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I see a lot of Android phones which highly resistant to damage with drops. Looks like a combination of plastics and epoxy's.

Someone said Apple uses the fragility of its Iphone as another revenue stream.

Having said all that I have not handled the latest XR. Another thing I can not afford. I do have a 6s Plus, which I could afford only because of a sale at Wal Mart, surely because Apple is phasing it out. I bought a OtterBox case for it, which makes it ungainly to handle. I also bought the OtterBox case at WalMart, and suspect it is a counterfeit.

Perhaps Jony Ives leaving Apple will lead to more useful dependable products from Apple.
 
iPhone 5C’s failure stops Apple from using any sort of plastic whatsoever. Then, they never look back.
I was expecting people to react more drastically for Ive’s departure. But not so much, other than “bring back Frostall” which might never happen.
On the other hand, because iPhone is more fragile, people tend to pay more attention to it and protect it more actively, leading to a device that lasts longer than the android counterpart.
 
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I see a lot of Android phones which highly resistant to damage with drops. Looks like a combination of plastics and epoxy's.

Someone said Apple uses the fragility of its Iphone as another revenue stream.

Having said all that I have not handled the latest XR. Another thing I can not afford. I do have a 6s Plus, which I could afford only because of a sale at Wal Mart, surely because Apple is phasing it out. I bought a OtterBox case for it, which makes it ungainly to handle. I also bought the OtterBox case at WalMart, and suspect it is a counterfeit.

Perhaps Jony Ives leaving Apple will lead to more useful dependable products from Apple.

Always handle your phone with the Kung Fu grip. No matter what phone or case.
 
Otterbox released this slim line of cases called the symmetry series. Was pretty cheap on Amazon. Maybe see if they make them for your phone.
 
If the flimsiness of the plastic wasn’t enough, Apple is emphasising the recyclability of their products at every keynote. The glass and the aluminium they use is highly recyclable.

3G and 3GS were plastic and Apple was swapping phones left and right under warranty because of the breaking of the housing around the connectors. 5C wasn’t a success either.
 
Perhaps Jony Ives leaving Apple will lead to more useful dependable products from Apple.

This is kind of a weird quote on your behalf. Apple products have always been _useful and dependable_ in the same context, Jony Ive leaving is it going to change Apples trajectory with their product quality and durability. They’ve always been known for their quality hardware standards over the years, Jony Ive doesn’t determine that, Apples reputation overall does.
 
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Would wireless charging work if it were plastic? I think only the cheaper Android devices that don't support wireless charging use plastic.
 
I really dislike the Android OS. It looks like it was created from the very beginning to spy on me. It wastes a lot my connection with updating itself, backing up my data (another resource for spying.) The humor of all that is, trying to target ads for poor people is not a smart use of resources. Spying on poor people is not likely to generate high profit sales, but maybe a lot of sales in some areas. I realize they do it because it is cheap, and the user is helping to subsidize spying. Yes, selling even one item to a huge number of poor people is profitable, although the financially better off can afford more expensive, profitable items. I still avoid installing some Apps on my Iphone because they are part of the same mentality of first watching me, to send me targeted advertising. Surveillance Capitalism.

Still, I live in a place where a lot of people are farmers and ranchers. They carry the Android device because of their durability. As I see it, the Aluminum case of the Apple is not so flexible, and helps to cause screen breakage. It is an issue I think Apple has ignored. If Jony helped to create the beautiful Iphone, that so easily breaks, costing extra money to fix, then yeah. If nothing else, Apple should take notice of the sales volume Samsung has made in the market with their phones that are more durable, and with the latest, more expensive Android phones, less annoying with their resource stealing. Yes my original comment was about the Android phones which cost less than a hundred. Same principle.

It is annoying that to have a durable case outside my iphone I can not put it in my pocket, when the Iphones themselves are so thin. and yes, pretty to look at.
 
Would wireless charging work if it were plastic? I think only the cheaper Android devices that don't support wireless charging use plastic.

Plastic works great on wireless charging.
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Have you ever seen an iPhone with a case on a wireless charger?


Yes, my MAX rests gently on my wireless charger in it’s Sedio case!

Work perfectly.
 
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Would wireless charging work if it were plastic? I think only the cheaper Android devices that don't support wireless charging use plastic.
My last non iPhone (Nokia Lumia 930) had a plastic back specifically to facilitate wireless charging. In that case it was actually a really nice soft-touch matte polycarbonate, which didn't feel cheap so I actually wouldn't mind if Apple experimented with something similar. Particularly if it helped reduce the thickness of the future XR models. I really don't like the sort of hard/ shiny plastic used for the 3G/S and 5C though. I guess it might help a bit with durability too?
 
Well I can’t speak for the Xs or Xs Max, but the Xr in a Caudabe clear case is a tough little somebody and still remains slender and looks almost caseless.

We got one for my teenager for an early graduation gift so she could have it in time for a big class trip. She tripped on some stairs and her phone survived the fall down a flight of concrete stairs, bouncing all the way down. I love my Samsung S10+ but know it couldn’t survive a drop like that. Her phone and mine have also taken some other hits at home, with no damage except to the tempered glass display protectors. And both phones survive in backpacks and purses and on hikes.

We had also bought my sister-in-law an Xr and the same Caudabe case as well as a wallet case. So far the Xr has survived her and still looks new. That’s a miracle. My teenager and I do at least try to take care of our phones, despite our both being disaster prone due to coordination and balance issues. My sister-in-law doesn’t even try. She’s got a short fuse and is hell on phones. Though I suspect she takes better care with this one since it was gifted new to her.
 
They carry the Android device because of their durability. As I see it, the Aluminum case of the Apple is not so flexible, and helps to cause screen breakage. It is an issue I think Apple has ignored.

This is a really bad argument and backed by nothing. FTR, I’ve never even heard of this happening, (And I’ve read plenty of threads on here, never heard of this occurring.) The 7000 Series aluminum is _not_ meant to be flexible, but yet lightweight and plenty durable. The display and aluminum chassis is more durable/and even in some cases, is more durable over the glass backs on the 8/XS iPhones. Apple hasn’t ignored anything, one of the reasons Apple switched to glass, is because the aluminum chassis isn’t conducive for wireless charging.
 
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Plastics are probably more durable but it won't feel the same as aluminum and glass. Part of the reasons why I don't go for Android bc they all look so cheap to me.
 
I see a lot of Android phones which highly resistant to damage with drops. Looks like a combination of plastics and epoxy's.

Someone said Apple uses the fragility of its Iphone as another revenue stream.

Having said all that I have not handled the latest XR. Another thing I can not afford. I do have a 6s Plus, which I could afford only because of a sale at Wal Mart, surely because Apple is phasing it out. I bought a OtterBox case for it, which makes it ungainly to handle. I also bought the OtterBox case at WalMart, and suspect it is a counterfeit.

Perhaps Jony Ives leaving Apple will lead to more useful dependable products from Apple.

I think it's more of handling issues. I'm using an Android for my personal use and an iPhone for my work. Both of them are now on their 2nd year -- alive and kicking.
 
Apple should in no way mimic Android phones, though Android phone sellers would no doubt love to see less differentiation.

+1 Caudabē, I’ve had 2 Sheaths, a nice balance of protection and thinness. I think that they currently have a sale on, and frequently have sales.
 
... Still, I live in a place where a lot of people are farmers and ranchers. They carry the Android device because of their durability.

My guess is that they carry Android phones because unlike Apple products, they can be dirt cheap to replace when a rugged lifestyle destroys them. If you need cheap replacements on a regular basis, that’s one area many Android devices would have a advantage over Apple.
 
Why would Apple mimic the Android manufacturers?

It’s actually the other way around. Android manufacturers tried to mimic Apple until they weren’t about to figure out how Apple crafted a device with such precision at a cost they were able to afford.
 
I’m personally waiting for a pure carbon fiber unibody edge to edge phone

I don't think there's any energy efficient large scale carbon fibre recycling anywhere in the world right now which means Apple for sure won't be touching it for the foreseeable future.

Shame, because it an incredible material. Just not very environmentally friendly, especially if you look at the waste from cf molds, and that's what matters most right now.
 
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