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Expect RAM use to grow over the life of your Mac. Plan accordingly...

My Advice: If you have an Apple Silicon (M1, M2, or M3) Mac now with only 8GB of RAM, consider selling it on eBay or Facebook Marketplace right way, or give it away to a family member, and get a minimum 16GB RAM M4 based chip Mac, before everyone else with an 8GB RAM Mac dumps theirs for cheap, lowering your resale value. 8GB RAM Macs will soon be dinosaurs, in the age of Apple Intelligence and modern memory hungry apps.

If you want to future-proof yourself even more, get a M4 Pro and M4 Max Mac that has Thunderbolt 5 ports, so you can have external Thunderbolt 5 SSD drives (with over 6,000 MB/second transfer rate) and high end displays supporting up to 120 Gbps support. See the first Thunderbolt 5 external SSD drives here: https://www.owc.com/solutions/envoy-ultra

UPDATE for Clarity: If you like what you have, then please keep it. I was just saying in my post that there likely will be a lot of people dumping their 8GB Macs very soon, so if you want to upgrade from a 8GB RAM Mac, do it now, before the resale value of your 8GB RAM Mac tanks.
90% of people using 8gb aren't pro users and the 8gb is plenty for them, in 3 years time, probably not, stop scaremongering, this is only an issue with the so called YouTube techies!
If 8gb was enough for them over a hole year, there is no need to sell now!
 
I think 48 is a good point. Good enough to run excellent LLM, and more than enough for some AAA gaming. And yes with the Vision Pro ultrawide screen and 0 latency, I think this is the best gaming experience I’ve had in a long time.
48gb is overkill for 99.99%, and a waste of money. Same for 32gb.

Current memory usage on my 16gb m1 Air is 10.66gb.
 
When choosing a new Mac, one of the most important decisions you'll make is how much memory to configure. This guide helps you to work out how much RAM you need.
I found using a AS iMac with 16GB almost never uses memory swap to SSD in three years casual/entertainment usage. I also have a 32GB AS 16” MBP and for multiple app usage it is all you need unless you are using video/audio multi-track editing of large projects. Then it’s better to have more then 32GB. :)
 
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Considering how slowly apple moves when it comes to upping base RAM I think people performing moderate tasks will be comfortable with 16GB RAM for the next ~8 years or so. By that time you will likely want/need a new machine and can reevaluate at that time of purchase.

It was about time we moved away from 8GB as the base.

My personal needs are a bit higher as ideally I would want a MacBook Pro to ship with a 256GB RAM option, but perhaps in the next year or so that will be a reality. Of course I will also complain about the price like everyone else does ;)
I suspect you will get your wish, with the M4 Ultra
 
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This must be due to some sort of memory leak. What version is this? The latest macOS 15.1
I'm not saying it isn't, but I've seen that much memory used in Safari and Chrome when many (many) windows and tabs are open. Especially if they are open with high consuming sites, which is pretty much anything these days.

The resource usage really starts to stack up and quickly. If someone has many windows with YouTube and sites like that, or worse, then I definitely have seen this. It also applies to real world users who just work a certain way, especially when researching something and so on. Some times, with multiple monitors available and LOTS of info/sites to work with, it's just easier and a better workflow for many people to keep things visible/within-reach, in an unorganized-but-organized method.

I've certainly been known to do this. I also don't think it's a wrong way to do things. I think a much larger issue is really when it comes to how websites have evolved over the years. Way too many sites that are basically just static, simple sites use large frameworks and libraries that use up tons of memory without it ever being necessary.

If I were to blame one thing, it would be the absolute abomination of Javascript and its libraries like React and Vue for making such insane resource-consumers in the browser (and beyond with Electron).
 
The vast majority of Mac users use their computers for almost nothing. Shopping on Amazon and watching videos or maybe email. That's it. For those people, a Chromebook would work well. And even the M1 with 8GB is overkill.

Seriously, when was the last time you used Logic on an orchestral assignment with two dozen sampled tracks? And when you did, I bet it worked well enough with 16GB RAM. Most people use just one app, the web browser.
I would modify this somewhat. I think a lot of people use productivity apps for work and school plus maybe access a corporate data base via the web to download info. That said, 8GB is fine for these sorts of things. My base 8GB M2 MBA is running smoothly under the latest version of Sequoia, so I should be fine for the next year or two. I don’t feel compelled to trade it in for 16GB. I’ll just wait for the new MBA model, which will probably released in a couple of years based on the usual cycle. By that time, I will have had 4-5 years of trouble free use. No complaints.
 
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How do you explain just Mail or Safari wanting over 200GB??? I'm not Hollywood movie editor or enterprise-level researcher, I just have bunch of tabs when I'm researching what air fryer to buy and then system runs out of memory 🤷 whyyyy???
No matter how much ram you have the Mac will always try and use all of it.
 


When choosing a new Mac, one of the most important decisions you'll make is how much memory to configure. This guide helps you to work out how much RAM you need.

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With the advent of Apple silicon and its unified memory architecture in 2020, the traditional understanding of RAM has evolved, leading to new considerations for users when selecting a memory option. Unlike traditional PC RAM, where separate components like the CPU and GPU each have their own dedicated memory pools, Apple's unified memory architecture allows all processing units to access a single, shared pool of high-bandwidth, low-latency memory.

As a result, in Apple silicon systems, data doesn't need to be copied between multiple memory areas, significantly improving speed and power efficiency. By uniting memory, Apple devices with this technology theoretically deliver superior performance across multitasking, creative workflows, and demanding applications while minimizing the latency typically associated with data transfer between separate memory types. With the optimizations of macOS, this means that less memory can go further than before, for most Mac users.

All Mac models now start with 16GB of memory, up from 8GB, with the option to upgrade to higher configurations with build-to-order models. However, choosing to do so can add considerable cost to the base price of a new Mac.

To help you make the best choice for your workflow and budget, here's a breakdown of who should choose each memory tier currently available in the entire Mac lineup and why it may be the right fit for you:

  • 16GB: General users, students, and professionals with standard workloads should opt for 16GB. This configuration is perfect for those who primarily browse the web, stream content, use productivity apps, and perform multitasking. Thanks to the performance of Apple silicon and the efficiency of macOS, 16GB is more than sufficient for a smooth experience with everyday tasks.
  • 24GB: Users who need slightly more headroom for multitasking and moderate creative work should consider 24GB. This tier is ideal for those who work with slightly heavier applications such as video editing, gaming, graphic design, or coding but do not push these tasks to the absolute extreme. It provides an additional buffer for users who run multiple intensive apps simultaneously and perform more multitasking than what 16GB can handle comfortably.
  • 32GB or 36GB: Professionals engaging in intensive creative workflows, such as video editing in 4K, music production with multiple tracks, or large-scale coding projects, should opt for 32GB or 36GB. These configurations suit users who frequently use memory-heavy applications like Adobe Creative Cloud apps, Xcode, or virtual machines. It provides sufficient power for consistent performance without frequent reliance on disk swapping, even under substantial workloads.
  • 64GB: Power users and creative professionals who manage high-resolution media and extensive multitasking should choose 64GB. It is ideal for those working on large 3D modeling projects, editing 8K video, or handling complex simulations and data analysis. This memory quantity should support running multiple virtual machines or advanced software development environments without any slowdown.
  • 96GB: High-end creative professionals and developers handling intensive projects involving large datasets or media should consider 96GB. This tier offers significant overhead for those who need more than 64GB, ensuring seamless performance when editing multiple streams of high-resolution video, detailed 3D rendering, or working with substantial datasets that need to be kept in active memory.
  • 128GB: Professionals in specialized fields like film editing, data science, or engineering should look at 128GB. This memory configuration is designed for workflows that involve extremely large projects and require vast amounts of data to be kept in active memory. It is perfect for those working on high-resolution visual effects in cinema, simulation-based software, or advanced scientific computations, providing robust multitasking and peak performance across demanding tasks.
  • 192GB: Enterprise-level users, researchers, and industry professionals dealing with mission-critical, memory-intensive applications should opt for 192GB. This option is suitable for large-scale data processing, machine learning, or AI development, ensuring maximum efficiency and reducing the need for data swapping between RAM and storage. It is also ideal for developers working on complex server-side projects requiring powerful single-machine testing.

With Apple silicon's Unified Memory Architecture and macOS's efficient memory management, the base 16GB configuration now meets the needs of most users, providing a good balance of cost and performance for everyday computing tasks and moderate creative work.

The increasing importance of demanding artificial intelligence features like Apple Intelligence and the potential for more intensive applications over time mean that those with more demanding workflows or plans for longevity should consider upgrading the memory. Opting for 24GB or 32GB can provide an added buffer for the future, supporting heavier multitasking, creative software, and emerging AI features. Higher configurations, such as 64GB or more, are better for professionals in fields that require significant data handling, including video production, 3D rendering, and machine learning.

For users who already own an Apple silicon Mac, it will be worthwhile to evaluate your current system's performance to determine whether you'll need more memory next time around. Consider whether your current memory configuration handles your typical workload efficiently or if you experience slowdowns during multitasking or when using resource-intensive applications. Ultimately, your decision should balance your current workload, any anticipated future requirements, and cost—especially since adding memory can be expensive and it cannot be changed after purchase.

Article Link: Apple Silicon Unified Memory: How Much Mac RAM Do You Need?
I upgraded the RAM to 16gb on my 14" M3 MBP last year, for my use it has plenty of head room for my needs, however, I will get 24gb of RAM when I upgrade it to the M7 😊
 
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90% of people using 8gb aren't pro users and the 8gb is plenty for them, in 3 years time, probably not, stop scaremongering, this is only an issue with the so called YouTube techies!
If 8gb was enough for them over a hole year, there is no need to sell now!
Please note my Update for Clarity in my original post where I say: "If you like what you have, then please keep it."

I am not trying to scare anyone to upgrade their Mac. They should keep their Mac if they are happy with it. This Macrumors.com News story was titled: How Much RAM Do You Need? So that implies analyzing your future RAM memory needs, hence my answers with an outlook to future memory needs.
 
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Can someone explain the markup on RAM? How does something that costs less than $5 end up costing $1000? The prices below are spot so I assume that large companies like Apple have contracts that likely lower the cost even further.

Obviously there are integration / manufacturing costs for Apple but I can't imagine those costs taking a $5/chip to $200/chip.

https://www.trendforce.com/news/202...igns-of-loosening-likely-to-persist-until-q4/

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They sell base models at the lowest price possible and use the upgrade options only a certain percentage of users actually buy to subsidize it all. The best selling Mac is always the entry level air.
 
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What do you consider editing work? I work with some 4k GoPro videos once or twice per month, and exporting it takes a few to several minutes. If you're not a professional, who cares if it takes two minutes or five minutes?

I had no problem editing them on my previous 8gb Mac, and even my current M1 Air 16gb seems overkill.
I'm talking people that do more editing like those who post on YouTube, Vimeo, Daily Motion or even Rumble with longer-length videos in the 10+ minute range. That's where the faster speed of more RAM and a faster CPU becomes really usedful.
 
Don't know why anyone would ever need more than the 128mb in my PowerBook G4.
Have 1GB in my 1999 iMac G3 SE model. Apple claimed 512MB, but IBM stated it can handle 1GB. My dad was not very happy with the upgrade when he saw it. This was after he gifted the iMac to me when he purchased the 2004 eMac G4 (USB 2.0); aka "the killers of hands when carried from the bottom."
 
Can someone explain the markup on RAM? How does something that costs less than $5 end up costing $1000? The prices below are spot so I assume that large companies like Apple have contracts that likely lower the cost even further.

Obviously there are integration / manufacturing costs for Apple but I can't imagine those costs taking a $5/chip to $200/chip.

https://www.trendforce.com/news/202...igns-of-loosening-likely-to-persist-until-q4/

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Apple’s ram is integrated into the cpu. Its not like old days where they were buying the same ram as everyone else and soldering into the motherboard.

The cost has more to do with what apple wants to charge and how much they manufacture.
 
Yes that's easy. They want money.

If it is in fact just price gouging then I would like to see some type of inquiry, perhaps by Vestager (or her replacement) and von der Leyen. I don't expect American politicians to do anything as this country is owned by corporations via lobbyists.

And this article is just completely dubious as it implies some type of actual shortage that results in this multitude of configurations. No reason to not have a more simplified structure like the following:
  • Mx chip machines (mini, Air): 16GB base and 32GB option
  • Mx Pro chip machines (mini, Macbook Pro): 32GB base and 64GB option
  • Mx Max chip machines (Studio, Macbook Pro): 64GB base and 128GB option
  • Mx Ultra chip machines (Studio, Mac Pro?): 128GB base and 256GB option
 
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I’m cruising along just fine with 8GB. My requirements are modest.

However, my son is making a play for an M4 Pro Mini for college. With 24GB, it would have 750,000 times the memory of my 6502 based BBC Micro, which I can’t quite wrap my head around.
 
As far as I’m concerned, the answer usually comes down to how much cash you've got. Basically, the right amount of memory is however much you can afford to max out. Funny thing is, this rule’s almost magical—it seems totally untouched by the laws of physics, like Newton or Einstein never even thought of it. It just kind of bends space and time, waiting for anyone with a fat wallet to make it happen.

8GB: I’m so broke.
16GB: Finally, I don’t have to drink plain water anymore.
32GB: Not bad—I can have some milk now.
64GB: Pretty comfy, got soda with every meal.
128GB: Living the life, wine’s just my everyday drink.
192GB: I say what I want to drink, and I drink it!
256GB: I can afford whatever I want!
512GB: I've got the power!
 
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I remember the 2011 17-inch MacBook Pro came with 4 GB standard which I upgraded to 8 GB. Apple should have bumped up the minimum memory for these M4 MacBook Pros to 32 GB (They are Pro laptops, after all). I made sure to put 64 GB on my 16-inch M3 Max and it is so refreshing to not have to worry about memory issues. It's like cruising at 64,000 feet with nary a cloud or a plane in the sky.
 
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Wish I had known before buying the 8GB MBA, it's been making me very very angry.
Wasted my money with all the hype around how fast it is but turns out it runs out of memory all the damn time. 16GB would have been a much better place.
 
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