Dew point is in the humidity section in Apple Weather?Unlike Dark Sky, Apple Weather app = absolutely no way to view the dew point.
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Apple Shuts Down Popular Weather App 'Dark Sky'
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Yeah, Apple Weather is not at all accurate in the UK in my experience.
Quite often I've noticed that it will be raining outside, the radar will show rain but the real time precipitation shows no rain. And vice versa.
The precipitation forecast also doesn't reflect reality. It's almost like the real time precipitation and the forecast come from different sources and are not linked or crosschecked in any way.
You are exactly right, saying it better than I could. I really don't like the gaudy icons and other flourishes on the Apple Weather app. Also, the watch complications don't work for me.
I'm currently using Forecast Bar. With it I can see the current outside temperature on my Mini's menu bar (almost as good as Windows), and it has much better watch complications.
I've heard a lot of good things about Carrot Weather, but I haven't tried it; sounds too complicated. For me simple is better.
I've been using Dark Sky since long before Apple bought it. Apple's actions are an affront to all of us longtime users.
RIP Dark Sky. Apple bought, pillaged and ultimately made a worse product under their own name.
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Just paid for carrot weather and used the ‘inline theme’ which looks exactly the same as dark Sky but slightly different colours. Works well enough.
The dark sky api is producing different results to the Apple weather api. I hope Apple looks at this and compares the results to actual forecast. It’s all so sloppy.
Sadly most of the data for WeatherKit doesn’t come from the Dark Sky API - that’s why they’re so different.
It comes from a cluster of sources - I suspect the only one related to Dark Sky is real time precipitation.
It’s clearly a design choice so don’t hold your breath on it being fixed.
Details of the data sources here:
support.apple.com
It comes from a cluster of sources - I suspect the only one related to Dark Sky is real time precipitation.
It’s clearly a design choice so don’t hold your breath on it being fixed.
Details of the data sources here:
Feature availability and data sources in the Weather app – Apple Support (UK)
Find out more about regional availability and data sources for features in the Weather app.
The weather app is less intuitive and requires more steps to see the same information. Dark Sky’s simplicity was its greatest feature. Why ? Why??
I use WillyWeather, Carrot, Oz Weather, and Rain Parrot. But I’m liking the new Apple Weather update and only use it on my iPad.
Someone help me out; is the Weather app supposed to not suck? I used it last week during snowfall to see how far north the coverage was and Weather showed no snow/precipitation above me (even though I could see copious snow falling outside).
Then I launched the Weather channel app and saw a crap ton of precipitation coverage helping me answer how far it was reaching.
If Apple is supposedly using Dark Skies data, then I guess Dark Skies was never that good?
Then I launched the Weather channel app and saw a crap ton of precipitation coverage helping me answer how far it was reaching.
If Apple is supposedly using Dark Skies data, then I guess Dark Skies was never that good?
Me too!! Apple started my year off with a very bad thing. I had to remove my favorite weather app from my iPhone. Bad Apple!!
Yes Why Why Kill Dark Sky, Aperture, Command R to re-Load all Tabs in a Safari Window etc etc...
I was setting up a brand new shiny M1 MBP for some Friends the other day and System Pref's was an unrecognizable Multi Color mess couldn't find necessary settings as there'd all been moved into some Sub Menu Yuck!
And not like this is my first Rodeo have been on the Mac since the Mac-SE!
RIP Dark Sky
That is neither intuitive nor useful. I cannot see how the dewpoint changes throughout the day as I could on Dark Sky.
didn’t screw up Shazam when they acquired it, why did they do that to Dark Sky?! I also made it the prime weather app on my Apple Watch, and set up a bunch of complications to use it as well, because its data was more straightforward and intuitive than ’s weather app
Isn’t carrot weather subscription-based “rentware”? If it is, I don’t want any part of that.
It's not just with software, it's with everything.
Customer service sucks in todays world, you have to get locked into contracts or licenses for everything, prices continue to rise and for what, less than you got before.
For christ sakes, an iPhone cost $1000 and a new one comes out every year.
Like we had to have that iPhone 14 because the 13 didn't do enough.
and where did the middle class go, its gone.
You have a multi millionaire paying less taxes than a worker at Walmart.
It's all BS and sad.
Corporate greed!
How to squeeze 101 by corporate America..
Curious what use case you have that one would need to see constant changes of the dew point?
Also, as that other commenter said, that information is in the Humidity section. And since humidity and dew point are related, how is that not intuitive or useful?
I have used Dark Sky for years. Even yesterday I was getting alerts for rain on my Apple Watch (6), but I have not been able to get rain alerts for the Apple Weather App, even though I have that enabled.
Have others been able to get the "rain alerts" to work with Apple Weather?
Have others been able to get the "rain alerts" to work with Apple Weather?
Me as well. I live in Scotland and the Apple weather app is utter crap here, and that's no joke because the weather can get dangerous rather quickly, particularly if you do a lot of hiking as I do. People have literally died from weather exposure yards from their front door in the Highlands (rare but true).
My guess is that Dark Sky used data from user reports to make better forecasts. Weather sensors are few and far between, so on-the-spot user reports of the weather can be used to train an algorithm to take distant weather measurements and turn them into accurate local forecasts.
Interestingly, Apple's weather app also has a user facility for submitting local weather reports, so we have two choices:
- 😇 Take responsibility as users and feed Apple accurate data when their dumba$$ forecast is wrong, in the hopes the accurate data will refine their lame forecasting model. This assumes there actually is an active team at Apple trying to refine forecasts, which I doubt.
- 👿 Act like tantruming infants and feed Apple inaccurate data as a protest until they reinstate Dark Sky. Say, always reporting it's sunny with no wind and 72°F.
EDIT: Anybody notice how many newbies posted in this thread? Welcome to MR!
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