All iPads Apple SIM: The Dream Has Arrived (nearly)

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    screensaver400 macrumors 6502a

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    The cellular radio technology on recent iPads has been identical between the various models, but we've all had to buy an "AT&T iPad" or "Sprint iPad." There are ways to make a Sprint iPad work on T-Mobile by swapping SIM cards and so on, but some combinations never worked.

    The iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3 now ship with an Apple SIM. Per Apple's website, you'll be able to subscribe to service from multiple carriers with a single device and SIM. It looks like AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint all support it in the U.S.

    An unanswered question: What of Verizon? Presumably Verizon is continuing with its ESN whitelisting practice, which means you have to buy a "Verizon iPad" with a Verizon SIM pre-installed. Can you buy a Verizon iPad to preserve flexibility, then swap in an Apple SIM to gain access to the other three carriers?

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  2. mikethebigo macrumors 68000

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    Actually the unlocked T-Mobile iPhone 6 works on Verizon. It seems they're letting go of the ESN issue.

    My guess would be the FCC is making Verizon open its LTE network based on the 700 mhz purchase, and Verizon figures if they have to let the devices on LTE anyway, might as well open up the CDMA network for calls.
     
  3. screensaver400 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Odd, then, that they aren't participating in the Apple SIM program.
     
  4. screensaver400 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Found this:
    That makes it sound like, at least in the US, there's going to be a single LTE model, and all of them will support all 4 US carriers.
     
  5. mikethebigo macrumors 68000

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    Yup. Though I bet if you buy your iPad at the Verizon Store they'll have Verizon SIMs ready to go. If you buy thru Apple, you'll have to get your hands on a Verizon SIM another way.
     
  6. screensaver400 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It sounds like the "other way" will be just showing up at a Verizon store and asking for one. Historically Verizon has made it hard to get a SIM, and people have had to buy them on eBay and such. Seems that may be over, at least if you show up with an iPad Air 2 or Mini 3.
     
  7. rui no onna macrumors 603

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    Nah, they still haven't let go of the ESN/MEID issue. You still can't activate service on a non-Verizon iPhone 6 /6+ or on last generation iPads. Besides, that SIM loophole has probably been there since the 700MHz spectrum purchase. The issue was lack of compatible devices. I think the first non-Verizon branded, SIM-based device that can actually be used on Verizon's network was the iPad Air and iPad rMini.

    This year, it looks like Apple's submitting all the MEIDs for the iPad Air 2 and Mini 3 to Verizon and Sprint for whitelisting which is definitely good for us consumers. Hopefully, Apple will do the same for iPhones next year.
     
  8. MasterChat macrumors member

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    This is available in the UK and USA only, right?
     
  9. rui no onna macrumors 603

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    The Apple SIM only works with AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint in the USA and EE in the UK at launch. Carriers in other countries have the option to hop aboard. I do hope both Smart and Globe PH decide to join (as well as carriers in other countries). This would be a boon to travelers since there would be no need to hunt for a SIM card in the country you're traveling to. Just sign up for a plan directly on the iPad and you're good to go. :p
     
  10. Eileen89 macrumors 65816

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    Knowing Verizon and their practices, it doesn't surprise me in the least how they would choose not to participate in this.
     
  11. MasterChat macrumors member

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    I agree with you on how convenient the Apple sim would be for travelers. I'm also positive Globe and Smart will be on board.
     
  12. RJ17 macrumors regular

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    tmobile free data

    Does anyone know if the apple sim works with the tmobile free data?
     
  13. screensaver400 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    No, no one knows. There may be a better deal in the works, though:
    (http://online.wsj.com/articles/appl...rd-that-lets-users-swap-data-plans-1413570034)

    It's unclear if it's $10 per month or $10 total for five months, but 5GB that can be used over five months is a sweet deal. I'd pay $50 for that.
     
  14. RJ17 macrumors regular

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    Now that people are receiving their Air 2 with LTE, has anyone tried to get the free data using the apple sim?
     
  15. screensaver400 thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes. The free 200 MB works. Frankly, the $10-5GB-150 day pass is an even better deal.
     

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