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Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro

ekwipt said:
Why is the Macmini multi core worse than the MacBook Air?
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Could it be that the Mac mini has a lower base Frequency to prevent throttling and hence a lower score? So then the MacBook Air and Pro would be able to peak higher, but after a while would start throttling and then have lower results then the Mac mini? Just wondering.

Sometehing like:
Mac mini M1 > Production Machine > lower base frequency, no throttling
Mac book Air en Pro M1 > User Machines, higher base frequency for gaming, > throttling
 
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magicMac said:
Geekbench 5 just updated for me now to add "support for apple silicon" so i do believe theses scores are native ARM executed version of the tasks, ported over from the iOS geekbench.
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I’m interested to see geekbench results on vm for windows 10 via Rosetta, if the processor claims are correct then a 16” MBP with and M1X or M2 might be good enough to not require bootcamp for most operations?
 
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That is fantastic. I wish the excitement of a new Mac will eventually feel like the "ooh-aah" flowerpot iMac G4 reveal as well. Right now I can't get over the dissonance of jury-rigging a dated computer design with a bonkers rocket engine. But ok, that's just me
 
Karllake said:
I’m interested to see geekbench results on vm for windows 10 via Rosetta, if the processor claims are correct then a 16” MBP with and M1X or M2 might be good enough to not require bootcamp for most operations?
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Depends on the supported hardware virtualisation and if they have something similar to VT-x/VT-d. Else it would be software based virtualisation and emulation of the x86 architecture which would massively slow down the workload.At least to me this is currently a big unknown and could possibly render it useless for my work with docker, VMWare and VirtualBox.
 
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The Game 161 said:
Makes you wonder how powerful the 16 inch MacBook Pro will be with M1
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one can sort of assume they will have a big show for the 16 , most likely pushing the limits of processing power to show off what silicon can really do.

i doubt it will be anything but their gpu though , with alot more cores. too many downsides with amd and nvidia right now.
 
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Nice. Although these are still synthetic tests that you would have to wonder how they would traditionally translate into real world use on a machine like the Air.

We need graphics benchmarks next.

MBP Multicore Slower than the Air though?
 
Nice, but we heard this also about iPad Pro, so let's wait to see real world results. Still, i'm excited about the new Macbooks, and i'm just waiting for MBP 16 to get those chips, or rather M2 probably.
 
jmgregory1 said:
Wow, just imagine what the higher end products are going to deliver. As others are saying, Intel and AMD are going to be scrambling to find a way to get just close to this kind of performance per watt - in the next 12-18 months, which by that time Apple will be at the next level again. I wonder if the PC crowd really understands what Apple has been able to deliver, or if they’ll just be in denial?
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It's incredibly impressive and I think you've called how the next couple of years will pan out accurately. On the PC crowd, at the high end I think most enthusiasts are interested/focussed on gaming, an area where GPU performance is very important & Apple isn't really at the races (yet), so not sure how much they care.
 
I was holding out for a 14" 4 port MBP replacement but with those numbers I am starting to wonder if an Air would be perfect. I really like that idea of fanless design but the power was never there but this thing may change that and put the fanless design in a really nice performance area to make me prefer it. I also am a believer in a desktop and laptop combo so for sustained workloads I would prefer a desktop anyway so the throttling (which I would think would be much less on these anyway but we'll see) wouldn't bug me so much and I know I would prefer it running cooler and size/weight would be a definite bonus when mobile so it becomes a really interesting computer for me.
 
this is the biggest step forward in 10 years in personal computing.
X86 is so dead (for PC)


PS: weird apple has almost 2 identical products as the MBA and the MBP13 almost same price, only difference a fan (and few little tiny details, little more bat, little more bright, little more high, little more weight, little more price…) I guess one of those would be depreciated in 2 years depending on the sales.
 
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Looks good but would love to real world performance - video converting, dealing with massive excel spreadsheets, etc.
 
Karllake said:
I’m interested to see geekbench results on vm for windows 10 via Rosetta, if the processor claims are correct then a 16” MBP with and M1X or M2 might be good enough to not require bootcamp for most operations?
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News flash: Can’t run Windows on these new Macs, period. No boot camp, no VM, no emulation. Even in Rosetta. At least not initially from what I understand. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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The Game 161 said:
Makes you wonder how powerful the 16 inch MacBook Pro will be with M1
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Hopefully it will have more than just 16GB RAM. I am looking forward to some real world test in terms of virtualisation. Without docker and VMWare I wouldn't be able to work with it. This will also be interesting for the guest OS running in the VM. Homebrew and other stuff is a must as well. But maybe Apple will resolve any issues that might pop up in that area and release a redesigned iMac with up to 64GB RAM and a M2 SoC with powerful hardware virtualisation next year. Unfortunately this years iMac will be the last one with user upgradeable RAM...
 
“Am I wrong or the Pro got worse multicore benchmark than the Air??? That's strange, isn't it?”
Its so close that means that test must be done once..make the same teste 3 times in a row to see an sustain load and you will the that the same m1 chip but with some active cooling will score better
 
SimonJHarris said:
On the PC crowd, at the high end I think most enthusiasts are interested/focussed on gaming, an area where GPU performance is very important & Apple isn't really at the races (yet), so not sure how much they care.
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Yeah, when it comes to gaming, Apple silicon is actually a step back.

That's okay for Apple, they're way more interested in renting fun, quirky, ultra casual games with the Arcade to you.

All the "hardcore" games, for lack of a better word, are on x86 (PC, XBox and PS5), and with a new console release just around the corner, that will be the case for a LONG time.
 
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“Makes you wonder how powerful the 16 inch MacBook Pro will be with M1”


Apple will not go for sure with M1 but with M1x or double m1 or an M2
That 16” needs to overcome for example an high end dgpu
And the 16” need 4 usb4 and since M1 is limited to just 2 ports ..check and read my reply again
 
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