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Apple Shutting Down iWork.com on July 31 Amid Transition to iCloud

WhoDaKat said:
Thats fine as long as they get their heads out of their...clouds, and get document handling fixed for iCloud. Great, so I can have my docs in the cloud, if I create them on an iOS device. On my mac, I have to manually upload and download them? Very very very unApple.

If I create a doc in Pages on my mac, it should go to iCloud, unless I tell it not to. It should show up just like if it was created on an iOS device. I'm really not sure why it isn't already like that.
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No doubt coming with Mountain Lion.

In Mountain Lion, several apps (Text Edit and Preview) have "iCloud" as an option in the Save As dialog. And when you open Preview you get a window with the images you have saved in iCloud.

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July seems about right for the ML release.
 
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They axed iDisk, for example, because they're going to be adding a like service to iCloud in Mountain Lion. With iPhoto for iOS, picture publishing has come back - they plan to develop that further. This also was a change only by way of making it more tightly integrated into Apple software. I suspect, and hope to god, that they will do the same thing with iWork.com. With Mountain Lion, iWork docs will auto sync to iCloud. Hopefully by then, the same features from this service will be available in iCloud.

Tighter integration of features - that. is trademark Jobs.
 
daxomni said:
I can't seem to find a transition target for iDisk and iWeb. Guess they just transitioned into nothing?
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Which is ideal. Services like iDisk and DropBox end up making the end user micro-manage their file structure and documents.

Computers should be far better than we are so I'm all for ridding the management of these files from us to the computer and network.
 
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daxomni said:
Consultant said:
It's been a year. That's a long transition.
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I can't seem to find a transition target for iDisk and iWeb. Guess they just transitioned into nothing?
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Transition for iDisk will be a Dropbox-like folder in Mountain Lion that syncs with iCloud.
Transition for iWeb can be previewed in the just-released iPhoto for iOS. It's like a combo between iWeb and Photos from MobileMe. Right now it's only in iOS though.
I suspect Mountain Lion will ultimately amount to the final touches of the MobileMe » iCloud transition.
 
Wishes

Wishes:
iWork functionality moves to iCloud.
Editing becomes possible on iCloud.
Collaboration becomes possible on iCloud.
 
MikeyTree said:
This would be fine, except that iWork for Mac still doesn't sync with iCloud.
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It does in Mountain Lion. With no uploading and downloading required. Just like how contacts and calendars sync across effortlessly between Macs and iOS devices. I think Apple is going in the right direction with iCloud. By the time Mountain Lion is released, MobileMe and iWork.com will both be shutdown leaving ML and all the apps fully focused and integrated with iCloud.
 
Dear Apple,

Not everyone has Lion.

Sincerely,
Your customers

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Seriously, my MBA is owned by my employer, who does not want to upgrade to Lion. Despite my telling them that it's an easy upgrade (and I'll pay for it) they don't want the possible headache of incompatible software.

If apple would make iCloud work with Snow Leopard, this would be acceptable. I mean, iCloud works with Vista for crying out loud.
 
kendals said:
Obviously since you cannot access iWork beta from Pages, Numbers & keynote after July 31st, sounds like an update to remove iWork and add iCloud will FINALLY be coming!
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An update /= a new version.

And yes they are. We were told as much with the mountain lion preview.

What they need is to add a 'public' setting so folks can see your stuff. Which I think they will eventually. The whole Journals in iPhoto for its being the first step
 
Really hope they do enable some kind of public sharing in the future

The thing is, even though I may be a rare power user of iWork (and the public beta), iCloud does not allow you to do anything remotely like this:
http://blog.jochmann.me/keynote-showcase

The idea that Apple would abandon this avenue of pushing their iWork suit become authoring tools for future media runs counter to their recent move of making Keynote files plugins in iBooks Author. So they really are sending mixed messages about where they want to go with iWork in the future.

As I have demonstrated (did some experiments of pushing iWork to its limits), the public beta was just one step short of besting both Google Docs and HTML5 authoring tools through nothing but smart outputs of the existing iWork suite. Imagine putting together interactive web content in Keynote (that used to be able to output to flash, mind you!). The underlying XML architecture would easily allow this.

I really wonder what will become of this, because enabling consumers to easily produce content has been part of Apple's strategy all along. Heck, they willingly alienate their pro users with the recent Final Cut upgrade but they stop helping a consumer produce web content?
 
Is anyone else still displeased with iCloud?

It's so stripped down and not very functional compared to google and more or less ms office
 
nuckinfutz said:
Which is ideal. Services like iDisk and DropBox end up making the end user micro-manage their file structure and documents. Computers should be far better than we are so I'm all for ridding the management of these files from us to the computer and network.
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In a society that places most of the responsibility (and the blame) for protecting your privacy on the part of the consumer, it's not very wise to depend on anyone else to do it for you. The only thing that keeps you from opening absolutely everything in the iCloud is an email address and a relatively tiny password. Whereas with iDisk or Dropbox you can encrypt your files first and not have to worry if Apple gets hacked or sells their access of your folder to someone else.
 
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does iWork even work with the iCloud? never got any of my files from the iPad to sync back to my mac or iphone
 
Hopefully this means that something will be announced at WWDC. I could be wrong, but I'm expecting that this is actually good news in the long term.
 
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Transition for iDisk will be a Dropbox-like folder in Mountain Lion that syncs with iCloud. Transition for iWeb can be previewed in the just-released iPhoto for iOS. It's like a combo between iWeb and Photos from MobileMe. Right now it's only in iOS though. I suspect Mountain Lion will ultimately amount to the final touches of the MobileMe » iCloud transition.
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Personally I don't like the direction that the Lion version have been taking us. Frankly, I wish I had stuck with Snow Leopard since that's pretty much where the focus on backward compatibility seems to have ended for good.
 
I downloaded the iOS versions of Pages & Keynote, assuming that sync would be a launch feature of iCloud. Was kind of surprised when it wasn't & can't believe we have to wait for another new version of OSX for it to happen.

To me, it's on par with RIM launching a Blackberry tablet with no email function. Or does Apple think no-one uses their devices for anything other than listening to music and looking at photos these days?
 
rorschach said:
July seems about right for the ML release.
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According to Apple, Mountain Lion isn't coming till late summer. Probably around September. This would mean that there would be a few months without any type of service for iWork at all. Perhaps in July we will finally get iWork '12, with revamped iWork.com-like features built into icloud.com.
 
Never used it, which is so different form the iCloud which I am not using to store documents so that all my tools can get to them easily. Actually I stopped using MS Office since iWork is working very well for me and I have them on my iPad and iPhone also without a problem.

Good bye iwork.com I like the whole "i work" would have looked good on my business card. :rolleyes:
 
nuckinfutz said:
Which is ideal. Services like iDisk and DropBox end up making the end user micro-manage their file structure and documents.

Computers should be far better than we are so I'm all for ridding the management of these files from us to the computer and network.
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You're right. I would like a document created by any application appear in all of my Macs in the same place. In other words if I right click user/creative/scripts/scifi.docx and select iCloud it should appear at exactly the place in the file structure of my other Macs. The only interaction would be prompt if the file structure needed to be created.
 
mattwolfmatt said:
Dear Apple,

Not everyone has Lion.

Sincerely,
Your customers

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Seriously, my MBA is owned by my employer, who does not want to upgrade to Lion. Despite my telling them that it's an easy upgrade (and I'll pay for it) they don't want the possible headache of incompatible software.

If apple would make iCloud work with Snow Leopard, this would be acceptable. I mean, iCloud works with Vista for crying out loud.
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Apple shouldn't be held back from moving the operating system forward just because some people don't want to upgrade.

Should Microsoft hold back updating Office or Internet Explorer because some companies don't want to upgrade from Windows 98, NT, or XP?
 
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