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Apple Seeking to License AirPlay for Video Streaming?

marksman said:
This trend on these forums of people making posts without apparently reading the original post or any other posts in the thread before making a post is getting a little annoying.

Which of those things allows you to stream video and audio from an IOS device?
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If iOS supported DLNA you would be able to do this without any new standard, there is no need for a new apple developed standard for this, I can stream video from my android phone to my TV, Bluray and PVR already. This is something devices have been able to do before Airplay came along.

It's not hat these devices need a new standard, just for apple to support an already industry wide used one.
 
4$ is a lot when considering the margins mfg are working under for the average consumer model (sub 1k). I just don't see why they don't give it away and makeup the money with extra content / hardware sales that would come as a result.
 
Why does every headline have to be a question? look at the past three headlines. It's so annoying. Rephrase the headline.
 
goobot said:
And this will help apple how? People aren't gana buy iOS devices for airplay but will for the atv.
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It will help Apple sell their products to people like me who won`t ever purchase any IOS device until the system is opened up to be compatible across different platforms.
 
addicted44 said:
Sure, but "Stream movies from your iPhone or iPad straight to the TV. Only on a Sony" sounds pretty great.

Makes a great commercial too.
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Yes, assuming Sony buys an exclusive... which is not the case here. Apple's goal appears to be to get lots of companies to play ball. Take out the exclusivity element, and it's just another benefit to tout (though not a headline benefit).

For example, my new Samsung has a whole bunch of apps. I can plug media right into USB ports and play it there. Etc. I wouldn't see this Airplay feature as any more "wow" than those features, certainly not enough to build much advertising around it in hopes of selling more TVs.

Again, not against building in Airplay, just not believing that it's a great idea to try to sell the licenses and get limited takers vs. give them away and get more takers. It seems like a technology you would want to entrench everywhere rather than yet another one that might get some limited adoption due to cost (even $4 per TV is a lot of added cost to a TV manufacturer).
 
ptysell said:
Apparently you don't understand just how many iOS devices apples has sold.
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Apparently you don't understand just how more TVs are sold to people without iDevices. Yes, the iDevice crowd is thick here, but here is not everywhere TVs are sold. Many of our iDevice owners around the world are still awaiting the ability to rent ANY video via iTunes, much less to be able to rent it and then sling it to an airplay-enabled TV.
 
marksman said:
TVs are being marketed because they have Facebook on them. If you don't think electronics manufacturers would not heavily promote that it supported Apple Airplay, just for the halo benefit alone, you are mistaken.
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I just bought a new cutting-edge TV, and I researched the crap out of them. As such, I was exposed to tons of TV advertising. If in the course of all if that, if one of them made a Facebook app a headline point for why I should buy their TV, I missed that ad.

And by the way, the TV that I bought happens to have a Facebook App. But that's certainly was NOT a factor in why I bought it.

Again, I'm not saying the idea of incorporating Airplay into TVs is a bad idea- quite the contrary. My point is about getting it entrenched in all TVs by giving it away rather than trying to get $4 per unit for it. Those that want it win by it entrenching in all TVs. I question whether the $4 will yield a situation that it only gets into select TVs when it could eventually be everywhere.
 
I have a tv with an iPod dock as a feature that can play video off my iPhone when plugged in (the dock doesn't fit my iPad, booo). I don't really see why Apple would prevent Airplay from being built in to TVs when they have iPod docks. Kind of a no brainer here.

PS: The dock wasn't a factor, it was on sale. Having Airplay might have been a factor.
 
matt303 said:
If iOS supported DLNA you would be able to do this without any new standard, there is no need for a new apple developed standard for this, I can stream video from my android phone to my TV, Bluray and PVR already. This is something devices have been able to do before Airplay came along.

It's not hat these devices need a new standard, just for apple to support an already industry wide used one.
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yes, i can do this with my htc desire hd and sony tv already....
it is very apple like anyway, create a different name for something and call it theirs like airplay and retina display :apple:
 
smaffei said:
...it worked reliably from my Mac Mini (2010) to my iPad 2 without saying "you are not authorized to play this video" every other time, I would care.
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Work perfect with both my appletv 2 and my Zeppelin Air and except for a stutter here or there for a second or two I have found the technology easy to use and stable. :) Over burden wifi.

I love to see more of this technology implemented, my nice ipad 1;) has apple lossless albums in it and the music coming out sound great. It still just wifi but been able to streem music to anywhere in the house by hooking up an apple airport is also nice.

Airport with bose speakers upstairs kitchen area :) would not have been possible or as easy as it was before airplay.

So apple go for it make our lives easier to enjoy.:D

Now if only apple made itunes run as a service I be double happy.
 
thisisahughes said:
I figured this would be coming once I seen the Pioneer VSX-1021-K.
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Me too! I am in the market for a new home theater set up, and the Pioneer was near the top of my list because of its compatibility with AirPlay. It would be nice to have it built in my new LED TV as well.
 
bbeagle said:
This would greatly improve the usability of airplay, in my opinion.

Imagine you had your TV on some random channel, while surfing the internet on your iPad. If your TV supported AirPlay, then you could just click the Airplay button on your iPad, and the random channel would be changed to the Airplay content. You wouldn't have to change the tuners over to Apple TV. Much more convenient.
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Exactly.

Fumbling for a different remote to change the input-channel on the TV is currently a minor barrier to using it. Especially when you just want to show a photo or something quickly.

This also falls in line with Steve Jobs' own comments about AppleTV when he said "No one wants another box".
 
tbobmccoy said:
I don't buy it; Apple offers the Apple TV for $99 which provides AirPlay.
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...and does a lot more than stream airplay. but not everybody is going to buy yet another set-top box. but everybody buys a tv sooner or later -- if apple can get $4+ per set sold, from all the major manus, why not? more TVs sell than ATVs...
 
While I wish the AppleTV supported DLNA, that's not really directly comparable to AirPlay, is it? DLNA seems to be a "pull" protocol and it seems to be more closely comparable to iTunes Home Sharing.

AirPlay is more of a "push" protocol.
 
Why not allow them to build in an AppleTV? Sell them the components at cost and license the software. If it costs the consumer $99. what is it going to cost a manufacturer...
 
notjustjay said:
While I wish the AppleTV supported DLNA, that's not really directly comparable to AirPlay, is it? DLNA seems to be a "pull" protocol and it seems to be more closely comparable to iTunes Home Sharing.

AirPlay is more of a "push" protocol.
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AFAIK DLNA 'pushes'. AirPlay is more of a redirect of the stream.
 
Cander said:
AFAIK DLNA 'pushes'. AirPlay is more of a redirect of the stream.
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What I mean is that DLNA seems to be always used in the context of "I am here, and my media is over there". For example, I have music or movies stored on a remote server or a NAS, and I want to bring it into the device I'm currently sitting at (a TV, an iPod or iPad, a PS3, another computer).

Whereas AirPlay seems to be the opposite: "My media is here, but I want to play it over there". You use AirPlay to redirect the audio/video output from your iPhone or iPad or computer to a remote A/V device like your stereo receiver or Apple TV.
 
Lame

Why don't they just use existing standards? RTSP, H.264/MPEG4 video and bonjour. There. No licensing required.

But no.

Apple pulls the "standards compliant" flag out of their asses only when it suits them. Boo.
 
nsayer said:
Why don't they just use existing standards? RTSP, H.264/MPEG4 video and bonjour. There. No licensing required.

But no.

Apple pulls the "standards compliant" flag out of their asses only when it suits them. Boo.
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Apple is all for open standards...except when they are not.
 
I would like this implemented for this reason:
If i wanted to watch something via AirPlay and my Apple TV, I would have to switch my input on my receiver, have the Apple TV load up, then stream the content from my Idevice.

If I could stream from my phone or Ipad with out having to change anything on my receiver or tv input, this would be amazing for me!
 
JAT said:
Meh. Integrated stuff always fails first. See VHS/TV and DVD/TV combo units, or the lack of updates (and eventual phase-out) for TVs with built-in cable or sat tuners. I'll take it separately, thanks.
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so you have a stand-alone tuner, then, i take it? same thing.
 
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