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Apple should do something about their 17 inch laptop lineup

There has always been the vocal minority (mostly forum users) who want the 17" to come back, but the reality is that Apple never sold enough of them for it to make any sense, hence why they axed it in 2012. It will never come back, especially now that the trend for mobile devices is for them to get thinner and smaller.

Also, the 15" has more resolution than the last 17" that was made.
 
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No one sells a lot of 17" laptops anymore so Apple is unlikely to ever make one when demand is so low.
 
It used to be that Apple tailored its products for creative professionals hence making the product like a 17-inch MacBook Pro.

These days, Apple is all about selling the slickest-looking products to the consumers hence making the product like a 12-inch MacBook with terrible keyboard and a single port.

If you look at the big picture, it all makes sense.
 
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poematik13 said:
There has always been the vocal minority (mostly forum users) who want the 17" to come back, but the reality is that Apple never sold enough of them for it to make any sense, hence why they axed it in 2012. It will never come back, especially now that the trend for mobile devices is for them to get thinner and smaller.

Also, the 15" has more resolution than the last 17" that was made.
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I had a 17 and loved it. The reason they didn't sell well is because they were two expensive for the average user to justify.

The 15 has more resolution but that's not really a fair comparison as you're talking current vs old. If the 17 ever came back which it won't. The resolution would be way higher
 
tubeexperience said:
It used to be that Apple tailored its products for creative professionals hence making the product like a 17-inch MacBook Pro.

These days, Apple is all about selling the slickest-looking products to the consumers hence making the product like a 12-inch MacBook with terrible keyboard and a single port.

If you look at the big picture, it all makes sense.
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i dont get it, can a professional product not also be slick looking? Why do you insist to keep the two apart?
 
why is it that the rMBP 15" becomes a weak consumer level product whenever the 17" gets brought up?

if you want screen real estate you can run at native res and suddenly you have 4 times the real estate of the pre-Retina 15".
 
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PKBeam said:
why is it that the rMBP 15" becomes a weak consumer level product whenever the 17" gets brought up?

if you want screen real estate you can run at native res and suddenly you have 4 times the real estate of the pre-Retina 15".
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The mistake you make is to think that somehow resolution is the same thing as screen real estate.
 
tubeexperience said:
The mistake you make is to think that somehow resolution is the same thing as screen real estate.
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google "15" MacBook Pro Retina native res". four times the space of the pre retina 15" MBP.
eyes hurt too much? set it to an intermediate res between 1440x900 and 2880x1800.

Don't think some apps like it too much but regardless, I heavily doubt the knowledgable majority of people with 15" rMBPs will be that frustrated at Apple for not giving them an extra two inches.
 
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PKBeam said:
google "15" MacBook Pro Retina native res". four times the space of the pre retina 15" MBP.
eyes hurt too much? set it to an intermediate res between 1440x900 and 2880x1800.
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Since the iPhone 6 Plus has almost the same screen resolution as a 17-inch MacBook Pro, the former must be a good substitute for the later. /sarcasm

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Don't think some apps like it too much but regardless, I heavily doubt the knowledgable majority of people with 15" rMBPs will be that frustrated at Apple for not giving them an extra two inches.
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That's just an excuse.

Argument from analogy:

"Why isn't Siri on Mac OS X?"
"I doubt that the majority of people would want Siri on Mac OS X anyway."

"iPhone 4 has such a small screen. Why don't Apple make phones with bigger screen?"
"I doubt that people will be frustrated at Apple for not giving a couple of extra inches anyway."
 
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They did do something about it they stopped making it. Whatever the reasons they don't make one and that is unlikely to change.
 
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16" MacBook with same footprint, more screen real estate. I'll post my picture again.

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And no, this isn't about the Pro becoming a laptop with just one port and Core M processors, but rather a slightly slicker version of the current Pro with the new screen size (and fast processors, fans, ports and the like).
 
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The Unindicted Co-Conspirator hasn't upgraded her 17" MacBook Pro since she bought it in 2009. Like some of the writers on this thread, she was inordinately fond of the 17" machine. Unlike some of the writers here, she hasn't sworn an solemn oath upon the altar of our household gods that she will never buy another Apple laptop until they repent their folly and produced another wide screen model. That's just silly. Laptops aren't just about hardware specs, they're also about the software that runs on them. No one has produced an operating system that's less obtrusive and easier to use than OS X, and it's unlikely anyone ever will.
 
mikecalderone said:
I am tired of people that are saying this:
"Also, the 15" has more resolution than the last 17" that was made".

They don't understand that a rMBP 17" would squash a rMBP 15"
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Exactly. And you know what else? Try working all day on 15" glossy MBP and then the next day use a 17" MBP with antiglare screen. I did. I tried both in 2009. That is why I'm a believer and proud owner of the 17" MBP.
 
baypharm said:
Exactly. And you know what else? Try working all day on 15" glossy MBP and then the next day use a 17" MBP with antiglare screen. I did. I tried both in 2009. That is why I'm a believer and proud owner of the 17" MBP.
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The new screens have a bery good anti glare coating your little test is 7 years out of date.
 
mikecalderone said:
They don't understand that a rMBP 17" would squash a rMBP 15"
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Perhaps, but the fact remains that apple made its decision, and no matter how much gripping folks do here in this thread, it won't change that fact.
 
Yep, maflynn, the folks who are waitin' for a new 17" MacBook Pro are gonna be waitin' a L-O-N-G time!
 
baypharm said:
Yes, as others have said this subject has been discussed at length. And usually I contribute my 2 cents. Once again, I will say I will never buy another MB or MBP unless it is a 17" antiglare. When my 2009 model bites the dust, I will spend the $7200 USD and purchase the Venom Blackbook X, which is a Windows based machine, but at least it has the specs I can only dream of in a MBP. I would gladly pay Apple $10,000 USD for a MBP equivalent to the Blackbook X.
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In those seven years so much has changed with the rMBP line up. I, too, was a 17" 'only' until 2012. I kept my 2011 17", JIC ...but - 4 month later I realized I'd not used, turned on or updated my 17". I understand the glare concern, though Apple's done a LOT to negate the effect of mirroring yet keep the positives that everyone enjoys from a vibrant, accurate and dynamic display with HiDPI, pin sharp resolution.

Others have mentioned it, displays externally are well priced today, even the 4K displays. If your display is of concern a couple hundred bucks will get you Anti- Glare 1080p, while under a thousand dollar price tag provides dozens of options including 4K/AG.

As an aside I've owned the 2012 15"/16/768 since release and it's as quick and trouble free since day one 3 ½ years ago. I picked the 2015 15"/16/1TB @ Best Buy on a Christmas sale for nearly $600 off. It was on sale $400 off. If you spent over a thousand you got a hundred off your choice of purchase and a hundred dollar gift card. Apple wanted/wants $3199 for the same rig ...and I'm satisfied with the incredible speed of its storage, AMD's card saves me a LOT of time using After Effects, transcoding ...other facets of video and audio editing are wickedly quick. I've also a 27" display as a 'dock' at the home and studio that also allows for thunderbolt to Ethernet wired.

My cent and a ½. I'd never spend 10k on any computer, so perhaps we won't see eye to eye but the 27" iMac @ 5K is a helluva machine. You can spend $10k on a Mac Pro and while I'm ignorant to the machine you're considering, the opposite is true when it comes to the 15" rMBPs.

The transition itself in 2012 was enough to reinvigorate my interest in 'hobby' computing again rather than just using a 'work' console while at work.

Ymmv, but IMHO, which should certainly be taken as pure guessing ...we won't see any 17" models again. Never know. Enough screamed and through tantrums about 4.7" -- now Apple is supposedly going to cater to them

Problem with our desire, we aren't the majority and larger than 13" computers are becoming rarer and rarer by the day.

Have you played w/15" rMBP? You're able to scale it up to 1920x1200 ...the resolution I've always used on mine. And coincidentally, it matches the rez of the 17". Less real estate for those pixels is negated by its intense clarity and high resolution as well as its scaling algorithms - an issue still in play on Win 10 with legacy software (I'm ambidextrous and again, IMHO, the rMBP is the best Windows machine on the market as well ;) -- we've got a couple of Win boxes and it's up to you your pocket book and needs ...as far as I'm concerned, Windows is a weird place right now sharing the OS with phones, tabs and consoles as well as X86 hardware seems a bit over the top. Time will tell and 10 is much better than 8.1.

Good luck though, as four top spec'd rMBPs may make more sense than a ten thousand dollar one that'll run Windows and depreciate quickly in price and relevance as all tech does
 
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