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Apple Slips to Fourth in Worldwide PC Sales With iPad Included

*LTD* said:
Some people around here flip-flop on the issue depending on the latest stats.

Don't be fooled.

Next quarter you'll see very, very different numbers. Over the next 3-5 years you'll see the decline of the entire PC market and a shift over to tablets and pad devices as they become more capable and powerful. The ecosystem is already in place. The content distribution model is already in place. Look what you can already do with an iPad. Mirror games onto HDTVs. Photoshop on the iPad. The list goes on. And note how quickly this all happened.
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So be it but untill that thing can run a full version of let's say Autodesk Maya and install all the plug-ins in the world I want it will still only be a mobile toy. A PC is something you work with not a fancy looking gadget. I don't see this happening in the next 5-10 years. Pack me a dual quad with HT that can run for 100 days at 100% without breaking a sweat. That's a PC.
 
*LTD* said:
The very second Apple Stores receive shipments of this fad, they're gone. I can't get a fad at the moment because everyone else and their dog buys them before I have a chance.
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I remember this happened during the pokemon phenomenon. And Charlie Sheen's one man show keeps selling out too. What's your point?
 
This is because they have continued to put time and money in to iOS and not Mac. They have been lazy and done practically done nothing with desktops and their notebooks. They need to start putting emphasis on to Macs now.
 
Dooger said:
I remember this happened during the pokemon phenomenon. And Charlie Sheen's one man show keeps selling out too. What's your point?
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The point is, it's Apple. It's where the entire market is headed. It's what got RIM, Samsung, Motorola, Microsoft, and other major players all worked up.

This isn't pokemon or some drug-addled actor.

It's what used to be a minor subset of the industry that is now breaking out and expanding rapidly. For one, it's mobile. The mobile market is massive and is experiencing nothing but growth. These tablet and pad devices are the next step in mobile computing, to the degree that they will supersede laptops and notebooks.
 
D4F said:
A PC is something you work with not a fancy looking gadget. I don't see this happening in the next 5-10 years.
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Excellent! I love it when people put these predictions down in black and white for posterity. OK, see you in 2020 when the Tablet Era will be ten years old, the dominant computer format people buy, and containing capabilities that we cannot even imagine now.

But you've put down in writing that it will not be something you work with even then. Noted.
 
I don't see a problem with the comparison numbers... it includes "Pads", not just iPads.

Acer, I believe has a tablet device. Dell has the streak. HP held back on their tablet device....

So, it is an apples to apples comparison, since tablets were included in the sales numbers for everyone in the survey.
 
fxtech said:
Why not? After all, isn't an iPod Touch just a small iPad?
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There's a difference between a PC (machine that gives you the ability to work) and a communication / entertainment device. It's amazing people cant see such obvious things lol.

No wonder when I quote a client on a 3D render they make HUGe eyes and say "i thought a computer does this" lol. Read a bit people. if you can't find basic info about what's going on around you using google then you are just plain stupid.
 
OllyW said:
What do you mean by entire market? :confused:
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Apple leads. The PC you use today runs an OS that got its inspiration from Apple popularizing the GUI in the marketplace. The smart phone you use today gets its design cues from the iPhone.
 
D4F said:
There's a difference between a PC (machine that gives you the ability to work) and a communication / entertainment device.
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We are currently witnessing the melding of the two, with the mobile side emerging as the favoured platform.

Yes, you'll see content creation on tablet and pad devices. It's inevitable as they get more powerful and easier to use.
 
NebulaClash said:
Excellent! I love it when people put these predictions down in black and white for posterity. OK, see you in 2020 when the Tablet Era will be ten years old, the dominant computer format people buy, and containing capabilities that we cannot even imagine now.

But you've put down in writing that it will not be something you work with even then. Noted.
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What are tablets going to overtake? I just dont get it... Desktops? Laptops?

I can see hybrid solutions, like the ASUS EEE Tablet. But they are not NEARLY powerful enough to run certain applications. I just dont see large businesses, such as the government replacing laptop, and desktop with tablets!? not in th next 10 years DEFINATELY.
 
NebulaClash said:
Excellent! I love it when people put these predictions down in black and white for posterity. OK, see you in 2020 when the Tablet Era will be ten years old, the dominant computer format people buy, and containing capabilities that we cannot even imagine now.

But you've put down in writing that it will not be something you work with even then. Noted.
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Go and read.
my 5-10 year predictions are actually quite funny.

You obviously have no idea how this works and no matter what stuff those little toys bring they will still be just fillers for masses not real PCs

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/332337/how_do_they_do_it_avatar_special_effects/

4352 servers during the peak of production of the Avatar blockbuster. / 34,816 processor cores, 104,448GB of memory in total. Now you get the idea what is a PC that you work with? They needed warehouses of them to get the job done and you put a little tablet in the same category as those PCs.
 
dgree03 said:
What are tablets going to overtake? I just dont get it... Desktops? Laptops?

I can see hybrid solutions, like the ASUS EEE Tablet. But they are not NEARLY powerful enough to run certain applications. I just dont see large businesses, such as the government replacing laptop, and desktop with tablets!? not in th next 10 years DEFINATELY.
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Got it, it's a definite prediction.

What are tablets going to overtake? Yes, desktops and latops. In 2020 the average person will buy a tablet as their dominant computer. Techies will still use traditional technology such as PCs, and specialists will continue to do so, but since there are FAR more average persons then such specialists and techies, the number of tablets sold in 2020 will exceed the number of traditional PCs. That's my prediction.
 
840quadra said:
Right, but how is that not a fad? By definition, it doesn't matter how said fad ends, it simply means that it's overall existence is temporary.

I agree that it it was replaced by newer technology that does more, but it still was a fad in the end.
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By that definition, the internal combustion engine is nothing but a fad. I think maybe you're just not familiar with what the word "fad" actually means Check it out: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fad
 
nsayer said:
That's pretty much the definition of a fad.
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No, that's nothing more than a shared characteristic of a "fad" and an established product.

Of course, if you consider the iPod a fad, then there's not a lot more to discuss. The iPod led to the iPod Touch, which is the foundation of the iPhone, which others then set about trying to copy.

So, we're looking at a decade-long fad that turned the industry on its head, completely changed the way we consume and acquire music - changing the face of the music industry itself, and which led to the next generation of mobile devices. This fad also continues to sell, though in lower numbers, because the other identical fad includes phone functionality and accordingly sells in record numbers each quarter.

Some fad. Most companies would trade their established products in order to get in on some of these mysterious "long-term" fads that change the face of consumer tech. Would you like it better if we call them "ultra fads" or "super fads"? :confused:
 
tbrinkma said:
By that definition, the internal combustion engine is nothing but a fad. I think maybe you're just not familiar with what the word "fad" actually means Check it out: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fad
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I am quite familiar, perhaps you should read it again.

tbrinkma's Source said:
–noun
a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., especially one followed enthusiastically by a group.
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The iPod was introduced in 2001, hit popularity in 2003 / 2004, when it was later replaced (in the eyes of masses of people buying them) by the iPhone, and later iPod Touch as the next "new thing".

Do you still see masses of people with White or Black iPods? Or do you see them carrying iPhones or iPod Touches now?

What has been on the news recently the most, sought after by most Apple fans? I don't think it is the iPod.
 
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