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You are correct. Apple does sell power adapters. Apple should give new iPhone buyers the option of a free adapter if they want one. If carbon neutral is so important why give the consumer the option of purchasing a less expensive, less environmentally safe product.

Apple cares mostly about their own carbon footprint. Giving people free or cheap chargers will increase both Apple's carbon footprint and the total carbon footprint.

The logic is that when something becomes more expensive, fewer people will buy it thus fewer will bli produced and less carbon will be released.

Apple believes in this inequality:

Carbon emission by producing and shipping power adapters with iPhones < carbon emission producing and shipping power adapters bought by customers buying iPhones
 
If it is important to you, buy power adapters from Apple or other vendors who are carbon neutral.

If you don't care you can buy power adapters from anyone.

Why give consumers the option?

Do you even hear yourself?
What don’t you understand?

Apple could give the consumer the option of free adapter with the purchase of a new phone. You could pick it up at the store, or have it shipped with minimal packaging. Going to the store would often result in additional purchases.

Giving the consumer the option of purchasing an adapter from another vendor such as Amazon is not helping the environment. Many times, my Amazon purchases arrive in boxes 3 times larger than necessary.

I am an Apple user and have many of their products. I just do not like the stance they are taking on this.
 
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If only Apple products are as durable as they advertise in the Environmental Page

They keep talking about the Durability test and Reliability Lab, yet all it takes for an iPhone to crack is just a simple drop on the ground.... sigh
 
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Well, before touting the environmental impact and contribution, how about designing a device that last long and use safe materials and such? Isn’t landfill issue need to be addressed as well? Or people are ok with eating toxic compounds being carried over through food chain from a landfill located in another continent? What’s apples contribution on that one?
 
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sadly, there are still way too many people, especially in positions of authority and power who refuse to accept climate damage as real.
Let the doom of the world tell them nature is above all of us. :( And we human are NOT the god they Try to tell us.
 
Well, before touting the environmental impact and contribution, how about designing a device that last long and use safe materials and such? Isn’t landfill issue need to be addressed as well? Or people are ok with eating toxic compounds being carried over through food chain from a landfill located in another continent? What’s apples contribution on that one?
While Apple's devices last a very long time compared to most other products I've used (personal experience here) - I don't doubt for a second that they could last a lot longer if they actually wanted but that wouldn't make business sense I imagine. Companies are in the business of making $ - getting people hooked on xyz product. I'm sure a modular upgradeable, not as thin laptop that has replaceable parts would be the best for the environment but I doubt it would sell well despite you and me buying. :(

I visit my wife's university and see college professors and some students using very old MacBooks with no intention of replacing them anytime soon. I know the resale value of my Apple products is high - even after years of usage. These things get used really well.

Is there room for VAST improvement? Definitely. Small consistent steps forward. I love how the M1 sips electricity. We've got a long ways to go tho.
 
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If only Apple products are as durable as they advertise in the Environmental Page

They keep talking about the Durability test and Reliability Lab, yet all it takes for an iPhone to crack is just a simple drop on the ground.... sigh
My last few iPhones have survived drops that my iPhone 5 didn't survive. I think most people utilize a massive cases these days tho. The only iPhone I've ever dropped and broke was an iPhone 4s or 5, I can't remember. Haven't shattered a screen since personally.
 
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Well, before touting the environmental impact and contribution, how about designing a device that last long and use safe materials and such? Isn’t landfill issue need to be addressed as well? Or people are ok with eating toxic compounds being carried over through food chain from a landfill located in another continent? What’s apples contribution on that one?
Seeing landfills is a slap in the face to anyone who thinks we're environmentally friendly. It's horrific the amount of trash we generate... the amount of waste created. Great point - this stuff gets into ground water, back into the environment.

Love your signature.
 
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While Apple's devices last a very long time compared to most other products I've used (personal experience here) - I don't doubt for a second that they could last a lot longer if they actually wanted but that wouldn't make business sense I imagine. Companies are in the business of making $ - getting people hooked on xyz product. I'm sure a modular upgradeable, not as thin laptop that has replaceable parts would be the best for the environment but I doubt it would sell well despite you and me buying. :(

I visit my wife's university and see college professors and some students using very old MacBooks with no intention of replacing them anytime soon. I know the resale value of my Apple products is high - even after years of usage. These things get used really well.

Is there room for VAST improvement? Definitely. Small consistent steps forward. I love how the M1 sips electricity. We've got a long ways to go tho.
Well, it will eventually end up being whether Apple wants to actually do real contribution to the environment or not, not those token actions like building solar panels or going so-called “carbon neutral”. What I see for most mega companies (including Apple) nowadays is they just want to pocket every single penny of profit while disregarding everything else. Its not like those shareholders would do their fair share to protect the planet either, given that they prolly would use their money to live in those super advanced underground bunker or something lol.

I keep my close eye on M1 since my current 2014 MacBook Air will eventually break whether I want it or not. If MX processor is powerful enough to do all sort of emulation, I might eventually jump in after a few years. Time will tell.
 
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Well, before touting the environmental impact and contribution, how about designing a device that last long and use safe materials and such? Isn’t landfill issue need to be addressed as well? Or people are ok with eating toxic compounds being carried over through food chain from a landfill located in another continent? What’s apples contribution on that one?
Totally agree. All manufacturers should be doing the above and believe Apple is leading the pack in that regard.
 
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Also to the point - why provide a usb-c to lightning cable when they know that a large percentage of iPhone owners don't have a usb-c adapter to use it with?
Because it’s a cable that’s “more future proofed” than usb-a to lightning and no matter what apple did MR posters would criticize/question the decision?
 
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Because it’s a cable that’s “more future proofed” than usb-a to lightning and no matter what apple did MR posters would criticize/question the decision?
So in your opinion we should keep the proprietary lightning cable as opposed to the industry-adopted standard of USB-C?

This was nothing more than a cash grab period.
 
So in your opinion we should keep the proprietary lightning cable as opposed to the industry-adopted standard of USB-C?

This was nothing more than a cash grab period.
How loud do you think the outcry would have been had lightning been dropped? My 2 cents says 3-4x louder. I wish my iPhone was USB C. Hopefully next generation of AirPods are USB C as well.
 
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So in your opinion we should keep the proprietary lightning cable as opposed to the industry-adopted standard of USB-C?

This was nothing more than a cash grab period.
How many devices have usb-c vs lightning? I would believe that was a consideration for apple also. (Don’t know if this question can even be answered)
 
How loud do you think the outcry would have been had lightning been dropped? My 2 cents says 3-4x louder. I wish my iPhone was USB C. Hopefully next generation of AirPods are USB C as well.
You'll forgive me when I say I have no sympathy for Apple in this. They started with the, what, 24 pin connector of the iPod (proprietary), then moved to lightning (proprietary). They chose this route and the consumer has been taken for a ride the entire way.
 
You'll forgive me when I say I have no sympathy for Apple in this. They started with the, what, 24 pin connector of the iPod (proprietary), then moved to lightning (proprietary). They chose this route and the consumer has been taken for a ride the entire way.
How has the consumer been taken for a ride? (Apple doesn’t need your sympathy) for iPhones, with hundreds of millions of active devices, it makes sense. A small reliable connector. Maybe for iPads other connectors make sense.
 
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You'll forgive me when I say I have no sympathy for Apple in this. They started with the, what, 24 pin connector of the iPod (proprietary), then moved to lightning (proprietary). They chose this route and the consumer has been taken for a ride the entire way.
No worries, I value your opinion even if I don't agree with it. I appreciate seeing the world through different views.

As an Apple user since the Note 3 (my last Android phone) - I've usually erred on the side of buying my cables from Anker or AmazonBasics(in the past) - I find I'm doing the same with USB C cables today as more and more of my devices are USB C. Because I'm a habitual purchaser of Apple products, my house is full of way too many cables. Every now and then my wife and I will donate a mass of them and power bricks to college students who gladly take them.
 
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