I think the answer is in my post 40 minutes ago or so... I don't see what this issue you have has to do with the latest public beta of Mac OS Sonoma.
 

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This is a long shot, but does anybody have this installed who owns a Sony a7cii camera? It came out last summer and macOS still doesn't support raw files from it.
Might be worth posting in the general forums under its own thread if it affects several models... you might be lucky but there might not be many reading this thread who have that camera.
 

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@Fuzzball84 don't get mad at us because you basically own a doorstop and want to feel good about yourself and call it a "2020 Mac mini"

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I think you just highlighted what you're really trying to do here... there are people testing Mac OS Sonoma who want to ensure the best experience possible for themselves and others who own both intel and Apple silicon Macs (I also have intel and apple silicon Macs).

Humor and banter is allowed on here.. but people like yourself who appear more concerned with other activities that you'd usually find in the playground.

Going around calling peoples perfectly functional hardware doorstops will not get you many friends in the adult world.

You do realise there are active threads on here for vintage Macs etc?? People who are proud of keeping their old Macs running etc
 

stonerdt

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Just downloaded this Beta. Strange error. If I try to open a New Tab in Safari with a PDF link, it comes back with a gray screen. If I just paste the URL into a new tab, it renders fine.
Try this URL: https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-publication-550
If you click on the Publication 550 (PDF) to replace the current page, it works fine. But open in a new tab and it comes out gray.
Any solutions?
 

Realityck

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Just downloaded this Beta. Strange error. If I try to open a New Tab in Safari with a PDF link, it comes back with a gray screen. If I just paste the URL into a new tab, it renders fine.
Try this URL: https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-publication-550
If you click on the Publication 550 (PDF) to replace the current page, it works fine. But open in a new tab and it comes out gray.
Any solutions?
It worked for me, both ways. I was using browser in private window mode. So opening it with private tab or new private window both worked. Maybe what you should do is empty caches under Develop menu. This is with M1 Mac using 17.4 Version 17.4 (19618.1.14.11.2)
 

stonerdt

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It worked for me, both ways. I was using browser in private window mode. So opening it with private tab or new private window both worked. Maybe what you should do is empty caches under Develop menu. This is with M1 Mac using 17.4 Version 17.4 (19618.1.14.11.2)
Still a problem even after clearing out the cache. PDF's in Safari can still be grayed out and it is like they just aren't loading. The attached shows what I get.
 

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