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Same here, what i absolutely loooooooooooooooooooooove is when I tell Siri in the morning stop my alarm, "One second, there seems to be a problem, somethings taking a long time, still trying" It's an alarm.....why tf does it take her so long just to do that menial task....?
It’s because the voice recognition mostly happens in the cloud, not on-device, and Apple’s servers aren’t responding quickly enough (or at all) for whatever reason.
 
IMHO, they have done a great job with Maps in the past years and constantly getting better. For 2 years I am using Apple Maps as a 1st choice and in current iOS 17 beta train it's actually comparable to Google Maps. At least in my experience. Using it for car rides, public transport and walking navigation.
I can understand the frustration with Siri, but what is wrong with Music? I am curious.
Agreed with this 100% I prefer Apple Maps and will not use google maps anymore. Haven't had a need.

I'm also interested in hearing the poster's issue with Music.
 
I’m not sure people understand what an OS-level integrated proper AI assistant will mean for smartphones (among other devices).
Once somebody gets it, all other smartphones would instantly become dead phones walking.

And I’m not sure how Apple can come up with something like that after years obsessing over privacy.
And lack of a proper AI assistant would end Apple as we know it.
 
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I’ve always used Apple Maps and liked it better than google but I don’t do anything too complex with it. Just feels like a cleaner more polished interface and it gets me where i need to go. Apple Music i love but don’t have much to compare it too. Nothing else integrated with my massive iTunes library so i have no interest in the competition.
During the summer I've drove over 2000 km and used Apple Maps and Google Maps head2head on the same journey. During one ride, Apple maps noticed big traffic jam ahead of me and suggested detour from the original road that would save me some time. Same with Google Maps. Before I hit the exit from the highway there was another accident on the suggested detour and Apple Maps again suggested another option how to avoid the high traffic. Eventually Google Maps did the same.

At the end of the day, this is what you expect from navigation to do. I agree that Apple was late to the Maps game, but for people like me, who like to use google service as less as possible its a good thing.
 
I have Alexas at home, but use Siri in the car. Every time we ask Siri a question it says “I can’t show you that while you’re driving” or some such nonsense. Does the HomePod do that as it doesn’t have a screen? Or is it because it’s on my phone so would like to show me the result but can’t? Or something else?
 
I'm still baffled that with all the money Apple has, connections and insiders, that they are this late to this market and missed the growth spurt of the last year.

Seems like a common trend with Apple nowadays.
The only thing Apple missed this year were the investment dollars being pumped into AI. We are still deep in the hype cycle that only exists to raise money. They don't need the money so they didn't miss anything.
 
I have Alexas at home, but use Siri in the car. Every time we ask Siri a question it says “I can’t show you that while you’re driving” or some such nonsense. Does the HomePod do that as it doesn’t have a screen? Or is it because it’s on my phone so would like to show me the result but can’t? Or something else?
Well what are you asking Siri while in the car? Are you using Maps or CarPlay while asking Siri? Siri behaves differently depending upon the device you are using and context of the queries.
 
Well what are you asking Siri while in the car? Are you using Maps or CarPlay while asking Siri? Siri behaves differently depending upon the device you are using and context of the queries.
It is using car play. Let‘s say general trivia. How old a celebrity is, for example.
 
Personally, I think their fear is mostly unfounded. Apple's LLM will say some weird or unexpected things which will go viral. People will have a laugh about it and then largely forget it. Just like when Bing's ChatGPT integration could be nudged to start sounding really insane early on. We all laughed and they fixed it. Big whoop.
True! But remember, 30 years after Apple introduced Newton, people still poke fun about the poor performance of the early versions of its handwriting recognition, which was derided in the Doonesbury comic strip and the Simpsons ep where it was portrayed turning "Beat up Martin" into "Eat up Martha" 🤣🤣 So Apple mistakes do have a tendency to hang around!
 
So reading this amusing thread, it sounds like Apple is developing a lot of what SoundHound ai already does? And already integrated into 10 carmaker lines. So I'm just curious .. since SoundHound is literally down the road from Apple HQ, and was struggling until recently, why not embed SoundHound's product into Apple's?
 
Considering how Google and Amazon are decreasing work on their voice assistants due to them not making enough money, I think Apple actually has a shot at taking the first place trophy next year for voice assistant for the first time since they were the only option… That would be a wild shake up in the state of affairs.
I can see this happening given Apple’s notorious history of letting others attempt X product before rolling out their ‘shiny new thing’.
 
Up against conversational AI from Google and Microsoft, Siri as it is today is an existential crisis for Apple. The future of computing is natural human-like interaction. Speech, touch and gaze will supplant the cursor UI Apple made mainstream with the Mac.

Apple’s four latest new device categories, in order Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod and Vision Pro all rely heavily on voice interaction — some of them almost entirely.

For Apple to be so far behind Google/Android — their primary competitor in their trillion dollar iPhone business — in developing natural speech, is an extremely dangerous position, strategically.

Apple has the resources to catch up but as I’ve been saying for years, Tim Cook is an excellent CEO but he lacks the visionary capabilities Steve had and that was inevitably going to catch up to Apple.

Steve knew what he was doing when he acquired Siri and embedded it into iPhone years before Amazon had Alexa and Google did the same with Android. Tim didn’t see what Steve did and neglected Siri for over a decade. I’m glad to see Apple finally paying attention to this space.
 
“Hey Siri, set a 40 minute timer.” — “14 minute timer starting now.”

I had to train myself to use 41 or 39 instead of 40. And for the reverse situation (wanting 14 and Siri understanding 40) there’s no such workaround.

I also always have to consciously add a half-second pause after “Hey Siri” for the software to reliably recognize it.
Have you tried saying the number more slowly
Same here, what i absolutely loooooooooooooooooooooove is when I tell Siri in the morning stop my alarm, "One second, there seems to be a problem, somethings taking a long time, still trying" It's an alarm.....why tf does it take her so long just to do that menial task....?
I have found that if I enunciate troublesome words more slowly, and as clearly as possible, Siri picks up on it. Not optimal behavior for the immense compute power available on iPhone nowadays, agreed.
 
I honestly can’t wait for AI to take over my job. I’ll just sit back and enjoy the show.
 
I'm still baffled that with all the money Apple has, connections and insiders, that they are this late to this market and missed the growth spurt of the last year.

Seems like a common trend with Apple nowadays.

Putting all their focus and gambling on Vision Pro to be the next big thing.
 
Am I going to be the only pedant to point out that the likes of ChatGPT, Bard, Stable Diffusion, Dall-E, etc. are not really AI?

"AI" has become like "3nm" - just a term for marketers to use and mindless mass media to repeat.
 
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