So it looks like all three M1’s run at the same speed? (At least until the Air gets too hot?) So there is no speed bump from the Mini having 120v power supply?
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Apple Silicon M1 Compiles Code as Fast as 2019 Mac Pro and With Minimal Battery Life Impact
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In the test, though both M1 and Intel machines were building WebKit, but actually they were building for different targets (ARMv8 and x86_64). The compilation/optimization/code-generation/etc for different targets could vary in many ways.
Curious to know the numbers if we cross-build for x86_64 on M1 or cross-build for ARMv8 on Intel.
Curious to know the numbers if we cross-build for x86_64 on M1 or cross-build for ARMv8 on Intel.
It’s crazy how some people in the comments aren’t impressed or want to see other “real world scenarios” Lol. Like, you REALLY can’t be satisfied huh. I would hate living life like that.
From the article: "Right up top I’m going to start off with the real ‘oh ****’ chart of this piece. I checked WebKit out from GitHub and ran a build on all of the machines with no parameters"
with no parameters -- I guess this means the compiler will build for the same architecture as the host. It this is true, yap this is not Apples to Apples comparison. (This is indeed "Apple (M1)" to "Apple (Intel)" comparison though)
Ha ha, it's just that they used the default settings so that probably means the Intel-app compiler on Intel and the ARM-app compiler on M1.
A lot of differences between the two so the comparison is mostly worthless.
As a video editor using Resolve, I'm super excited about the ease with which the M1 is killing it in video production cheaper than the best Intel Mac Pro system Apple is currently selling
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Good lord, this is going to transform video editors' lives. I'm sooooo excited for the updated iMac Pro optimized for video editors, maybe with the yet to be announced M2 chip?
I have a feeling Parallels and VMWare are either going to secure the ability to license Windows 10 on ARM from Microsoft to offer their customers (which has built in x86 emulation) or build out their own x86 emulation to continue offering Windows on ASi Macs. Given the performance we’re seeing from the M1 for native apps, a well crafted emulator could easily deliver performance on par with an Intel processor from a few years ago. CPU speeds and emulation capabilities have come a long way since the dark days of SoftWindows and VirtualPC in the late 90’s.
Parallels has already announced it.
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I did see that they announced M1 support, and the press release does mention Windows 10 on ARM, but has there been any word from Microsoft on whether they’ll allow non-OEM licenses? The press release you linked to contains yet another link to a Microsoft press release that still describes them as working with only hardware partners on this. That would seem to be the missing link (and the easiest problem to solve).Parallels has already announced it.
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In their blog from Nov.10, Parallels says,
That's something, I guess. I use Parallels with both Windows and old versions of OS X as guest systems, so that's not enough. Maybe someone clever will build an emulation layer some day. These are early days.
As I read it, that means no emulation on the Parallels side, but expecting Windows 10 on ARM to do x64 emulation within it.
That's something, I guess. I use Parallels with both Windows and old versions of OS X as guest systems, so that's not enough. Maybe someone clever will build an emulation layer some day. These are early days.
Well, I know only basic principles of programming but for Lr Classic to run natively doesn't the code need to be completely new? Eg. all calls to any X86 or X64 processes need to be removed or rewritten.
Very few modern programs use actual CPU-specific assembly code anymore. Most use high-level languages (Objective-C, Swift) that make calls to OS-level APIs which can be readily compiled to run on different CPU types. The big headache with the PPC->Intel transition is that most of the major apps were legacy Carbon apps that came from Classic Mac OS and were barely updated to run on Mac OS X. Most of these legacy apps have actually already been rewritten using modern Cocoa APIs since then - Adobe products were rewritten in Cocoa as part of the CS5 release in 2011 and Office was rewritten in Cocoa as part of Office 2016. Cocoa-based apps are easier to port to other architectures, so that means a lot of the legwork is already done and most of the tweaks will be in the form of optimization and bug fixes.
One possibility is that Apple has underclocked the M1 Mini, given its actual thermal capabilities.
An interesting scenario is for AMD to release a hot new gamer chip with greater single core performance than the M1... and Apple releases a minor OS update that lets the Mini beat it on those benchmarks via a clock boost.
Considering how much they're currently emphasizing unified memory... I doubt it'll be anything quite like that. Programming for an environment where different chunks of main memory are more or less accessible based on which core they're attached to is frustrating, which is part of why AMD's been moving away from that to locating all the memory channels on the uncore as I recall.
Yea I guess you are right. I just don't see how the pros will be faster since the M1 are already at 5nm. What can they do? Now I am guessing higher clock-speeds that will generate more heat but in PROs will have better cooling?
TIL: Amazon builds their own CPUs. Next Microsoft. RIP Intel.