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Amazing that Apple is outselling the competitors whose wearables are a fraction of the price of an Apple Watch.

Even more amazing that stupid analysts group together $50 fitness bands and compare those sales to a $500 Apple Watch. As if they're even remotely in the same market segment.
 
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Apple should have an even better competitive advantage in watches than in phones. The CPU/Battery combo in a phone is easier for competitors to match than in a watch where the S/W combo should shine.
 
...and then we will get Forbes and Business Insider clickbait headlines how Apple Watch market share has "collapsed" even though those kind of figures would be a crazy success for Apple.

Forbes has been horrible, in one article they compared/Reviewed MacBook Pro to Chrome Book & the verdict was Chrome Book was better laptop than MBP.
These are 2 different categories, shouldn't compare in first place.
 
Ho hum, just more domination from Apple.

No, they aren't trying to dominate market share, but since they created the wearables market, they will enjoy that for a while too.

Even if the share drops, it will become like the dominant iPhone business.
How did Apple create the wearables market?

Anyhow it’s a testament to the quality of the Apple Watch. That’s why it’s doing so well.
 
Except for Xiaomi.

The chart shows unit market share, not revenue market share. The Xiaomi devices are mostly just fitness trackers with a couple of smart phone features, and are much cheaper.
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Exactly what "non-wrist worn wearable devices" are they counting for Apple?

Go to the MacRumors article and start reading from the beginning. They explain this right up front.
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Even more amazing that stupid analysts group together $50 fitness bands and compare those sales to a $500 Apple Watch. As if they're even remotely in the same market segment.

They do that breakdown. What MacRumors iss showing is IDC's free "teaser" to get people to buy the paid tracking service, which does such detailed breakdowns.
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More market share "data" by a company (IDC) not exactly known for accurate estimations.
I beg to differ. When I worked in tech, we used to buy IDC services, and found them to be as accurate as one could hope for. Not 100%, but decent enough.

How did IDC come by these statistics? Certainly Apple never divulged Apple Watch or AirPods sales volume info (and they stopped doing so for iPhone end of last year).

They provide a high level explanation of how they derive these estimates in their datasheets, which you can download if you follow the links in the MacRumors article. The methodology involves a lot of interviews of suppliers, channels, etc., and reverse-engineering financials. They may also use econometric data that reflects the economies and sector growth, as well as historical vendor penetration, in various geographical segments.

For example, let's suppose a company makes two product lines, "wearables" and "PCs", and reports $10B in income. Let's also suppose that wearables range in wholesale price from $200-500 and PC range from $500-$1500. IDC creates a model of ASPs and volumes for each model for the two product lines that results in $10B. Then, by using what they glean from the interviews, and whatever market data is available, they come up with a mix that is consistent with all that dat. Don't forget, they are tracking PCs, smart phones, wearables, services, etc. ; so for a company such as Apple, all of IDCs estimates have to add up to the public numbers.
 



Apple shipped an estimated 12.8 million wearable devices globally in the first calendar quarter of 2019, according to new data shared today by IDC. The wearables category includes Apple Watch, AirPods, and select Beats headphones.

Apple earned 25.8 percent market share during the quarter, making it the top wearables company, and growth was way up. In Q1 2018, Apple shipped an estimated 8.6 million devices, marking 49.5 percent growth year-over-year.

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Chinese companies Xiaomi and Huawei were Apple's closest competitors with 6.6 and 5 million devices shipped, respectively, while Samsung and Fitbit took the fourth and fifth places with 4.3 and 2.9 million devices shipped, respectively.

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In total, there were 49.6 million wearable devices shipped during the first quarter of 2019, up 55.2 percent from the first quarter of 2018.

Splitting the data up by wrist-worn devices only, IDC believes Apple shipped an estimated 4.6 million devices, up from 4 million in the year-ago quarter. Apple was not the top company when it comes to wrist-worn wearables, with that spot going to Xiaomi.

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Xiaomi shipped an estimated 5.3 million wrist-worn wearable devices for 10.7 percent market share, slightly higher than Apple's 9.3 percent market share.

Huawei, Fitbit, and Samsung all trailed after Xiaomi and Apple, shipping 3.9, 2.9, and 2 million devices respectively during the first quarter of 2019. According to IDC, Apple's ASP for the Apple Watch jumped from $426 in Q1 2018 to $455 in Q1 2019.Apple has refreshed its Apple Watch every year since the device was introduced in 2015. In 2018, the Apple Watch Series 4 brought new ECG health features and an updated design with slimmer bezels. In 2019, rumors suggest we could see new casing materials and perhaps new display technology.

Article Link: Apple Sees Strong Wearables Growth With 12.8 Million Shipments in Q1 2019
[doublepost=1559247279][/doublepost]IDC is simply NOT credible.
 
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They do that breakdown. What MacRumors iss showing is IDC's free "teaser" to get people to buy the paid tracking service, which does such detailed breakdowns.

Not a good way to advertise what numbers you "might" have (or their accuracy) by misrepresenting the ones you do show publicly. I certainly wouldn't pay based on what they publicly show. Or based on their history, which is wrong more often than they're right (like IDC predicting Windows Phone to overtake iOS).
 
Disposable wearable apparently is a lucrative market. The Swiss with their long term reliability may learn from this.

Meh, my Submariner, that I've had since 1989, just sits in my safe. To many things that are beneficial to me with my Apple Watch to go back to it. Not to mention the cost every 5-8 years to maintain it. Heck, for the price of its' service by Rolex, I can buy several AW's. BTW, how's Swatch doing these days?
 
Apple is making another GIANT mistake by not bringing Apple Watch to be compatible with Android phons, after so many years. If they don't start doing it very soon, they are losing that BIG market forever, I meant FOREVER!
 
Apple is making another GIANT mistake by not bringing Apple Watch to be compatible with Android phons, after so many years. If they don't start doing it very soon, they are losing that BIG market forever, I meant FOREVER!

Yes, I’m sure it on apples priority list.

In the mean time if an android user wants an Apple Watch they need to get an iPhone, most just do that.
 
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For example, let's suppose a company makes two product lines, "wearables" and "PCs", and reports $10B in income. Let's also suppose that wearables range in wholesale price from $200-500 and PC range from $500-$1500. IDC creates a model of ASPs and volumes for each model for the two product lines that results in $10B. Then, by using what they glean from the interviews, and whatever market data is available, they come up with a mix that is consistent with all that dat. Don't forget, they are tracking PCs, smart phones, wearables, services, etc. ; so for a company such as Apple, all of IDCs estimates have to add up to the public numbers.

So let’s summarise: IDC models what they think the market looks like, and then makes their interview data fit that, to be consistent with the model.

I think they need to step away from their computers and walk outside into the real world.
 
Oh, but I thought "the Apple Watch is a failure"...

Wearables are the future of Apple and Tim Cook is executing methodically on that vision. The trinity of Apple Watch + AirPods + Glasses will replace the iPhone as Apple's flagship product line as it has plateaued and the Watch still has years of growth potential ahead.

As an Apple Watch users since the start, bit by bit it's been possible to leave my iPhone behind. Adding cellular was a leap ahead. Greater app independence in the upcoming watchOS update will move that goal forward but ultimately, augmented reality glasses will be the final seal in creating a new type of personal computer that's not a slab of glass in your pocket but items of technology that you wear that keep you fully connected while still being present in the world around you.
 
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If apple comes up with fitness band, basic display, week long battery life it would be great. Since we always carry phones for some of us we can do away with big display & most apps.. just a thought.
 
Amazing that Apple is outselling the competitors whose wearables are a fraction of the price of an Apple Watch.

More evidence Apple's customer base are willing to pay premium prices for premium devices.

No doubt that irritates the whine-n-moan crowd. But that's fine since they're not able to pay the premium.
 
I have used my Apple watch series 4 Space Black Stainless 44mm way more than I thought I would. I don't have to jerk my iPhone x out of my pocket near as much as I use to just to read a message, check weather, email, and so on. I have accidentally bang it against every object (wooden, concrete, steel) multiple times and it still looks brand new. My wife didn't want one but I bought her one anyway just like mine and she loves it and doesn't how she got by without it. I have a Mac Book Pro, iPhone x, iPad Pro, but the watch is my favorite Apple product.
 
Apple is making another GIANT mistake by not bringing Apple Watch to be compatible with Android phons, after so many years. If they don't start doing it very soon, they are losing that BIG market forever, I meant FOREVER!
Hilarious take.

“Big” mistakes from the most profitable company in the world.

They don’t need your advice. Market share isn’t their strategy and doesn’t need to be.
 
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