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Apple Sending Out 30-Day Reminders for MobileMe Discontinuation
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if your hardware means you can't go beyond Snow Leopard and you don't want to switch to Vista or W7; or if you rely on some particular MobileMe features not covered by iCloud:
email - mac.com / me.com: this shouldn't be effected if you change to iCloud (and they say this is OK if you can't upgrade your hardware - it should be so as it's just an IMAP service).
calendar: this may be time to get a gmail account anyway!
contacts: as above.
Safari Bookmarks: this may be time to switch to FireFox, you can sync bookmarks between machines (using Firefox Sync).
Notes: try Simpenote!
iWeb: you can still use iWeb but you must move your site/s to a new web host (watch the ScreenCastsOnline video SCOM0345 - with some discounts on a UK2.net / WestHost).
Yojimbo: we're all still waiting!!! Some are slipping away to Evernote. (There is a workaround using Dropbox but it has limitations - see the Yojimbo website).
iBank: again still waiting but a possible workaround is using CloudSafe.com for the webDAV sync (free up to 2GB).
iDisk: plenty of options but for me it's Microsoft's SkyDrive and LiveMesh (the later syncs existing folders between machines - brilliant!).
MobileMe Gallery: just go Flickr (pro). An alternative worth checking out is ZangZing.
Hope this helps other .Mac (and MobileMe) pioneers. It does remind me how comprehensive MobileMe actually is (was).
It still remains a puzzle though with 'cloud-computing' being the cornerstone of our digital future, and that everyone seems to be trying to create 'digital ecosystems' to draw in the loyalty of users - why Apple are having a garage sale of theirs?
if your hardware means you can't go beyond Snow Leopard and you don't want to switch to Vista or W7; or if you rely on some particular MobileMe features not covered by iCloud:
email - mac.com / me.com: this shouldn't be effected if you change to iCloud (and they say this is OK if you can't upgrade your hardware - it should be so as it's just an IMAP service).
calendar: this may be time to get a gmail account anyway!
contacts: as above.
Safari Bookmarks: this may be time to switch to FireFox, you can sync bookmarks between machines (using Firefox Sync).
Notes: try Simpenote!
iWeb: you can still use iWeb but you must move your site/s to a new web host (watch the ScreenCastsOnline video SCOM0345 - with some discounts on a UK2.net / WestHost).
Yojimbo: we're all still waiting!!! Some are slipping away to Evernote. (There is a workaround using Dropbox but it has limitations - see the Yojimbo website).
iBank: again still waiting but a possible workaround is using CloudSafe.com for the webDAV sync (free up to 2GB).
iDisk: plenty of options but for me it's Microsoft's SkyDrive and LiveMesh (the later syncs existing folders between machines - brilliant!).
MobileMe Gallery: just go Flickr (pro). An alternative worth checking out is ZangZing.
Hope this helps other .Mac (and MobileMe) pioneers. It does remind me how comprehensive MobileMe actually is (was).
It still remains a puzzle though with 'cloud-computing' being the cornerstone of our digital future, and that everyone seems to be trying to create 'digital ecosystems' to draw in the loyalty of users - why Apple are having a garage sale of theirs?
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I'm glad that it will work so effectively for that small portion of user needs. It's too bad I can't access Preview PDFs in a native apple experience (that'd Word docs, or PPTs, or Excel files, or the majority of file types that people use to conduct business). Or easily share any of those files.
And if you're right and it will take at least two cycles to perfect (no reason to doubt that, I was a user at the launches of .mac and .me) then apple ought to have given us longer overlap between services. I'm trading something that works pretty well with a wide variety of needs for something that may work sometimes with a very narrow focus? Not a good trade. Especially since the user has no say.
elephant in the room
This isn't the worst puzzle or problem, though as an Apple shareholder I do find it concerning. How can we be content with Apple's (and everybody else's) inexorable move towards internet-dependent features? They can be great when they work, but there are times when my 10GB cable broadband simply does not function. And I know plenty of people who live where there is zero access to broadband. Furthermore, the times when connection through the ether is weak or unavailable are numerous and significant. There has to be hardware basis. I am not even wholly convinced that important things need not be kept as hard copy. Paper - now there's an invention! I regularly use paper documents that are over 500 years old, still in excellent condition, and functioning exactly as well as when they were new. Need I say more?
This isn't the worst puzzle or problem, though as an Apple shareholder I do find it concerning. How can we be content with Apple's (and everybody else's) inexorable move towards internet-dependent features? They can be great when they work, but there are times when my 10GB cable broadband simply does not function. And I know plenty of people who live where there is zero access to broadband. Furthermore, the times when connection through the ether is weak or unavailable are numerous and significant. There has to be hardware basis. I am not even wholly convinced that important things need not be kept as hard copy. Paper - now there's an invention! I regularly use paper documents that are over 500 years old, still in excellent condition, and functioning exactly as well as when they were new. Need I say more?
iCloud replacing MobileMe -- idon't think so!
iCloud falls way short as a replacement for MobileMe (unable to transfer videos.....
BACKGROUND:
I began buying Apple products in 1984... I have been, and continue to be a loyal owner of numerous Apple products. Additionally, I was responsible for two businesses leaving the PC windows platform, and purchasing many-many Apple computers/printers while converting to the new Apple environment.
Now retired, I was among the first to subscribe to MobileMe...... After editing (84) family videos I stored them on my MobileMe storage space. Breaking the cardinal rule, to free up space, I eliminated all of the edited versions on my iMac and used the MobileMe account as my exclusive storage.
Unfortunately, living in a rural area I am encumbered by a very slow broadband service. Since I can't turn on the computer and automatically download all of the videos over the weekend I am forced to travel to a town offering high speed wifi. Looking for the best solution I discussed the issue with apple support and despite having an iPad2 settled on buying the NEW iPad for my remote downloading adventure.
I soon found out I was unable to download the videos remotely from MobileMe using my NEW iPad.
Since my iMacs aren't really portable and my only portable apple products are two iPads, an iPhone, and a couple of iTouches none of which are capable of solving my problem.
Part 1 solution: Travel to a remote wifi location, use my old pc notebook with an external Hard Drive and hope it works long enough on battery power to download the videos
Part 2 solution: Find a remote www which provides storage for the videos for family/friends sharing since they can't be stored on iCloud.
Any and all suggestions are welcome .
regards
jim
iCloud falls way short as a replacement for MobileMe (unable to transfer videos.....
BACKGROUND:
I began buying Apple products in 1984... I have been, and continue to be a loyal owner of numerous Apple products. Additionally, I was responsible for two businesses leaving the PC windows platform, and purchasing many-many Apple computers/printers while converting to the new Apple environment.
Now retired, I was among the first to subscribe to MobileMe...... After editing (84) family videos I stored them on my MobileMe storage space. Breaking the cardinal rule, to free up space, I eliminated all of the edited versions on my iMac and used the MobileMe account as my exclusive storage.
Unfortunately, living in a rural area I am encumbered by a very slow broadband service. Since I can't turn on the computer and automatically download all of the videos over the weekend I am forced to travel to a town offering high speed wifi. Looking for the best solution I discussed the issue with apple support and despite having an iPad2 settled on buying the NEW iPad for my remote downloading adventure.
I soon found out I was unable to download the videos remotely from MobileMe using my NEW iPad.
Since my iMacs aren't really portable and my only portable apple products are two iPads, an iPhone, and a couple of iTouches none of which are capable of solving my problem.
Part 1 solution: Travel to a remote wifi location, use my old pc notebook with an external Hard Drive and hope it works long enough on battery power to download the videos
Part 2 solution: Find a remote www which provides storage for the videos for family/friends sharing since they can't be stored on iCloud.
Any and all suggestions are welcome .
regards
jim
The Grouch Is in the House
Some of you may recognize The Grouch from the Paint Shop / Photo Shop complaint thread. (Adobe CS6 free beta is still a non starter.)
Golly gee Gosh, I don't know how I live without all those iSoft goodies. Pardon me if I didn't look up ZingZang.
Wonder what this forum will look like when AAPL has the iCloud fire sale. I suppose 150 million users can't be wrong, or can they? The way AAPL duplicates contacts and then duplicates the duplicates, and even duplicates data within a contact, and the way AAPL syncs (whatever sync means) iPhone notes to a Mac (if only little text notes could be found without struggle on a Mac) along with all the struggles on this tread, gives zero confidence in iCloud.
Grouch iToys: Win XP on an antique PC for Paint Shop (Bootcamp, blah), MacBook on 10.6, iPhone 4 on 5.1, iPad 3 on 5.1, Wind powered abacus on iOS 0, Wind powered smoke signal ISP, antique analog slide rule, neighborhood teenager genius bar for finding Notes on a Mac, Gmail, Firefox, etc. Do you suppose AAPL would be interested in a wind powered abacus farm? Oh, don't forget your thumb drives and Western Digital TB backup disks. Let me check . . . yep, the data is still there. Also don't forget to refresh your pencils with new erasers.
Some of you may recognize The Grouch from the Paint Shop / Photo Shop complaint thread. (Adobe CS6 free beta is still a non starter.)
Golly gee Gosh, I don't know how I live without all those iSoft goodies. Pardon me if I didn't look up ZingZang.
Wonder what this forum will look like when AAPL has the iCloud fire sale. I suppose 150 million users can't be wrong, or can they? The way AAPL duplicates contacts and then duplicates the duplicates, and even duplicates data within a contact, and the way AAPL syncs (whatever sync means) iPhone notes to a Mac (if only little text notes could be found without struggle on a Mac) along with all the struggles on this tread, gives zero confidence in iCloud.
Grouch iToys: Win XP on an antique PC for Paint Shop (Bootcamp, blah
), MacBook on 10.6, iPhone 4 on 5.1, iPad 3 on 5.1, Wind powered abacus on iOS 0, Wind powered smoke signal ISP, antique analog slide rule, neighborhood teenager genius bar for finding Notes on a Mac, Gmail, Firefox, etc. Do you suppose AAPL would be interested in a wind powered abacus farm? Oh, don't forget your thumb drives and Western Digital TB backup disks. Let me check . . . yep, the data is still there. Also don't forget to refresh your pencils with new erasers.
I'm gonna truly miss the MobileMe gallery. The absolute BEST way to share edited pics with friends/family.
I'm still searching for a worthy substitute, but nothing will come close to the ease of hitting the MobileMe Gallery button in Aperture....
I'm still searching for a worthy substitute, but nothing will come close to the ease of hitting the MobileMe Gallery button in Aperture....
Rural Bandwidth
We faced a similar rural problem with no T1, no cable, and some god awful satellite service. We needed to download several GB. I bought a little 12 V DC to 120 V AC converter to keep a laptop charged off a car battery. Fortunately there is a nice little town library with a T1 line, and after hours, there is enough speed off their wifi. And, fortunately there is a nice little western bar grill to pass the time.
We faced a similar rural problem with no T1, no cable, and some god awful satellite service. We needed to download several GB. I bought a little 12 V DC to 120 V AC converter to keep a laptop charged off a car battery. Fortunately there is a nice little town library with a T1 line, and after hours, there is enough speed off their wifi. And, fortunately there is a nice little western bar grill to pass the time.
Vista and 7 support a very small subset of iCloud features. They don't support key value data. Apple could have done similar things with Snow Leopard but it would have looked pretty poor next to Lion functionality
I'm hoping the Journals feature in iPhoto iOS is fleshed out more with sharing features. It's got potential.
Rustic4 - can you have someone you trust with a Mac log into your MM and save those videos locally?
or better yet send them a link and they should be able to download the files from your iDisk directly.
I'm on SL 10.6.8.
When I moved from MM to iCloud, iCal transferred all the data in it to Calendar in iCloud. It just doesn't sync to iCal, so anything I have added to iCal since migrating to iCloud does not show up in Calendar.
I think that's what was meant.
As for Contacts, go to Address Book>File>Export>Export vCard, (then I saved mine to desktop). Open iCloud, open Contacts, click on the wheel cog in the bottom left of the page and Import vCard.
As with Calendar it won't actually sync, but it does make adding your Address Book contacts to iCloud very easy.
First unhappiness with Apple since 2006
I have my website through iWeb on mobileme and this is a big headache. I lose my website entirely. I have a busy life and having even had to research and buy an alternative software has been no fun. I have purchased Sandvox but not opened it yet, also I have not made alternative hosting arrangements. This is no fun whatever. I switched to Apple partially in 2006 cause of the Website facility and that is now gone. Arrrgh!!!!!!
I have my website through iWeb on mobileme and this is a big headache. I lose my website entirely. I have a busy life and having even had to research and buy an alternative software has been no fun. I have purchased Sandvox but not opened it yet, also I have not made alternative hosting arrangements. This is no fun whatever. I switched to Apple partially in 2006 cause of the Website facility and that is now gone. Arrrgh!!!!!!
honestly
I honestly don't know what is SOO special in ical in 1.07, that makes allowing syncing with 10.6.8 so difficult. And yet, in order to stay using the functionality from a BUSINESS standpoint that we have come to rely on, calendar and contact syncing, we have to migrate all perfectly good stable and functioning systems up to 10.7, or move to another platform for these services. Really a dumb move if you ask me.
I honestly don't know what is SOO special in ical in 1.07, that makes allowing syncing with 10.6.8 so difficult. And yet, in order to stay using the functionality from a BUSINESS standpoint that we have come to rely on, calendar and contact syncing, we have to migrate all perfectly good stable and functioning systems up to 10.7, or move to another platform for these services. Really a dumb move if you ask me.
I've suggested everyone contact Apple, even trying to contact Mr Cook since this is now in the home stretch and upper management are the only ones that can postpone the demise of those three key features.
It would be nice if these Blog sites would do a survey like the one to keep the MacPro
Well... I'm not expecting any "one more thing..." at the next WWDC where Cook surprises anyone by introducing a (free) iCloud iDisk. I've moved to the 10GB storage that my ISP provides. The only thing that I'm looking for is some sort of plugin that emulates the same sync and offline functionality iDisk has.
I think that an iDisk will be announced at the upcoming WWDC in less than 2 weeks. They probably didn't do it last year because it would have required a lot more server space than the other iCloud features. Oh, and you'll probably have to pay for it.
I wouldn't get my hopes up to see iCloud for Snow Leopard. Apple seems to think that using anything they released over two years ago is obsolete.
I wouldn't get my hopes up to see iCloud for Snow Leopard. Apple seems to think that using anything they released over two years ago is obsolete.
That's not the view at all. iDisk wasn't going to make it architecturally. WebDav simply isn't fast enough for today's modern sync.
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Not going to happen.
iDisk replicates a filesystem which means it's understandable to Mac and PC users but iOS does not have a filesystem so iDisk is incongruent with how iOS manages files.
A move away from iDisk into iCloud satiates both platforms. Rather than becoming folder centric everything becomes app centric and that unifies both platform as the document level.
Battery issues after migration?
Putting my experience out there should it help someone in a similar boat.
Last night I finally bit the bullet and migrated my mobileme account to icloud. It's an extra email account I rarely used, contacts were already merged to icloud, and dropbox is taking over for idisk. I was just lazy and held out.
Migration completes, I click the little box thing on my phone. All is well. Plug in my phone and go to bed.
Got up this morning and made one phone brief phone call shortly after. Went to take a shower, noticed my battery was at ~35%.
"Hmm, guess I forgot to plug it in last night"
Get out of the shower and grab my phone. 12%. WTF?
Cracked open iStat. Saw the load on my phone was around 6.x and staying there. Charged it up to about 25% and went out for lunch. Got a text right before we left the restaurant, I was back down to 9%. Something is up.
I figured it was time to rethink what I had done recently. Updated apps last night, maybe it was one of them? I hooked my phone up and started Instruments. Saw that dataaccessd was chomping on every resource it could catch. I let the activity monitor run for a few minutes while testing out various apps. They would open, utilize CPU, then it would all be consumed by dataaccessd again. Ran the process through google and saw references to icloud. "Ahhh yes, i converted that mobileme account last night".
I went into mail/contacts/etc.. and deleted the new iCloud account. Activity monitor fell flat immediately.
Phone is back to normal battery consumption.
Putting my experience out there should it help someone in a similar boat.
Last night I finally bit the bullet and migrated my mobileme account to icloud. It's an extra email account I rarely used, contacts were already merged to icloud, and dropbox is taking over for idisk. I was just lazy and held out.
Migration completes, I click the little box thing on my phone. All is well. Plug in my phone and go to bed.
Got up this morning and made one phone brief phone call shortly after. Went to take a shower, noticed my battery was at ~35%.
"Hmm, guess I forgot to plug it in last night"
Get out of the shower and grab my phone. 12%. WTF?
Cracked open iStat. Saw the load on my phone was around 6.x and staying there. Charged it up to about 25% and went out for lunch. Got a text right before we left the restaurant, I was back down to 9%. Something is up.
I figured it was time to rethink what I had done recently. Updated apps last night, maybe it was one of them? I hooked my phone up and started Instruments. Saw that dataaccessd was chomping on every resource it could catch. I let the activity monitor run for a few minutes while testing out various apps. They would open, utilize CPU, then it would all be consumed by dataaccessd again. Ran the process through google and saw references to icloud. "Ahhh yes, i converted that mobileme account last night".
I went into mail/contacts/etc.. and deleted the new iCloud account. Activity monitor fell flat immediately.
Phone is back to normal battery consumption.
Apple cloud offerings are in danger of looking deeply anaemic. They should have been some decent acquisitions early on (like Dropbox) and opened things up to Windows to become a real mainstream player against MS and Google.
I'm just left with the impression that Apple are not equipped to know what the heck they're doing with the cloud.
I'm just left with the impression that Apple are not equipped to know what the heck they're doing with the cloud.
Microsoft maybe because of Azure
Google???? They finally get around to delivering Google Drive and it's not that impressive.
Left the real power in cloud services off your list. Amazon (Amazon Web Services)
They certainly didn't need to acquire Dropbox. The talent would be the primary acquisition but iCloud is already much more sophisticated than Dropbox.
Wow. So you "only" spent let's say 10 hours to get 22.8 GB of online storage. If you would earn 100 Bucks per hour, this means you invested "only" 1000 Bucks. Congratulations.
you can set-up iCloud email in 10.6 using imap, and you can sync ical with iCloud using caldav.... contacts sync using carddav... but I will miss idisk and keychain syncing...
Okay, so I'm an idiot. How exactly do you sync iCal with iCloud? In iCal preferences>accounts, I have iCloud CalDAV. Is there a setting that needs to be changed? Any help would be appreciated.
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I got iCal working with iCloud. Here:
http://skangerland.blogspot.com/2011/10/how-to-get-ical-with-icloud-working-in.html
The short version worked for me.
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