Apple Seemingly Working on Sleep Score Feature for Apple Watch

[ignatius345]

out of curiosity, do a lot of people sleep with their watches on?
I've always just used an analogue watch myself so mine comes off when i get home in the evening and sits on my bedside table.

If people wear it while sleeping, when do they charge it?

I have a fairly hard time getting enough sleep, so I bought an Apple Watch specifically for activity and sleep tracking. I find it's good to at least have a consistent source of data so I can look for trends and correlations. I don't love sleeping with a watch on, but I've gotten used to it.

As for charging, there are some pretty big chunks of time when I'm at my desk working so I keep a charger there. And on days when I'm not working, I will just take it off for an hour or so at some point while I'm having dinner, watching TV, etc. If you take little opportunities like that it's fine.

 

[ignatius345]

Hopefully they don't stop at sleep score. Apple Health gives you so much data but very little in terms of how to interpret it and act moving forward.

Agree. I would love more high-level analysis.

I'd also very much like to see my Health data on my Mac. I'm compiling a ton of personal data (my data) at my own expense, but I can only access it on the smallest screens I own. No idea why Apple has made this choice but it's very frustrating.

 

[neotint]

out of curiosity, do a lot of people sleep with their watches on?
I've always just used an analogue watch myself so mine comes off when i get home in the evening and sits on my bedside table.

If people wear it while sleeping, when do they charge it?

Shower (1x to 2x day in summer) mostly. Recent models quick charge so it's not a bother to top up anytime.

 

[neotint]

I like the product strategy here to focus on the outcome (Focus quality when awake) that may help people invest more attention in better sleep hygiene. So far Athlytic iOS app has the best fitness focused data views. For watchOS is seems to be slowly building better fitness features that are more humanistic and helpful vs. techno data quant nerd products that don't focus on outcomes or help users understand data implications in more relatable human-centered ways. (This is a general problem in society: tech fetish and shiny object addiction, without a focus on value and real human needs.)

 

[Nekronos]

Genuinely curious, what does the Garmin offer that the Apple Watch doesn't? I know Garmins are more targeted to fitness stuff, but the feature list wasn't that different when I last checked them out.

It's pretty substantial actually from a fitness and data analysis standpoint. Not only does Garmin provide more data (more data points/measurements bringing more granularity) but also the insights and ways to view the data (more ways and its easier). Garmin's data analysis capability is 100x better than apple watch. It has more features around fitness measuring your effort, fitness readiness for planned race/events, etc, etc.

Apple watch is conservative and hesitant to give insights, this i think is partly driven by fear of potential inaccuracy but also philosophy - Apple leadership has stated numerous times they think too many data points leads to obsession that can be unhealthy which is why it centers around high level trends. I imagine fewer data points also helps conserve the already poor battery life.

The fitness features apple has slowly added Garmin has had better versions of for years.

 

[tifrato]

Interesting point. We use the opposite way - trying to achieve higher scores by changing temperature and lightning in bedroom. When and what to eat in the evening etc.
Garmin’s sleep score, HRV and body battery bales are pretty accurate to indicate how well we perform during the day.

I got a bad score. What should I do then?
Trial and error: I change temperature (hard to do if you ask me: in summer it‘s too warm and I don‘t have air condition), then the score stays as bad as before. Give it another try, change lighting… nothing happens. Then: don‘t eat warm food in the evening. Guess what happened? Nothing…

Just kidding, but a score is useful if I get some advice too and then see it getting better!?

 

[chelsel]

Hopefully they don't stop at sleep score. Apple Health gives you so much data but very little in terms of how to interpret it and act moving forward.

Apps like MyBodyWatch, Athlytic and HRV4Training do a good job of interpreting the slew of data. I particularly like the simplicity of mbw.

 

[huanbrother]

Great, can't wait to compete the score with friends...

 

[GrassShark]

Apps like MyBodyWatch, Athlytic and HRV4Training do a good job of interpreting the slew of data. I particularly like the simplicity of mbw.

Yup, I have some of those installed already, but even between the apps I use I get pretty varied results. This isn't to say Apple's methodology would be more correct, but having more of this stuff built is always going to be preferable to not having it.

It would be interesting to see how those apps interpretations of data taken on an Apple Watch stack up to data and interpretations for the same activity on a Garmin.

 

[CarlJ]

out of curiosity, do a lot of people sleep with their watches on?
I've always just used an analogue watch myself so mine comes off when i get home in the evening and sits on my bedside table.

If people wear it while sleeping, when do they charge it?

I've been sleeping with my Appel Watch on ever since the sleep tracking features were added. It's nice to get up in the morning and see numbers for how well I slept, to compare/contrast with how I'm feeling. I charge the watch sometime during the day or in the evening, when I'm sitting down for an hour anyway, just drop it on the charger for 45ish minutes.

 

[terrapinjess]

I won’t wear my apple watch for sleep because 1. My garmin offers a sleep score and 2., the big one, there’s STILL no way to make the alarm to go off on my phone instead of my watch (when using the sleep schedule/sleep tracking.) I’ve slept through my alarm multiple times because there’s no way to force it to go off on my phone.
Why is there no way to force the the wake up alarm to go off on the phone?!

 

[Momof2.1107]

out of curiosity, do a lot of people sleep with their watches on?
I've always just used an analogue watch myself so mine comes off when i get home in the evening and sits on my bedside table.

If people wear it while sleeping, when do they charge it?

Yes I have been wearing my Apple Watch to bed for years to track my sleep. I charge it in the morning before work. It only takes about 30-45 minutes.

 

[Wieslawo]

out of curiosity, do a lot of people sleep with their watches on?
I've always just used an analogue watch myself so mine comes off when i get home in the evening and sits on my bedside table.

If people wear it while sleeping, when do they charge it?

Oh come on. Morning shower, evening shower, dinner, breakfest.

 

[I_Sheep]

I don't mean to downplay any of these features, I think these are largely all thing Apple should push toward offering both on the watch and in the Health app on the phone, but many of these are things you can already get in some form or another via 3rd party apps — which is one of the main strengths of the Apple Watch. It would obviously be great if they were already built in, but going back the original post I was replying to:


This makes it sound like Garmins do a ton of things you couldn't get on an Apple Watch for any amount of money, which just doesn't seem to be true.

But the problem with third party apps are they don’t talk to each other or watchOS. This morning my Garmin didn’t recommend any runs because I didn’t sleep too well and hasn’t for a few days because my HRV is tanking, which could be a sign of overtraining or I’m getting sick. Third party developers arent always reliable vs big brands like Apple and Garmin and what’s worse is it sucks that certain features are kept behind a paywall. Look at Strava: I can’t see what my best runs have been unless I pay for a subscription. With a Garmin, there’s none of that nonsense and it looks at everything holistically, whereas iOS and watchOS apps are all siloed.