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Can’t wait to get the check from Apple after the class action lawsuit for allowing the government to get information from our push notifications.
 
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It is devs fail, not Apple. I’ve bought an app recently, Capto, and the devs don’t allow family sharing. Shame on them.
 
10 million.
Realize even at a really high hourly rate that is 555 WEEKS of work?

Why are laws in place that allow that?

A rationale behind contingency fees is that they give individuals who can't afford a lawyer or don't want to pay for a lawyer (especially when the potential individual claim amount is very small such as the case here) the opportunity to get legal representation without upfront costs. Instead of paying legal costs, win or lose, they only pay after a win. If the case is lost, the law firms don't see any money and have to bear the costs.

This is essentially how commission-based payments are handled e.g., Apple’s App Store. Apple gets up to a 30% cut of the "win" (sale of premium subscriptions/IAPs) instead of the app company paying an upfront fee (besides the $99/year) whether there are sales or not.

This can work fine when verdicts or sales are lower but less so for very large verdicts or sales numbers.
 
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Sure seems like they should get rid of the "opt out" policy then...
Well they’ve got tons of developers locked into those opt out agreements that are bringing in revenue for Apple, so if they pull the rug out they’ll just get sued from the other side.
 
Better off doing small claims and representing yourself than going through a lawyer. 30-50 dollars, lol. View attachment 2325458
I didn't even know about this class action lawsuit but it took me all of 1 minute to fill out the form. Now when I receive my $30 check 8 weeks from now it will be a nice little surprise. Not saying I agree with this litigious process, but how much time would an individual waste in small claims court or some other kind of resolution? My time is worth more than $30/hour but not more than $30/minute. We don't need lawyers 90% of the time to resolve conflicts but they are already here syphoning off of others so we might as well use them too.
 
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Sure, the lawyers are getting almost half but it's okay because they've helped to make the world a better place as a result of the lawsuit, right? Amiright?
Uh… yeah? Consumers get protection from class action lawsuits like this. The only flaw is that companies usually don’t get fined more than the profits they make from their scams so they just do it again
 
So developers can cry more to the EU and the media?
Oh nooo those horrible developers. Won’t someone please think of the giant corporations and protect them from the tyranny of those one-person companies that make $1,000 a year?
 
And if you’re not in the US (aka centre of the universe) then you’re not worthy of any settlement.
 
Oh nooo those horrible developers. Won’t someone please think of the giant corporations and protect them from the tyranny of those one-person companies that make $1,000 a year?

> post is about feature that would benefit end users

> robo reply complains about corporations

:rolleyes:
 
And if you’re not in the US (aka centre of the universe) then you’re not worthy of any settlement.

Why should a lawsuit filed and litigated in the U.S. be applicable in other countries? You must think your country is the "centre of the universe" and everything that happens elsewhere must also apply there.
 
My late father worked with a Law Professor whose surname was Cheatem. Thinking about it, he might have been an accountant - still holds true though 😂
He might be related to the lawyer who also worked with Dewey and Howe.
 

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Sure seems like they should get rid of the "opt out" policy then...

The same policy that prevents some popular iOS apps from running on macOS. Almost nothing changed for Mac’s since most of the devs of the apps I use opted out.
 
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So you think developers should be forced to provide apps for up to 6 people and only get the income for one purchase with no say in the matter?
Yes. For subscriptions, especially the expensive ones, I'd say yes. Take Zero (fasting app). It's pretty galling to expect a married couple to spend $140 /yr. I don't recall this being a noticeable problem until fairly recently, but it's really not clear when you subscribe in-app whether family sharing is supported or not and it's easy to assume that it is, because a large majority do support it. IMO there should be a max subscription price if a dev wants to opt out. Short of that, the app store guidelines should strictly enforce a very obvious disclosure at the time of purchase.
 
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I wish they would allow individual family members to buy stuff with their own cards instead of it ending up on the organisers card.
 
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Why should a lawsuit filed and litigated in the U.S. be applicable in other countries? You must think your country is the "centre of the universe" and everything that happens elsewhere must also apply there.
You’re right, it’s a US lawsuit. However if Apple acknowledge (or it has been proven) they have wronged their users, why not settle with all that are affected - isn’t that the right thing to do? Though, I accept that’s probably a stretch to expect it, especially if litigation is US specific.
 
You’re right, it’s a US lawsuit. However if Apple acknowledge (or it has been proven) they have wronged their users, why not settle with all that are affected - isn’t that the right thing to do? Though, I accept that’s probably a stretch to expect it, especially if litigation is US specific.

Different countries may have different laws regarding these types of things. While Apple agreed to settle the case, they haven't acknowledged they did anything wrong. Apple can only potentially settle or agree to something if a case has been brought against them. No one, that I know of, outside the U.S. has made a claim against Apple about this.
 
Well they’ve got tons of developers locked into those opt out agreements that are bringing in revenue for Apple, so if they pull the rug out they’ll just get sued from the other side.
Contracts can be renegotiated. Especially now that Apple has had to pay out to solve this issue, they can put pressure on devs to agree.
 
The same policy that prevents some popular iOS apps from running on macOS. Almost nothing changed for Mac’s since most of the devs of the apps I use opted out.
The entire macOS vs iOS vs iPadOS ecosystem ******** needs to change. Why can't I run the same apps on all three devices? Why can't I run macOS on an iPad?
 
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