Ouch! Why do you post such misinformation? Do you have some Sandy Bridge Xeons or Ivy Bridge Xeons for a (dual-socket) MP?This is perhaps another nail in the coffin for their desktops, especially the Mac Pro I hate to say...
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Apple Sold More iOS Devices in 2011 Than It Sold Macs in Almost 30 Years
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Add $500 for an imagewriter, and you're at $3K. I still have my receipt. Every Mac I bought for the first 5 years or so was about $3K. Got really irritating. But I never stopped buying. In 28 years, I've never owned a Windows or DOS machine.
You're very right, but it's the other way around, it's when will the Mac become an iPad, it's happening now...
A closed & controled system is creeping in... Try changing your "hosts" file or find your "Home -> Library" folder in Snow Lep'd compared to Lion.
X11 missing from Mounting a Lion...
I think there's way too much "control freak" happening at Apple. Read "Inside Apple" & "Steve Jobs Bio"...
Hopefully, Tim Cook may change things now for the better. If not, and Apple fall into closing up their systems way too much, the graph will start heading downwards.
I don't think it's that far away. Q3 or Q4 of 2013 is more likely. There will still be some "real" Macs - for software developers - but iOS gadgets will replace the rest of the product line.
Anyway. I won't be around in Apple land anymore when that finally happens. I'm going to make my iMac hardware last as long as possible, but after that I'll buy some nice Linux-compatible machine. After all, my job life evolves around Linux and Windows Servers anyway. Using OS X was an experience, but nothing that ever earned me any money - rather the opposite; the last seven years in Apple land were the most expensive years in IT that I ever had. And I've spent the last 30 years working with computers.
It was bound to happen sooner or later. Apart from price point, the iOS devices have the advantage of coming straight into an electronics consumer environment which didn't exist for the mac back in 1984. Lower production costs, bigger market, and a pre-existing mobile device market.
Yeah you get much more bang for your buck now, but $2200-2500 for a laptop this day and age, really?! I paid $2000 CDN. after taxes and a few discounts for my 2011 15" MBP w/2.2 i7, and had a hard time paying that much.
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Yeah the 2 or 3 Macs I've owned over the last 15 years or so, I've always viewed as a long term investment, but spending $2000 on a computer this day and age just seems a little ridiculous.
And I'll bet they would like to count all the iPods as computers too...
"Hey Look at us, we sold more PCs than Microsoft !"
No.....those silly iOS devises are not computers, try again
"Hey Look at us, we sold more PCs than Microsoft !"
No.....those silly iOS devises are not computers, try again
As much as people think Apple is going to turn all macs into iOS devices.. they wouldn't. In the end, a proper computer with a full-sized keyboard and mouse is more efficient for most tasks, particularly anything that requires processing. And now that most people fancy themselves as a creative producer (e.g. FCP X is third highest revenue-bringing app for Mac), there's no way they could start skimping on the power and downsize everything.
For me, even though I got a powerful iMac, the prospect of buying a Mac Pro has more weight than buying an iPad. I'm sure there are millions of mac users like myself out there who feel similarly (maybe not Mac Pro but same idea).
As society begins to realise all the different type of challenges that we can use computers to overcome, the need for higher power computing will increase more and more.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Apple realises there's a place for iOS devices, and a place for OS X macs. Understandably there should be a lot of parallels between the two, but in the end we should have both.
The Apple I/II and the Mac will ALWAYS rule!
I don't care if every person in this world gets an IOS device. The sample FACT is IOS owns its existence to the Apple I/II and the Mac.
In the beginning of Apple it was its COMPUTERS that made Apple a multi-million dollar company, LONG BEFORE IOS WAS EVEN THOUGHT OF.
I don't care if every person in this world gets an IOS device. The sample FACT is IOS owns its existence to the Apple I/II and the Mac.
In the beginning of Apple it was its COMPUTERS that made Apple a multi-million dollar company, LONG BEFORE IOS WAS EVEN THOUGHT OF.
And the conclusion is ... ?
Unfortunately, I'm certain that some Apple management has already looked at sales volume and concluded that only iDevices should survive. If that is what they are thinking, they should spin off the Mac division and let the Mac live on. I've got nothing against iPads, but, I need a device with a keyboard and a true multi-user operating system.
Unfortunately, I'm certain that some Apple management has already looked at sales volume and concluded that only iDevices should survive. If that is what they are thinking, they should spin off the Mac division and let the Mac live on. I've got nothing against iPads, but, I need a device with a keyboard and a true multi-user operating system.
Wow, those are very telling numbers... very indicative of what the future will hold, in general...
This is such a non-story.
Of course they are selling more. Apple have spent more time marketing and hyping the iPhone worldwide in three years than they spent on Macs in thirty years too.
Not to mention the massive price disparity. When telecoms providers are practically giving away iPhones now (iPhone 3Gs is 99 cents!) it's not surprise that lots of people are buying them.
It also helps that more stores sell iOS devices than they do computers. In the 90's the only way I could get a Mac was to order by phone from one of the few retailers who actually sold Macs. Even now if you want a Mac you only have a choice of maybe two retailers locally. And that's if one of them is an Apple store.
Try buying a Mac Pro in the high street when an Apple Store isn't around. Not quite as easy as walking into a phone store.
In other news Merc sold more C-class than it did SLS AMGs in 2011. Unbelievable! How is that even possible? I mean they are the practically the same thing!
Of course they are selling more. Apple have spent more time marketing and hyping the iPhone worldwide in three years than they spent on Macs in thirty years too.
Not to mention the massive price disparity. When telecoms providers are practically giving away iPhones now (iPhone 3Gs is 99 cents!) it's not surprise that lots of people are buying them.
It also helps that more stores sell iOS devices than they do computers. In the 90's the only way I could get a Mac was to order by phone from one of the few retailers who actually sold Macs. Even now if you want a Mac you only have a choice of maybe two retailers locally. And that's if one of them is an Apple store.
Try buying a Mac Pro in the high street when an Apple Store isn't around. Not quite as easy as walking into a phone store.
In other news Merc sold more C-class than it did SLS AMGs in 2011. Unbelievable! How is that even possible? I mean they are the practically the same thing!
I think the true beauty is that the iPhone had sold more units between the fourth and fifth year then the first three combined.
This is crazy but yet there is a big price difference and almost everyone i know has an iphone, so it kinda makes sense that they have sold that much more than the Mac.
but yet there is a big price difference and almost everyone i know has an iphone, so it kinda makes sense that they have sold that much more than the Mac.I'm afraid ...
I really hope Apple will not give up the Mac Pro, servers etc due to more profit in the iOS consumer segment.
But I'm a bit afraid. We see very few new programs nor updates nowadays for Pages, Numbers, Aperture, KeyNote.
And some programs turns to be cheaper and more simple as Final Cut Pro which really was a high end program before but which turned into a more simple and crippled program for video beginners.
Most of the Apple brains and the news here seem focused on iOS stuff now.
Myself, I don't even own a iOS device but many Macs since the Macintosh II.
I really hope Apple will not give up the Mac Pro, servers etc due to more profit in the iOS consumer segment.
But I'm a bit afraid. We see very few new programs nor updates nowadays for Pages, Numbers, Aperture, KeyNote.
And some programs turns to be cheaper and more simple as Final Cut Pro which really was a high end program before but which turned into a more simple and crippled program for video beginners.
Most of the Apple brains and the news here seem focused on iOS stuff now.
Myself, I don't even own a iOS device but many Macs since the Macintosh II.
I'm still paying a premium...
I'm a student, and my 2007 17" 1920x1200 Macbook Pro cost initially $2,800 (including the student discount), and I then pumped several thousand dollars of upgrades into it, finally morphing the 250GB drive into a 1 TB drive over 4 increments, memory to 4GB, bazillions of external hard drives, etc. I just checked online, and still, to get a 17" MBP with features comparable to mine would run at least $2,300. And the iPad3 will be the first device with high enough resolution for me to buy, since I have to read professional papers on it, and I bet that'll be expensive.
I'm not happy about the high costs, but I actually need a "mobile desktop" for some serious programming and diagram viewing. If all you need is a little web browsing on the side, then of course an iPad will do fine. Everyone talks about "cheap laptops", but whenever I check on one, it typically has a much poorer screen and a slower processor or smaller hard drive. Thank god Apple still does matte IPS.
Sadly, look how Apple has treated all their other devices that got sidelined. Look at the Mac Pro and the iPod Classic. The one saving grace we have is that Apple uses Macs to develop software, so just maybe they'll keep improving Macs for that reason... And the slowly upwards creeping sales curve.
Here's looking forwards to the day when a device with a 2+ megapixel IPS screen and a 1TB+ hard drive will cost under $1,000...
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Yeah the 2 or 3 Macs I've owned over the last 15 years or so, I've always viewed as a long term investment, but spending $2000 on a computer this day and age just seems a little ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I'm a student, and my 2007 17" 1920x1200 Macbook Pro cost initially $2,800 (including the student discount), and I then pumped several thousand dollars of upgrades into it, finally morphing the 250GB drive into a 1 TB drive over 4 increments, memory to 4GB, bazillions of external hard drives, etc. I just checked online, and still, to get a 17" MBP with features comparable to mine would run at least $2,300. And the iPad3 will be the first device with high enough resolution for me to buy, since I have to read professional papers on it, and I bet that'll be expensive.
I'm not happy about the high costs, but I actually need a "mobile desktop" for some serious programming and diagram viewing. If all you need is a little web browsing on the side, then of course an iPad will do fine. Everyone talks about "cheap laptops", but whenever I check on one, it typically has a much poorer screen and a slower processor or smaller hard drive. Thank god Apple still does matte IPS.
Sadly, look how Apple has treated all their other devices that got sidelined. Look at the Mac Pro and the iPod Classic. The one saving grace we have is that Apple uses Macs to develop software, so just maybe they'll keep improving Macs for that reason... And the slowly upwards creeping sales curve.
Here's looking forwards to the day when a device with a 2+ megapixel IPS screen and a 1TB+ hard drive will cost under $1,000...
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Yeah the 2 or 3 Macs I've owned over the last 15 years or so, I've always viewed as a long term investment, but spending $2000 on a computer this day and age just seems a little ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]I'm a student, and my 2007 17" 1920x1200 Macbook Pro cost initially $2,800 (including the student discount), and I then pumped several thousand dollars of upgrades into it, finally morphing the 250GB drive into a 1 TB drive over 4 increments, memory to 4GB, bazillions of external hard drives, etc. I just checked online, and still, to get a 17" MBP with features comparable to mine would run at least $2,300. And the iPad3 will be the first device with high enough resolution for me to buy, since I have to read professional papers on it, and I bet that'll be expensive.
I'm not happy about the high costs, but I actually need a "mobile desktop" for some serious programming and diagram viewing. If all you need is a little web browsing on the side, then of course an iPad will do fine. Everyone talks about "cheap laptops", but whenever I check on one, it typically has a much poorer screen and a slower processor or smaller hard drive. Thank god Apple still does matte IPS.
Sadly, look how Apple has treated all their other devices that got sidelined. Look at the Mac Pro and the iPod Classic. The one saving grace we have is that Apple uses Macs to develop software, so just maybe they'll keep improving Macs for that reason... And the slowly upwards creeping sales curve.
Here's looking forwards to the day when a device with a 2+ megapixel IPS screen and a 1TB+ hard drive will cost under $1,000...
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Yeah the 2 or 3 Macs I've owned over the last 15 years or so, I've always viewed as a long term investment, but spending $2000 on a computer this day and age just seems a little ridiculous.
Hate to burst your bubble but that macbook pro your using is not an IPS panel. Its a tn panel. You can get just as good a panel in a laptop for far less actually, around 1000-1400 can get you about what a 17 inch macbook pro gets you without sales.
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I've been resistant to the iOS... but became an iPhone owner late last year (purely because it was cheaper to go on the $29/month 3GS plan than my existing $30/month pre-paid mobile plan with a crappy non-smart phone)
I can say - I'll never ever want to be rid of my Macs... (Macbook Pro and G5 PowerMac) But I am considering buying an iPad now...
Yes, for general web browsing, they are good... But beyond that... For actual work... Forget it.
My fear now, is seeing those figures... if/when Apple decide MacOS is not worth supporting...
We're seeing merging of iOS and MacOS... Where will that end...
I can say - I'll never ever want to be rid of my Macs... (Macbook Pro and G5 PowerMac) But I am considering buying an iPad now...
Yes, for general web browsing, they are good... But beyond that... For actual work... Forget it.
My fear now, is seeing those figures... if/when Apple decide MacOS is not worth supporting...
We're seeing merging of iOS and MacOS... Where will that end...
Seeing as this is about Macs in the past 30 years I'm going to say Apple is way more control freak then ever. A long while ago I remember having an LCII which was Apple's budget machine at the time. The thing was super easy to open up and was moderately expandable with it's PDS slot and mine was used to house a 68040 card.
Something like this would never happen with todays Macs outside of the Pro. Everything is locked down and designed so that you have to buy something new in just a couple years. I long for the days when we can open up Macs again and change things without requiring dismantling blah blah voiding warranty garbage stuff.
Apple Products are the best, by far!
I think in 2015 every familily in the world will have bought at least one apple product. The iPad, iPhone, iPod, Macbook Pro are so well made that every friend of mine that doesn't own one, only by touching them, now wants to buy at least the iPhone or the iPad. So that speaks for its self!
I think in 2015 every familily in the world will have bought at least one apple product. The iPad, iPhone, iPod, Macbook Pro are so well made that every friend of mine that doesn't own one, only by touching them, now wants to buy at least the iPhone or the iPad. So that speaks for its self!
Price is the biggest stumbling block. Not many average joes will fork out over £1000 for a laptop. Stupid comparison.