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No, the same does not happen to other phones. You might knock of a bar, simply because the hand could partially block the signal yes - but you can't kill the antenna itself on any semi-decent phone. That was the problem with the IP4 - the antenna could be effectively shut down with improper hand placement.

but Apple showed me videos throwing other phones under the bus! why would they lie to the consumer?....

(even tho in the videos you had to basically cover a lot of the other phones to drop some bars instead of just touching one spot and making calls drop)
 
BS. I have the CDMA phone and if I grip it tightly in that area I either drop from 3G to GPRS and/or I lose several bars.

you know that CDMA phones would not drop to GPRS at all. It would be impossible for them to connect to a CDMA network as GPRS is a GSM technology.

The problem with the iPhone 4 is/was the fact that it could completely kill the signal with just touching your pinky finger at one critical point. It was a design flaw and Apple knew about it but Apple choose to go with looking pretty over doing a minor change to prevent it.

Where Apple really got burned was in its attempt to cover up it up and deflect it. If they had admitted it from the start they would of been fine.
 
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We should totally start a Facebook page encouraging everyone who is eligible to collect their $15 and give it to the workers who make them. Not sure how that'd be possible but....tawlk amoungst yawselves
 
AT&T has dropped calls on me regularly since I had the 3GS. I have had the 4 since launch and haven't noticed any increase in dropped calls (or decrease, for that matter). Where's my $15 from AT&T!
 
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If you bought a 4 after the problem was identified how can you be entitled if you knew of the problem beforehand but still bought it? And for the rest they got free cases anyway?? Dont make no sense to me
 
Awesome!

The iPhone 4 improved my signal reception generally and significantly in my home and now I get to pay more money for my next iPhone to pay for this lawsuit. Wait. That makes no sense. Such a frivolous lawsuit.
 
The iPhone 4 improved my signal reception generally and significantly in my home and now I get to pay more money for my next iPhone to pay for this lawsuit. Wait. That makes no sense. Such a frivolous lawsuit.

Apple has just agreed to a settlement, admitting there was a problem, and people like you still cling to the "well I didn't experience any issues, so other people must me crazy" defense...

Amazing...
 
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Are you grabbing the $15 rightfully and in clear conscience that your phone dropped calls because of the way you were holding it?

I refuse to accept this money out of principal:

I believe that Apple can do no wrong.
I fixed it for you.
 
When is the class action lawsuit for the iPhone 4S battery problems starting?

where did Apple lie about the battery? I have not really seen anything going to that fact. Apple official specs have it at a reduced battery life so it will be hard to prove a case.

This case on the other had Apple got caught doing false advertisements and then trying to cover it up. Dragging other cell manufactures threw the mud was not a good idea because that translates into them releasing evidences that can and more than likely was used against Apple. They had been staying rather quite until Apple more or less showed rather questionable at best test results attacking them.
 
No, it's because they fixed it in the iPhone 4S. From the press release :

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/10/04Apple-Launches-iPhone-4S-iOS-5-iCloud.html
what does that have to do with whether it was an engineering issue or not? They fixed the problem but I dont think any of us know for sure what was the cause of the problem or exactly what was dne to fix it. From a design standpoint 4S looks exactly the same except for 4 black slits in the steel frame vs 3 with the iPhone 4.
 
Everyone claiming this is a made-up issue seems to imagine that the court decided this case based on a few internet posts and rumors. I can assure you that both sides introduced many expert testimonials from engineers, and that these cases only get decided in favor of the plaintiffs when there is overwhelming technical evidence, presented by experts conducting many independent tests. More than the rough tests by Anandtech or Consumer Reports, this outcome is evidence that scientific testing shows something was distinctly dysfunctional about the iP4 antenna. This engineering evidence was presumably augmented with a wide array of survey data showing the same thing. Saying that you've never yourself had a problem, or no one you know has, or that Gizmodo or Consumer Report's tests were spurious is all irrelevant. Court cases are not decided with this stuff, but with much, much more scientific evidence.

The nice thing about having millions on the line is that it amasses pretty good evidence. The bad thing is that, unless there is some incentive for the plaintiffs, the hard work assembling those engineers and surveys won't get done, and outcomes will default to the rich and powerful. Hence the need for the class action lawsuit. That said, I agree that $15 is essentially useless, especially when compared to a nice payout for the law firm. But the solution there is not to pay the law firm less, but to pay the plaintiffs more. My 3G phone drops calls all the time; if I discovered that many of those drops were due to negligence on the part of the designing engineers at Apple, I would deserve redress not just for the cost of repairing the flaw, but for the damage to my time and reputation for all those calls lost. That should be much more than $15. Sadly, the "punishment" part of the class-action fee essentially goes all to the law firm, and the plaintiffs themselves just get this trivial repair fee. That should be fixed -- especially when the complaint is something much more significant than this one -- but again, it is flaw in the class-action system, not a reason to abolish it. Without it, large companies would be able to cut engineering corners whenever the damages were small -- and for consumer electronics, this would cover the whole product, since even the whole cost of the product is nowhere near incentive enough for a single individual to sue. Of course, in lieu of class-action suits we could have much strong government regulations (and lawsuits) enforcing companies to do well by their consumers, but this is America, and no one seems to want that.
 
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BanterClaus said:
Shame its only US consumers. I wouldn't have minded $15 for doing nothing...

Are you grabbing the $15 rightfully and in clear conscience that your phone dropped calls because of the way you were holding it?

I refuse to accept this money out of principal:

1. They already gave a free bumper

2. I had plenty of time to return it (just like everybody else)

3. I never had a dropped call or no signal because of that stupid antenna design. Not once.

I don't feel right taking this money...

lol...:rolleyes:
 
How come this is for US customers only.

Am i the only one who bought one Europe !! ??

:rolleyes:

Because US law and US courts have no jurisdiction to approve a settlement in Europe, of course. I think I remember that nearly everyone in Europe was aware of this when the US passed the DCMA Act... wonder why they have forgotten about it now?
 
******** ive is a epic designer u dont deserve products like this if u talk like that

No he is right. If the engineers are telling you that it is a problem then you work with them to do required changes to said design to work.

Design needs to work with in the range of what is engineering possible.
 
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BanterClaus said:
Shame its only US consumers. I wouldn't have minded $15 for doing nothing...

Are you grabbing the $15 rightfully and in clear conscience that your phone dropped calls because of the way you were holding it?

I refuse to accept this money out of principal:

1. They already gave a free bumper

2. I had plenty of time to return it (just like everybody else)

3. I never had a dropped call or no signal because of that stupid antenna design. Not once.

I don't feel right taking this money...

lol...:rolleyes:
 
So if you've already claimed your free bumper, are you still entitled to receive the $15?

Almost certainly yes. By participating in the case program, you did not give up any legal right to collect monetary damages for having a negligently designed product. Additionally, the case didn't fix the problem, it was merely a partial solution as you may have wanted to use the phone without a case to show off the highly marketed iPhone 4 design rather than cover it up.
 
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