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Comparison to AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT Benchmarks​

CPU Benchmark Scores​

1302 Single-Core Score
7074 Multi-Core Score

The M1 is on its way to glory!!! This is a great sign and great start!

The high end processor to beat

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X Benchmarks​

CPU Benchmark Scores​

1205 Single-Core Score
25025 Multi-Core Score

How long will it take the M1 to get there? My guess is less than 2 years.
The AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT is 95 W TDP. The really mind boggling part is that Apple has achieved the performance of the M1 in 5 W TDP for its low power cores and under 15 W TDP for its high power cores.

The AMD 3990X is 280 W TDP. I can only image what Apple can achieve with a M series that is under 100 W TDP.
 
These numbers look great. Will we ever be able to run Windows using VMware on Apple chips? I use an older version of AutoCad for Windows.
 
I have a maxed out 2014 MBP, and a maxed out 2012 mac mini with a SSD.

Both are still chugging along fine, but it is taking every fiber of my being not to throw a new mini, and MBP in the cart.

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Ok, you’ve waited.

Order it yet?
 
Anyone have a link or summary of how the new Macs do on geekbench's graphics tests?

I learned the hard way that real-world graphics performance (i.e. Photoshop) is heavily reliant on graphics card performance.
 
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I know obscenities are not allowed on this website... so I’ll just say this: holy heck!!

Apple has done it. It has laid intel to waste. Imagine the performance when Apple brings 3 nm and beyond and scales this chip up to the level of a 28+ core Xeon in the Mac Pro. Intel is done.
The only downside is that it seems that M1 might have limited channels for bandwidth. No M1 device has more than 16gb of RAM nor does it have more than 2 thunderbolt 4 usb-c ports. The mini also lost the gigabit Ethernet. It’s fast and efficient but there’s a reason it’s not in the pro devices. Notice the 13” MacBook Pro doesn’t have a 4 port M1 option.
 
Anyone have a link or summary of how the new Macs do on geekbench's graphics tests?

I learned the hard way that real-world graphics performance (i.e. Photoshop) is heavily reliant on graphics card performance.
This is what I am waiting to see as well officially. I have seen a couple of posts that say the GPU performance is akin to an RX 560. I mean the bar was pretty low in what Apple was comparing the Mac Mini GPU to given the Intel UHD Graphics 630 was rubbish already so them saying 6x faster graphics is not exactly earth shattering, ditto the Intel Iris Plus Graphics of the Air and Pro 13”
 
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These numbers look great. Will we ever be able to run Windows using VMware on Apple chips? I use an older version of AutoCad for Windows.
if you are using older software, you are pretty much stuck, considering that autocad is available for ipad and Mac, I see no reason why Autodesk would not create an M1 optimized version, what I would love to see is Revit for the M1, it's such a dog on windows.
 
how does buying arm matter? They could (and did) design arm processors before doing so. buying arm doesn’t give them any advantage.
Yes, you’re right, but it does get them all the folks who design the underlying technology itself.
 
Yes, you’re right, but it does get them all the folks who design the underlying technology itself.

Does it? What part of the M1 technology is due to Arm and what part is due to Apple?
What an M1 be any less impressive if it was based on Risc-V instead of Arm?

I think not.
 
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Anyone have a link or summary of how the new Macs do on geekbench's graphics tests?

I learned the hard way that real-world graphics performance (i.e. Photoshop) is heavily reliant on graphics card performance.
This is what I am waiting to see as well officially. I have seen a couple of posts that say the GPU performance is akin to an RX 560. I mean the bar was pretty low in what Apple was comparing the Mac Mini GPU to given the Intel UHD Graphics 630 was rubbish already so them saying 6x faster graphics is not exactly earth shattering, ditto the Intel Iris Plus Graphics of the Air and Pro 13”
The GPU results are pretty impressive for a integrated GPU.
 
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Wow that guy and this video was a bag of annoying and cluelessness (parents, you need to tell your kids the truth about their abilities and intelligence)... he doesn't even deserve a participation trophy...

Aside: That voice sent me into a psychotic seizure... how does this dude get people to watch his stuff?
It's the PC gaming world, and he's the leader. I have a lot of disdain for it that I won't get into here.
Pretty sure Linus himself actually knows his stuff, though.
 
You are correct - Geekbench only tests the CPU portion - nothing else.

Apple M1 has many other accelerators not even considered in Geekbench.
I would like to add, even RAM speed had no noticeable effect on Geekbench scores last I checked. Maybe the test hardly uses the RAM or even keeps it all in CPU caches? Not sure. "CPU benchmark" can mean a lot of things.
 
It's the PC gaming world, and he's the leader. I have a lot of disdain for it that I won't get into here.
Pretty sure Linus himself actually knows his stuff, though.
There are also sponsors that push how those influencers review. PC Gaming is also in decline hardware-wise but... eh.

End of the day, this is not an iPad. Different usage and OS, optimizations, even if the same chip design.
 
I was hoping someone could comment or give their opinion to my Question? I recently got rid of my iPad Pro 12.9, in hopes that in 2021 I would get the new one which would have better performance etc. but since the MacBook Air M1Just came out I was thinking about getting this instead? I know it’s not an iPad but it is a Fanless system Which both share, and the iPad Pro has excellent performance. Would anyone say that the MacBook Air would far exceed the iPad Air in performance?
 
I was hoping someone could comment or give their opinion to my Question? I recently got rid of my iPad Pro 12.9, in hopes that in 2021 I would get the new one which would have better performance etc. but since the MacBook Air M1Just came out I was thinking about getting this instead? I know it’s not an iPad but it is a Fanless system Which both share, and the iPad Pro has excellent performance. Would anyone say that the MacBook Air would far exceed the iPad Air in performance?
Doing what exactly? Maybe so, probably. iOS is optimized differently than macOS and those chips are similar, however, the MacBook Air has a higher wattage for performance.
 
Doing what exactly? Maybe so, probably. iOS is optimized differently than macOS and those chips are similar, however, the MacBook Air has a higher wattage for performance.
I am a graduate student in epidemiology, so statistical work, emails, FaceTime,etc...I know it’s hard to compare the two as one uses iPadOS and the other one uses macOS but I wanted to compare them , As I use the iPad for school as well, and it seems as though the MacBook Air would be a more powerful device in general?
 
There are also sponsors that push how those influencers review. PC Gaming is also in decline hardware-wise but... eh.

End of the day, this is not an iPad. Different usage and OS, optimizations, even if the same chip design.
Yeah, wait, the iPad doesn't even have the same processor. So he's complaining that the CPU is designed too similarly. Very silly.

Wait till the average Joe with his low-end AS Mac starts crapping on Linus's Ryzen XwhateverX rig. It'll be like when Teslas started beating Ferraris in drag races.
 
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Yeah, wait, the iPad doesn't even have the same processor. So he's complaining that the CPU is designed too similarly. Very silly.

Wait till the average Joe with his low-end AS Mac starts crapping on Linus's Ryzen XwhateverX rig.
Yes his business is "sell PC thing-ys via youtube ads for gamerzz to buy." He's not going to get much for Apple products. He'll do so to nudge people to his sponsors. It's his job basically.

I got turned off by the lot of them for this kind of nonsense. Absolutely no real knowledge and understanding of just about anything in that space outside of FPS from benchmarks on a game.
 
I was hoping someone could comment or give their opinion to my Question? I recently got rid of my iPad Pro 12.9, in hopes that in 2021 I would get the new one which would have better performance etc. but since the MacBook Air M1Just came out I was thinking about getting this instead? I know it’s not an iPad but it is a Fanless system Which both share, and the iPad Pro has excellent performance. Would anyone say that the MacBook Air would far exceed the iPad Air in performance?
Yeah, it will.
 
When was this, though? RAM space/$ used to double every few years, now it doesn't anymore. It even became more expensive at some point due to supply problems. So it's less of an issue than it was in, say, 2012. Case in point, I'm still happily using my 2015 MBP with the baseline 8GiB RAM it came with.
You've got me thinking, and you are right that the fast exponential growth of RAM doesn't exist anymore, I hadn't actually noticed that. It has slowed to a more slower exponential growth. In 2012 I bought a new MBP w a baseline 4GB RAM with upgrade option of 8GB, but cheaper laptops had 2GB, so 2/4/8GB. In 2015, Apple laptop options were 4/8/16GB, and now they are 8/16/32/64. In another 5 years they could possibly be 16/32/etc, but hey, maybe the baseline will still be 8GB. And you are quite right that over the life of a laptop now, the RAM it comes with is probably sufficient, good point. I guess this is due to the growth rate of data sizes, and RAM actually finally catching up to the needs of that data. Text data is static. Images have grown, but RAM has caught up. Video is growing still, as we see HD, 4K, 8K etc, but it isn't doubling every two years. Software size is growing slowly, but RAM has caught up. Fair point.

It does however remain true that Apple charges 4x the market retail rate for RAM and SSD though, which really affects the purchase price horrendously, especially if you want a larger sized option. This is a huge reason why I have put off replacing my current 2015 MBP.
 
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