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You’ll never have to ask if it is snappy again 😂

Just don’t try loading dozens of Red raw video clips and a multi gigabyte 3D scene yet. That will come later.

The new Call of Duty game is 136GB install and 40 gigabytes was the high res assets alone. “Desktop” CPUs and dedicated 250-300 watt ray tracing graphics cards are your only choice for that level of gaming right now so people on this discussion saying x86/AMD/Nvidia are dead aren’t being realistic.

These M1 chips have incredible performance, but the integrated GPU won’t really be able to be used fully to play the best games as you need to be able to boot camp into windows which can’t be done on apple silicon macs. Then like you said for the big AAA games like CoD you need AMD or nvidia GPU’s, so to play these types of games you still need an Intel based Mac with a Vega card at least.
 
I upgraded in 2019 my MBP so won't be upgrading for a while but I am really excited about what is ahead of us given how significant the improvements already are.

Looking forward to these machines being delivered and tested.

Same here. Recently acquiring 16-core 2019 cheese grater, so I won't getting any newer Mac soon, but I keep in eye for M1 advancement.

Also shame, if M1 has to be that speedy, I still can’t running Solidworks on it, hence my choice still with x86. After all my Solidworks license almost cost one unit of my tower workstation...so I am only buying a computer if can run Solidworks. In my position, software dictates the hardware I am choosing on.
 
What are your guesses about the upgrade cycle of Apple Silicon Macs? Are we going to see a yearly upgrade like iphone?
 
Whether you take it at face value or consider some of the caveats around Rosetta, thermals etc, that's a pretty amazing score meaning most people can buy any of the new laptops and not be concerned about performance. When combined with the battery life increase, its pretty mind blowing.
 
This makes the MacBook Air faster than my 13" 2019 MacBook Pro :oops:

If this is the low end machines, i wonder how much faster the 16" MacBook Pro will be next year? Also this new MacBook Air is great value for money starting at £999 and having great specs like that.
 
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Interested to see how the new M1 Mac mini will work as a replacement for my Linux web server farm? :rolleyes:
 
Not quite ready to buy at the mo’ but when I am it will probably be a mini to replace my trashcan (am retired so no real need for a Mac Pro as a replacement) - this M1 malarkey has me excited enough to make a first post.

What I would really love to see is an Apple monitor or monitors to make more of a match to the mini (the XDR is a ludicrous price mismatch starting at 5.5k British Pounds).

An exciting time to be a Mac user.
 
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The A14 even outperformed Intel’s i7 in the MacBook Pro. It’s no surprise that the M1 is outperforming the i7. Even AMD is ahead of the game with their APUs over Intel at this point. Intel will need to step up their design at this point in order to either go with more power to specialize into desktop machines/servers or to come up with a more power-efficient design to rival its competitors. Apple’s design will get exponentially better over the short term but will butt up to cost issues once the memory needs outweighs the performance.
 
I jumped on the Intel bandwagon, right away. Struggling through app compatibility was a major pain. I'm actually glad I got the 16" in 2019 and a 2020 13" 10th Gen MPB, so recently. It means I can let everyone else beta test the new Apple Silicon chips over the next few years and jump in the game by 2nd or 3rd Gen., when they finally get around to redesigning the cases. We'll also have a much better idea of what the entire product line will look like in terms of features and performance.

Personally, if your computer isn't too slow for what you need it to do, waiting is the best option. Lots of new technologies like MiniLED screens, 14" MBP form-factor, etc to look forward to. I'd also expect another "Macbook Air-esque" release where Apple, again, redefines what a thin and light Pro-end laptop looks like.
 
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This makes the MacBook Air faster than my 13" 2019 MacBook Pro :oops:

If this is the low end machines, i wonder how much faster the 16" MacBook Pro will be next year? Also this new MacBook Air is great value for money starting at £999 and having great specs like that.
Agreed, the only downer for me is the 400nits peak brightness. I wish it was 500 like the Pro
 
to those who are struggling to believe ARM can possibly compete in the desktop space - just remember ARM started out as a desktop chip in the old British Acorn PCs :)

Just because intel instruction set has dominated general purpose computing over the last few centuries does not mean it is inherently better, particularly in 2020
 
Seems single core 3x faster and multi core 5x faster than my late 2016 13 inch macBook pro with a (2 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5).
 
I’m trying to imagine what the reviewers will point out as downsides/issues. Lack of complete software compatibility? I’m not sure. But, damn, this is such fantastic news for the Mac. And I can’t help but get excited for a redesigned 14” and 16” MBP. 2021 is going to be so special for Mac.
For the Air? Inability to run Windows. No cooling so performance degrades with heavy sustained CPU demand, closed world architecture, need to run Rosetta on (some/a lot of) apps. Did I mention it can't run a VM of Windows?

I'm answering the question of what reviewers will point out as a downside. The lack of Windows VM capability RIGHT NOW will be highlighted over and over. In addition, the inability to add memory or internal peripherals will be pointed out by all WIntel manufacturers. How serious or true those purported downsides are I don't know, but I think the initial criticisms are pretty obvious even if they aren't in reality that much of a downside. Most lower end computers aren't upgradable no matter what the chip or OS is.
 
So the Macbook Air would make a good desktop when connected to an external monitor ?
If this one doesn't make what else will!?

I'm using my late 2016 MacBook Pro as a Desktop, but the new M1 MacBook Air will be 3x(SC) and 5x(MC) faster than it.

I waiting for the first reviews and then be off running to grab one. :)
 
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For the Air? Inability to run Windows. No cooling so performance degrades with heavy sustained CPU demand, closed world architecture, need to run Rosetta on (some/a lot of) apps. Did I mention it can't run a VM of Windows?

I'm answering the question of what reviewers will point out as a downside. The lack of Windows VM capability RIGHT NOW will be highlighted over and over. In addition, the inability to add memory or internal peripherals will be pointed out by all WIntel manufacturers. How serious or true those purported downsides are I don't know, but I think the initial criticisms are pretty obvious even if they aren't in reality that much of a downside. Most lower end computers aren't upgradable no matter what the chip or OS is.
But you can ARM Windows and eventually that will also support x64 App emulation. We don't know how that performs yet. But I'v got the feeling that I might be better than running Windows native on an Intel MacBook.
 
Exactly! Raw power matters but without applications that utilizes, it is useless. Hopefully it has better apps compared to chromebooks that uses ARM based processors like M1.
Quite a lot of the applications people run today on Intel macs can be easily ported to M1, sometimes with just a recompile. Most developers will have universal binaries for Intel/ARM with their updates to macOS 11.
And for the big players like Adobe and Microsoft, rest assured that they had access to the new platform for a while now and will also bring their products to the new Macs.

And if it's not clear from the benchmarks, the M1 used in Macs not like the cheap low end ARM processors used in Chromebooks.
 
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For the Air? Inability to run Windows. No cooling so performance degrades with heavy sustained CPU demand, closed world architecture, need to run Rosetta on (some/a lot of) apps. Did I mention it can't run a VM of Windows?

I'm answering the question of what reviewers will point out as a downside. The lack of Windows VM capability RIGHT NOW will be highlighted over and over. In addition, the inability to add memory or internal peripherals will be pointed out by all WIntel manufacturers. How serious or true those purported downsides are I don't know, but I think the initial criticisms are pretty obvious even if they aren't in reality that much of a downside. Most lower end computers aren't upgradable no matter what the chip or OS is.
It’s interesting, we don’t know the longevity of those chips because the only parameter is the iPad, and only in the last few years the iPad started getting performance intensive apps like Lumia Fusion and Affinity (and Photoshop).
 
What are your guesses about the upgrade cycle of Apple Silicon Macs? Are we going to see a yearly upgrade like iphone?
My guess is that it's going to be closer to the iPad - every 1.5 to 2 years. Macs are popular, but they don't sell anywhere near the volume of the iPhone to justify such a rapid upgrade cycle, and people expect to be able to hold on to their Macs for anywhere from 3-7 years on average, so it's probably not sustainable for Apple to keep updating the Mac every year.

Assuming Apple silicon lives up to the hype, the reality is that even a 2-year-old AS Mac is still going to be faster and have longer battery life than the latest intel chips on the market anyways.
 
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Inability to run Windows. ... Did I mention it can't run a VM of Windows?

The lack of Windows VM capability RIGHT NOW will be highlighted over and over.
Am I the only person to buy a Mac because I want to run macOS on it?
I couldn't really care less if my Mac runs Windows or not.
In the 25+ years I worked on Apple hardware, there was never a Windows installation on it in some form.
 
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