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Yeah. Isn't this what we used to make fun of Android for? Units shipped, instead of units sold?
Feel free to make fun of Reuters 🙂
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Most of you Apple loyalists have to be bots.
lol In the real world, Apple has extremely high rates of customer satisfaction. Actual customers love Apple’s products. The opinions of the Apple-hate crowd aren’t particularly relevant, though it might make them feel better for awhile 🤷‍♂️
 
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Feel free to make fun of Reuters 🙂
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lol In the real world, Apple has extremely high rates of customer satisfaction. Actual customers love Apple’s products. The opinions of the Apple-hate crowd aren’t particularly relevant, though it might make them feel better for awhile 🤷‍♂️

None of you are living in reality and know jack #$% what you're talking about. We never lived through this before and the ride is not over. Not even close......the economic effects are going to be the worse we have seen in our lifetime. Lets bookmark this thread and revisit in 1 year.....then tell me if Apple is rebounding. If they are then it wont be the Apple we know today.
 
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None of you know are living in reality and know jack #$% what you're talking about. We never lived through this before and the ride is not over. Not even close......the economic effects are going to be the worse we have seen in our lifetime. Lets bookmark this thread and revisit in 1 year.....then tell me if Apple is rebounding. If they are then it wont be the Apple we know today.
And given what you just said, it's difficult to know how things will recover. It may take 6 months or 6 years. If Apple doesn't rebound, there will be other companies in the same boat as Apple.
 
And given what you just said, it's difficult to know how things will recover. It may take 6 months or 6 years. If Apple doesn't rebound, there will be other companies in the same boat as Apple.
This goes for all companies. Don't get me wrong...i love apple products but im not blind to logic.
 
These companies care Zero about anyone who posts here so why some have some kind of bizarre need to defend multi billion dollar companies...is beyond weird.

I can’t speak for other posters or any particular competitor’s practices, though some companies have been known to stuff the channel (with product that later gets rebated after being sold in “two-fer” deals).

But I haven’t seen anyone arguing about overstated android shipments for years. I do have hundreds of trolls blocked though, so I might’ve missed those posts. Feel free to link them and I’ll comment.
 
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These companies care Zero about anyone who posts here so why some have some kind of bizarre need to defend multi billion dollar companies...is beyond weird.

Yes, Apple has an incredibly high rate of customer satisfaction. Yes, Apple elicits a tremendous amount of passion and loyalty from their customers. And yes, that seems to infuriate customers of competing products.

Oh well, they’ll live. With a lot of anger, frustration and upset, sure... but they’ll live 🤷‍♂️
 
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Yet that exact opposite rationale is often set forth on here when competitors cite shipment data. As though there are warehouses full of unsold Galaxy phones.

The issue here is that different vendors interpret and report shipment data differently.

For Apple, units shipped equate units actually sold (or at least very close to it). This works because Apple tends to have more insight into their sales volume, thanks to their Apple stores and stronger relationship with retailers. Not to mention Apple controls the underlying OS, so they will know when a new device has been activated (implying it has been sold).

For Samsung, they are strong at distribution, in that they are able to quickly push out a new product to many countries in short order. However, the problem is that they often have little clue on how many of their smartphones have been bought by consumers, because they are reliant on mobile carriers for sales data.

We see this in the way Samsung kept revising their sales number of galaxy folds downwards, from 1 million, to 400-500 thousand, and I am betting the final number is probably less than 200 thousand. The reason for this is simple - Samsung simply has no idea.

So Samsung knows very well how many phones they have produced (why wouldn’t they), which equates to number shipped, but not so much about how many phones have actually been purchased by consumers. For all we know, they really could be sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

That’s the difference. The lack of a common standard when it comes to reporting units shipped. For Apple, units shipped - units sold. For Samsung, not necessarily.

These companies care Zero about anyone who posts here so why some have some kind of bizarre need to defend multi billion dollar companies...is beyond weird.

My rationale is very simple.

Right is right, even if it means I am speaking up in favour of a soulless, faceless company or somebody that I don’t like.

Wrong is wrong, even if the subject in question is my good friend.

I speak up for Apple (most of the time) not because I have some uncontrollable urge to defend a trillion-dollar company or that I am in their pocket (I can only say ‘I wish’), but because I simply feel that their arguments don’t hold water.

If your friend or family member were to share a piece of fake news via WhatsApp or try to perpetuate an erroneous piece of information (like using toothpaste to soothe a burn), you would point that out. I am just doing the same when it comes to any discussion here on Apple. Arguments are made, I happen to not agree with them based on my own understanding of how Apple works, and so I speak up.
 
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Apple has never cared about quantity when profitability is a more important metric.
 
Slightly off topic: Whatever happened to the "imminent" release of the new iPhone SE?
A couple og weeks ago it was all the rage; but now total silence!
 
None of you are living in reality and know jack #$% what you're talking about. We never lived through this before and the ride is not over. Not even close......the economic effects are going to be the worse we have seen in our lifetime. Lets bookmark this thread and revisit in 1 year.....then tell me if Apple is rebounding. If they are then it wont be the Apple we know today.
Why did you quote my post? Feel free to post whatever you want, but there’s no point quoting me when your post has nothing whatsoever to do with mine.
 
There are circumstances for Apple that without enough quantity from sales means profitability will be a disaster for the company.
Obviously, neither extreme is desirable, but I think the point is that Apple has found a happy middle ground where they are able to sell their products in the quantities they want, at the margins they desire, and get to maximise profit in the process.
 
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