That was just hype. The system was only able to really sustain 5 Chrome tabs, the other 5 were static sites with no JavaScript.
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Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro
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The fan will let the MacBook Pro sustain peak power for much longer. That is important for tasks such as compiling large videos.
AMD has done a great job. Still, low end base MBA M1 has a GB score of 1687, while the just released top dog Zen 3 is 1663 for single core. Of course a desktop chip with 16 core is going to win the multicore score against a fan less laptop. Just the Ryzen 9 5950X CPU chip alone is going to cost $799 US, while the MBA (with screen, keyboard, memory and screen) starts at $999.
The 5600x does match the M1’s single score and beats it in multi core. But it does not have great performance per watt. It uses 28 watts to achieve that score while the M1 uses about 5w. You can check Anandtech’s article on the 5600x.
Presumably better sustained performance due to the "thermal management system", aka a fan, especially if you push both the CPU and the iGPU at the same time for an extended period.
That's where things get murky. Keller gets a lot of credit for Apple's success but as far as I can tell he was only involved in the A4 and the A5, which were still based on the standard ARM core, and Apple's chips really took off starting with the A6. However the Tesla tenure seemed to have gone well compared to some of other Elon hires, and I'd imagine it's AMD's turnaround with the Zen series that really amplified his previous stints and made him the rockstar.
But as with most companies, it's really difficult to tell how much a engineering manager's leadership was worth. I suspect it's a collection of experienced field managers and motivated hungry young 'uns that do the actual work like in most other companies but the leadership from the top still sets the culture for it.
Will be more interested to see GB5 run via Rosetta 2 and observe the performance hit as we'll probably be utilizing Rosetta 2 in the next year, hopefully not next couple years.
Not making any judgement til we see real world results that can compare across similar apps. Having said this apple's claims are very vague at this point. Geekbench does not represent real world when it comes to apps so will have to wait and see.
I see the Air screen is now P3 wide colour gamut which is nice.
I've switched back to an Air recently and haven't missed the brighter screen of the Pro, although I realise its a very personal, subjective thing and can depend on what sort of work you're doing.
How do we know these results are actually true, and not just something bogus and deceiving someone uploaded? (sorry, but I don't know how public it is to upload to Geekbench). Just wanna make sure we're not
Wondering just because I saw a "MacbookPro17,1" running Apple Silicon and that seems... odd? https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4663687
(hidden as I don't want someone just skimming through the post to think this is an actual thing)
Wondering just because I saw a "MacbookPro17,1" running Apple Silicon and that seems... odd? https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/4663687
(hidden as I don't want someone just skimming through the post to think this is an actual thing)
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Linus is so funny, the way he tries to straddle the fence between genuinely geeking out about something cool that Apple does, and also get paid by pandering to PC fanboys.
See also, Apple makes fastest mobile cpu's but who cares?....
See also, we intentionally broke our brand new iMac Pro, please welcome wing nut Louis Rossman. BTW, my 2018 Razor Blade bricked itself 1 month out of warranty... time to buy a 2019 Razor Blade, YAY!
See also, OMG iFixit gave the AirPod Pros a repairability score of 0, and I LOVE these Sony XMB12389502394's!
Speed bumps annually, bigger changes (ID, major features) every two to three years. Like the iPhone, expect to keep the previous year’s model available at a lower price, expanding their price range.
Please kindly name a few Nvidia notebook graphics cards with a TDP of 50 watts and perform better than 5600M.
If you are assuming it has same or faster real performance it does not.
That’s a valid opinion.
But keep in mind that aside from a specific software application that may perform better/worse with the new M1, most common apps for daily use (mail, browser, office, photos, compress files, video decoding, etc) will run faster and consume less power (longer battery life).
In 12-24 months I believe at least 80% of all good software will be updated to Apple Silicon. One will have at least alternative softwares that will run natively on AS.
There will always be exceptions and legacy software. But exceptions do not make this a bad choice for a large majority of users.
What's this "Real Performance" exactly? Does a "Real" app somehow use a different compiler and vastly different routines and libraries from the ones in the suites of benchmarks?
And a lot of entertainment value can be had by looking at Reddit and Anandtech comment sections where a lot of AMD fans are mad at the Anandtech writer for being an Apple shill. The writer is clearly getting mad, lol. Almost makes me feel bad for being a mostly AMD user over Intel and nVidia.
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EVERY 13 inch MacBook Air or Pro owner who only has 8 GB is thinking 100 times / day about it. And every serious user with 16 GB wishes they had 32 GB. Memory is the only thing you really need. Since Apple has made decent amounts prohibitively expensive, most people don't buy enough, and therefore this is really just a wrong statement (although of course you can think what you want).
LOL. I think apple is trying to make this architecture as flexible as they can. They don't want to lose users in the process so got to wait and see.
“We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone processor. PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in.”
The catch is this benchmark is only relevant to data processed once it enters the CPU. There is a totally separate and cumulative number of factors that come into play when moving data into and out of the processor. I.E. for rendering the audio/video and input/output for human interface.
that said, Apple’s approach to putting massive amounts of memory on chip do play to their favor as the single chip includes the GPU which cuts out a tremendous amount of data transit to a separate bus / architecture as is used in intel designs today.
You are right, but the fewer times I have to recharge, the longer the life span of the battery. And I did not find it too short - just had a feeling that the battery inside a laptop would by far outrank that of an iPad or iPhone. Considering how long my iPad battery lasts I imagined more.
The thing is, I just started using an iPhone 11 Pro and with my phone usage I only need to charge it every third day, which I am really excited about. So maybe for me the MacBook Air battery will last 48 hours
NO. Because having that separate bus and architecture would degrade performance significantly. This design only works as well as it does because everything is resident in a single plot of silicon.
From my experience working at a small fabless semiconductor start-up in Silicon Valley (Palo Alto) for a dozen years and being acquired by a tech giant... it was the founders direct involvement in each and every design, at all levels. Without that, we would not have succeeded.
It is a bit of topic but Gary Explains has has finally test of iPhone 12 and A14
and his review of M1 more to topic.
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