This is going to be what ends up being a big disappointment. Compared to iGPU performance, sure, it's amazing, compared to Nvidia RTX 3000 series or AMD Big Navi? Yeah, no.
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Apple Silicon M1 Chip in MacBook Air Outperforms High-End 16-Inch MacBook Pro
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Are you sure about that? The RAM appears to be in the M1. What exactly are you saying is going off-chip?
Final Cut needs some work. I wonder what they have planned for it given they also used showed Resolve during the demo. It's probably the most processor and memory intensive out of all their apps.
With Apple Silicon, new era for MAC has started. In july bought Macbook Air but looking at every aspect of Apple Si Macbook Air, compel to either sell or trade in to get the new version.
Let's not forget that this is Apple's low end chip....just wait
They bragged about a lot of things like the performance compared to "Latest PC Laptop Chip" -- whatever that actually means, lol.
Or the fact that geekbench for arm / big sur was only released today
I like to think of it this way - "these M1 laptops will be the slowest, worst performing laptops we'll use for the rest of our lives"
Graph x86 performance vs Apple CPU performance over the last decade or so. Intel would have to radically bend their curve just to keep up, and there’s no indication they can do it. Even switching to TSMC as a fab wouldn’t get them there.
No argument that real-world benchmarks would be nice, but please *don't* bring back Steve-Jobs-style benchmarks! I remember he lied through his teeth when, in introducing the Power Mac G5 at the 2003 WWDC, he used a Mathematica benchmark to support his claim that it was faster than the fastest Intel processor. What he actually did was cherry-pick a single Mathematica operation for which the PPC was faster (an integer calculation), ignoring the others (floating point calculations) for which Intel was faster.
Yesterday’s keynote wasn’t directed toward the tech crowd. These are entry level Macs marketed toward people who don’t rush to install Geekbench. They explained in simple terms that the new Macs are much faster and have longer battery lives, and what average users might be able to do with all that power.
Geekbench usually runs for about 2-3 minutes. Cinebench runs for much longer and would be a better benchmark for comparing the Air to the Pro.
That's a good point, but I didn't trust a single reference of '2x' '3x' '4x' claims all throughout the keynote for the same reason, 4x performance where? To me they lost credibility to the entire mac enthusiast community and we are all waiting for real testing to learn the truth.
Yeah, because the Air would obviously have had one of those big-assed graphics cards inside, if Apple hadn’t been so stupid as to go off and design their own chips, right? Why do people keep on bringing up this nonsense? It has nothing at all to do with the what got released yesterday. And remember that Apple almost legendarily skimps on the discrete graphics. So cut the machines some slack. These are huge steps forward. Nobody at all predicted these kinds of increases in performance. Even if they don’t catch up to Big Navi, the graphics is going to be terrific — and it’ll be terrific in machines that would never have had a Big Navi. And by 2022, who knows? Do remember to come back an eat some crow if the graphics capabilities failed to be the big disappointment you’re predicting.
Like I said an arm coded tool to test a processor speed does not mean other Mac applications not coded for arm yet will run fast. It still have to go threw Rosetta 2 so they will run. You are not running Geekbench mark software to edit photos or videos on your computer.
Considering that the M1 is replacing Iris Plus (and UHD 630 in the Mini) it’s not bad. It seems to be faster than Tiger Lake’s GPU while using less power.
The benchmarks out there put the 8 core on par with a Vega M (the weird hybrid Intel/AMD iGPU with a 4GB HBM2 stack), so about a 1050Ti mobile. Nothing compared to a solid dGPU, especially now, but great for an iGPU for sure.
Still surpassing the new 96EU Xe’s.
Wow.
Absolutely blown away.
And these are the low end chips.
Absolutely blown away.
And these are the low end chips.
A few people have pointed this out, but I will go ahead and re-iterate this -- Geekbench is a GREAT metric for everyday tasks, but it's a HORRIBLE metric for sustained workloads. It's way more useful for benchmarking mobile devices, because we don't tend to use mobile devices to do sustained workloads. I'd much rather see what the Cinebench scores are for these M1 Macs.
Do you have a source for this? I don't know any non-tech people that watched this 'mac keynote'. I'd love to know who in your circle of friends or family that are non-tech watched this and told you about it.
I still have an the original MacBook Air. While it never was my primary computer and never got a ton of use, because it was SO SLOW... but it still goes a full week in sleep mode with only 15% battery loss. I tried to get my wife to use it a few years ago, but she complained it was too slow.
I'm getting her this new MacBook Air, since she started complaining about her iPad Pro she got last Christmas about 6 months ago, saying she should have got a MacBook instead.
Being able to run iOS apps on it, was the deal maker for me.