As soon as they release this, there are going to be legions of people screaming "waaa it's far too small waaa, Apple has lost its way" etc etc
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Apple should make some sort of adapter where pro iPhones can display macOS when hooked up to it, making your iPhone a true all encompassing device
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Alternatively, just click on the URL in my signature where it says 'Six Displays'.
They won’t even let an iPad run a real OS! How would they ever allow cannibalization like that? I think whatever company makes the first all-in-one device is the one that wins. Not the company that makes an ecosystem of products that proprietarily work together in an anti-competitive state to stifle competition and maximize shareholder value so Tim Crook can get rich. First kick out all the competition. Second make the shareholders understand value. Third don’t care about the long-term bad will against customers and focus only on maximizing profits now. It’s not capitalism. It’s anti-competitive capitalism.
Eventually, we will wear a pair of glasses then have contacts lasered onto our eyes that do everything any device could do; then one day we will just embed our brains in a matrix and realize there is no spoon (computer).
The only issue I see with “whichever company makes it first” is you have Apple and android. However android doesn’t have a desktop environment aside from some chromebooks that I don’t even know if they make them.
The other major player is windows. And I know Microsoft tried already but I highly doubt it was the full service I am envisioning.
Its as „strange“ as people using a MB in clamshell mode. Or a mini. With the benefit of having to buy only one device.
Btw its only one usbC cable to a monitor. Like charging your phone. The keyboard and trackpad are usually connected to the monitor.
The rest of your concerns is only software which can be solved
I saw you ran out of room on the displays, so you brought in a pocket watch to tell the time. True class...
I am always curious as to what people consider a 'real' operating system. The ability to natively decompress 7z files, tinker with the update URL direction or something equally as obtuse?
I won't deny its fun to tinker with MacOS, particularly better, older versions. But there is also very little that I cannot do on an iPad Pro and I use it for a lot of broad, niche things that to use a desktopOS for would require an extra $5000 of equipment on top of the computer itself.
I mean, a Macbook Pro cannot even create 3D area scans for Twinmotion or film experiments at 120 degrees in 4K without any additional hardware. How is that even a real computer?
Since iPads don't get MacOS, it's even less likely that iPhones will get MacOS.
It's the future we're all dreaming of- when the phone all the computing power we need (which it basically does now). But for... reasons... it's not going to happen for another decade at least.
How about hiding an ad on a video by putting it behind a window of another webpage?I am always curious as to what people consider a 'real' operating system. The ability to natively decompress 7z files, tinker with the update URL direction or something equally as obtuse?
I won't deny its fun to tinker with MacOS, particularly better, older versions. But there is also very little that I cannot do on an iPad Pro and I use it for a lot of broad, niche things that to use a desktopOS for would require an extra $5000 of equipment on top of the computer itself.
I mean, a Macbook Pro cannot even create 3D area scans for Twinmotion or film experiments at 120 degrees in 4K without any additional hardware. How is that even a real computer?
How about having 3 Pages documents open at the same time?
Or any kind of spreadsheet work done in, you know, an office setting? Name 1 company using iPads for their payroll and accounting teams.
Different tools mean different things to different people. I imagine a chef wouldn't want to use my swiss army knife in his kitchen but I wouldn't want to take his ultra sharp 12" meat cleaver camping
Both have merits depending on the job but neither is a lesser product because of it.
This:
Different tools mean different things to different people. I imagine a chef wouldn't want to use my swiss army knife in his kitchen but I wouldn't want to take his ultra sharp 12" meat cleaver camping
And I’ll quote the November 21, 2024 issue of CNET Insider:
I don't want macOS on a touch device. That design pattern would have terrible consequences for the real desktop experience (see Windows 8).
That said, we NEED true data management capabilities on iPadOS/iOS. Give me a terminal, a real file manager, access to system files, and the ability to install any software I like, and I'll be happy. (Listing it out like this makes it sound like a lot, but it's really not.)
That said, we NEED true data management capabilities on iPadOS/iOS. Give me a terminal, a real file manager, access to system files, and the ability to install any software I like, and I'll be happy. (Listing it out like this makes it sound like a lot, but it's really not.)
Spot-on. I can dream.
In other words, you want a jailbroken iPhone/iPad. With Apple's blessing.
I object to the word "jailbroken".
Having used jailbroken phones for years, I do not object to the term. People think there is something illicit about the term, but it comes from UNIX.
Secondly, if you're in the USA, every seven years the Congressional Librarian has decreed that jailbroken devices are an exception to the DMCA. So, there's nothing 'illegal' about it.
Third, some people see it as 'breaking out of Apple's walled garden'. So, in that context, there's nothing bad about that either.
I see your point. Even so, I'd say "jailbroken" has a pretty negative connotation in common parlance. Same with "sideloading". While not explicitly bad, it still reflects an attitude that we have about smartphones that I dislike. You don't sideload on a "real computer" (a desktop).
I agree, which is why I try to 'educate' (as best I can) whenever I come across that negative viewpoint in the main iPhone forum. I've been here since 2011, and by now my stance is probably well-known. And I believe some probably don't appreciate that 'education' - or at least my opening my mouth about it.
In any case, I will continue to fight against that negativity.
No, it's not because they'd lose a lot of sales in desktops.
It's because in reality, there are not enough users that warrant spending the time and money to make this a thing. You grossly overestimate how many people would actually buy into a product like this.
One of those ideas that sounds cool and futuristic until you actually think about it in daily usage.
I don’t know about most people, but if I’m ever using a computer with a keyboard and a mouse, I’m usually stationary.
Meanwhile, my phone is always portable, wherever I go it goes.
Just imagining the constant plugging and unplugging and re-plugging and unplugging of a massive daisy chain of a keyboard, mouse, display, speaker, webcam and whatever thing we’re using to power the phone so it doesn’t chew through the battery every time I get up from my desk and want to take my phone along…
I think people are also over estimating the thermal envelope of the iPhone, you really think you’re gonna be splicing FinalCut Pro clips one second, then you unplug it, and the thing immediately drops down to the power level of your regular phone again that quickly? No, the thing would be boiling.
And it isn’t even comparable to clamshell mode on a laptop.
Stage manager on the iPad might be a better comparison,but at the end of the day, you are still running iPhone apps off of your iPhone, which is a very different situation than actually having a Mac or PC.
I don’t know about most people, but if I’m ever using a computer with a keyboard and a mouse, I’m usually stationary.
Meanwhile, my phone is always portable, wherever I go it goes.
Just imagining the constant plugging and unplugging and re-plugging and unplugging of a massive daisy chain of a keyboard, mouse, display, speaker, webcam and whatever thing we’re using to power the phone so it doesn’t chew through the battery every time I get up from my desk and want to take my phone along…
I think people are also over estimating the thermal envelope of the iPhone, you really think you’re gonna be splicing FinalCut Pro clips one second, then you unplug it, and the thing immediately drops down to the power level of your regular phone again that quickly? No, the thing would be boiling.
And it isn’t even comparable to clamshell mode on a laptop.
Stage manager on the iPad might be a better comparison,but at the end of the day, you are still running iPhone apps off of your iPhone, which is a very different situation than actually having a Mac or PC.