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No, it’s a sign of your imagination trying to present itself as fact. In order for the above to be true, you would need to show data substationing that statement.
Otherwise, again it’s just your imagination working overtime.

Yeah thinking you're getting something for nothing sounds great, and if all you buy is tennis rackets and electronics, you'll probably never see the difference before the worthless junk you're buying ends up in the ocean landfill anyway. However, when it's a product of consequence, the tables turn. The entire composites industry has been busy compiling the data you're imagining doesn't exist, for decades, and it does substantiate his claims. There is a reason we don't even discuss half the materials and processes we use for fear of incurring the ITAR wrath.

You want top quality workmanship and materials, tight tolerances and rigorous testing, it's going to cost you, and the only countries that see enough demand for it to export it are in europe and north america. It's not that individuals from any other countries in the world aren't capable of it, by any means, it's that at present, the customers for it don't look to those economies to produce it, limiting it to cottage industries with little to no exposure. Russia for instance, sitting on a disproportionately huge supply of the worlds smart people, has produced their own extremely strong/light materials, but 1, they're not spreading them around to begin with, and 2, no one in the world is looking to Russia to produce the best racing bicycle frames that will impress the rest of the worlds top engineers out of the stuff.

If people completely unfamiliar with manufacturing had any idea of how much there is to actually know in order to design, build, test, and produce product, they'd be horrified at how much of a project budget is spent on the production of it, and how much is spent on marketing it. That is why you have an economy and culture that runs on garbage.
 
Something isn’t right about this article. They are quoting 90 cents a square foot. Nothing is that inexpensive. Especially in a hot market like California.

Warehouse space in most major cities runs $0.75-$1.25 psf/mo. You can get it even less if you purchase a year up front. But with the high cost of things in the Bay Area I’m still surprised it’s not at least double what you’d pay elsewhere.
 
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Then why would I buy this? There are much cheaper options trust me! I don’t care about paying for quality.
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The net styling/functionality result is roughly the same. Shiny archaic bobble on arm hair.
 
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While I’ve never had a Mac Pro, I’ve always admired seeing USA on them. It’s a sign of the best quality with no compromises.

It’s like my guitars and amps. When I look at the back of my Mesa Boogie tube head and see handbuilt in Petaluma, California it just makes me feel good. That means that it was put together by proud workers who care about making the beat stuff possible.

Higher production costs are not entirely due to better quality control. Computers are mostly assembled on automated lines. The US has higher production costs than China because of higher energy, real estate and workforce costs.
The cost of living of a US employee is probably 1000x of a Chinese employee doing the same job in Shenzen.

A new factory in California to create some token jobs seems more like a thank you statement to the US Government for having kept Apple Watches and Air Pods exempt from Chinese tariffs...
 
From the article: “...is for a sing-story warehouse facility...”

Well then clearly it’s for custom Apple Music content creation.

Article spelling corrected... theory dead... assuming it's for some assembly, I do like knowing my Mac Pro was put together in the USA (though most of the components are from Asia).

Or maybe 100% Made In The USA watch bands?
 
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If a MacBook Pro suddenly had Designed in California/Assembled in California on it I would pay $1k more. It’s nice to see made in America for a change.

I wouldn't. Besides, the chassis & components will always be made in Asia so essentially it will just be a fancy jigsaw sent from Asia to a bunch of lazy work-shy people to assemble.

For your $1k extra, you'll get shoddily assembled machines as standard. I'll pass on that.
 
Of course not but there would be if they stopped Chinese production. While I’ve never had a Mac Pro, I’ve always admired seeing USA on them. It’s a sign of the best quality with no compromises.

It’s like my guitars and amps. When I look at the back of my Mesa Boogie tube head and see handbuilt in Petaluma, California it just makes me feel good. That means that it was put together by proud workers who care about making the beat stuff possible.

Yeah... no. You are deluding yourself about the "proudness" of the workers. A job is a job, and that's the case in any country. The origin country almost never denotes craftsmanship. It all depends on what a country specializes in. I've had tons of made in USA products last shorter with worse workmanship than those produced overseas. I've also had some made in USA products that was pretty good quality. When it comes to technology though, I would much rather trust Chinese products at the same price point.
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I don’t know you, but sorry I really highly doubt that’s true. If there was an option for the $2500 MacBook assembled in china and then the exact same thing for $3500 assembled in the US, I don’t see you opting for the $3500 model.

Absolutely. A lot of people think they are willing to pay more, but when it's time to buy a product, price competitiveness almost always wins, especially when quality is basically the same. There are tons of startups that focused on only hiring local manufactoring or making environmentally friendly products in the past few years. Almost every single one failed or only got a sliver of a tiny niche in the market. When it comes to consumer behavior, manufacoting in countries with comparative advantage almost always wins.
 
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There is just a short amount of time before before all assembly will be automated and labour costs will be an almost irrelevant part of the manufacturing process. I can see almost all of Apple's manufacturing taking part in the new country of California once it becomes independent from the rest of the US (The last bit was tongue in cheek before someone gets angry.)

There are still supply chain and logistics to think about. When it comes to hardware, China, in addition to its own manufacturing capabilities, is surrounded by Korea and Japan, as well as Taiwan. That gives China an inherient advantage since most of Apple's suppliers are in those countries.
 
Of course not but there would be if they stopped Chinese production. While I’ve never had a Mac Pro, I’ve always admired seeing USA on them. It’s a sign of the best quality with no compromises.

It’s like my guitars and amps. When I look at the back of my Mesa Boogie tube head and see handbuilt in Petaluma, California it just makes me feel good. That means that it was put together by proud workers who care about making the beat stuff possible.

You clearly never owned a BMW Z4 (E85 version). The build quality was appalling and most definitely not "a sign of the best quality with no compromises". Quite the opposite in fact. It's nice to dream, but that doesn't make things true.
 
You clearly never owned a BMW Z4 (E85 version). The build quality was appalling and most definitely not "a sign of the best quality with no compromises". Quite the opposite in fact. It's nice to dream, but that doesn't make things true.

No, you’re right I haven’t. While I’ve liked the Z design language since I saw Goldeneye, the Z cars were never for me. The early Mercedes MLs were maybe even worse. I’m not saying that everything that is expensive never has defects, just that they tend to be superior.
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And the rest of the world would pay 10k more for it

Haha. I hope not! But I do know that prices for American made products tend to be outrageously overpriced abroad. This Mesa guitar amp is was talking about sold for $1900 here and about 3000€ in Europe and that was back when the rate was EUR/USD was around 1.45-1.50.
 
Something isn’t right about this article. They are quoting 90 cents a square foot. Nothing is that inexpensive. Especially in a hot market like California.

That doesn't seem out of whack. Alphabet spent $117M to buy 563K square feet of industrial space outright. Amortize that over 20 years and turn it into a monthly rate, and it's less than $.90/sq ft. It's in the ballpark. Keep in mind this is industrial RE, so the interiors are bare-bones-- it's not like housing rental.
 
is the Apple Car still in existence?
I worked on the Apple Car Design for a Supplier and does not seems to care about the Data being safe
Gave me all Apple Car related data with Confidentiality signature or protecting their Data
they took the design but left all background data and design and much more with me

this will get apple car in trouble if this happened everywhere





Apple has reportedly signed a 10-year lease for nearly 314,000 square feet of industrial manufacturing space in Santa Clara County, California (via Silicon Valley Business Journal).

The agreement between Apple and project developer McCarthy Ranch is for a single-story warehouse facility located at McCarthy Creekside, a new multiphase development in the city of Milpitas, for which Apple is said to be paying around 90 cents per square foot.

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Render depicting corner of 800,000 square foot industrial development in Milpitas

Silicon Valley's vacancy rate was already a miniscule 1.5 percent, but the deal has reportedly made it hit an all-time low of just to 0.7 percent, according to the Journal.
It's not yet clear what Apple's plans are for the industrial space north of San Jose, but developer Joey McCarthy told the Journal that McCarthy Creekside is purpose-built for "industrial, R&D, [and] manufacturing."

Aside from specialist operations like the Mac Pro facility in Austin, Texas, the vast majority of Apple's manufacturing takes place outside of the U.S., which adds an extra layer of intrigue to the company's intentions in Milpitas.

On the other hand, the space could indicate an expansion of Apple's autonomous car project. Apple is believed to be using several Bay Area facilities for its self-driving car research, while McCarthy Creekside is already home to autonomous driving R&D, with a building on the development having been leased to electric vehicle maker SF Motors.

Article Link: Apple Signs Lease for Large Manufacturing Facility in Milpitas, California
 
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