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A new report out today by Recode examined how major technology companies spent a record amount of money lobbying the United States government in 2017, over issues like net neutrality, encryption, immigration, and more. In total, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google spent about $50 million lobbying the government last year, and of that Apple alone spent $7 million.

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Apple's spending on lobbying grew from just over $4 million in 2014 to about $4.5 million in 2015 and 2016, before greatly increasing to $7 million in 2017. In terms of lobbying, this was a record spending amount for the company, and Apple's areas of focus were said to have been encryption and immigration. The last time Apple's lobbying amount emerged was in July 2017, when it was reported that Apple spent $2.2 million lobbying the government between April 1 and June 30, 2017.
Apple, Amazon, Facebook and Google cumulatively racked up a roughly $50 million tab fighting off President Donald Trump and an onslaught of new federal regulations last year -- a reflection that the tech industry is increasingly under political siege in the nation's capital.

And Apple shelled out $7 million -- again, more than ever -- to lobby the U.S. government over the same period. The iPhone giant continued to press forward on issues like encryption and immigration. And the company -- like the rest of the industry -- advocated for the tax reform law recently signed by Trump.
For the other companies, Google spent the most at more than $18 million in lobbying last year, Amazon spent more than $12.8 million, and Facebook spent $11.5 million. Google spent to "stave off new regulations targeting the content and ads" on its search engine and YouTube, while Amazon advocated for "friendlier federal rules" on online sales tax, cloud computing, and package delivery drones. Much of Facebook's 2017 lobbying was focused on its fight against "fake news" in newsfeeds.

Apple has found itself speaking out against the Trump administration for many topics over the past year. In 2017, it began with President Trump's executive order on immigration, then included protections for transgender students, environmental topics like climate change and the Paris climate deal, an overhaul to H-1B work visas, and the protection of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. The fight for DACA has continued into 2018, as well as Apple's support for a program that protects the spouses of those with H-1B visas.

Because of the ongoing lobbying, Recode reported that the technology industry's 2017 political activities "may only presage a tougher and costlier clash with Washington, D.C., in the year to come."

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple Spent $7 Million in 2017 Lobbying the U.S. Government Over Encryption, Immigration, and More
 
Honestly, this does not concern me. If any company would make me feel at ease with their lobbying, it’s Apple.

Let’s be honest, when it comes to ethics, there is no comparison between Apple and the current presidential administration.

I’m an Apple fan, but let’s be honest. There is no ethic whatsoever in any corporation and politicians of any administration. They’re just money and power being disguised as surface ethical speeches.
 
$7 million? That's… a lot less than I would have guessed, actually.

But very interesting how Recode worded their article. "Fighting off President Donald Trump and an onslaught of new federal regulations?" Has Trump's administration really resulted in more of an "onslaught" of regulation than Obama's? I highly doubt that.
 
Honestly, this does not concern me. If any company would make me feel at ease with their lobbying, it’s Apple.

Let’s be honest, when it comes to ethics, there is no comparison between Apple and the current presidential administration.

This is widely up for debate

Thanks for thinking by being one of the first to reply to the thread, you have the moral high ground and ultimate authority on ethics

Tim is a virtue signaling globalist Schumer-like obsessed establishment-liberal-weirdo with dreamers always at the forefront of his mind, ahem low wages.

The $350 billion investment in USA is tremendous but it’s like drudge said:

“Tim discovers America!”
 
Honestly, this does not concern me. If any company would make me feel at ease with their lobbying, it’s Apple.

Let’s be honest, when it comes to ethics, there is no comparison between Apple and the current presidential administration.
Ah yes, because it's so ethical to lobby politicians right?

The mental gymnastics the left does lately are hilarious, and to think I was a long time democrat.
 
As long as that money is being spent on information campaigns and not bribery, I don't have a problem with it. Government needs to make an informed decision without feeling like their personal income depends on it.

I rather suspect Trump can't be bribed with money because he already has so much he doesn't know what to do with it and also him being president is costing him a lot of money yet he takes it on the chin, so that's a good thing.

Personally, I think Apple have been on the right side in most of these debates, but so has Trump. The only one they disagree on is net neutrality, and that was lobbying against lobbying ultimately. I don't know where I stand on that, but so far I have to say it doesn't look like the internet is imploding because of this change, so at this time I don't care much. We'll see if that changes.
 
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I’m an Apple fan, but let’s be honest. There is no ethic whatsoever in any corporation and politicians of any administration. They’re just money and power being disguised as surface ethical speeches.
I would say this too, except that Apple has invested a lot into clean energy. Maybe it was only because it's cheaper in the long-term, but at least they don't actively fight it like some people.

When it comes to other stuff... yeah. They often take the annoyingly fake high road on things.
 
I’m an Apple fan, but let’s be honest. There is no ethic whatsoever in any corporation and politicians of any administration. They’re just money and power being disguised as surface ethical speeches.

And let's be honest, Lobbying is just a word they like to use so they don't have to call it bribery. But that's what it is. My guess is if I try to "Lobby" a police officer that I was not speeding, I would be in jail.
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Ah yes, because it's so ethical to lobby politicians right?

The mental gymnastics the left does lately are hilarious, and to think I was a long time democrat.

If a word is used in a non-threatening manner long enough by politicians, people think it's an innocent part of politics. Lobbying is one such word.
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As long as that money is being spent on information campaigns and not bribery, I don't have a problem with it.

That's just it, it IS bribery. These politicians are given working budgets to hire people to research the info they need to make decisions. Corporations and organizations going to Washington for "information campaigns" is nothing more than very thing you think it's not.

Government needs to make an informed decision without feeling like their personal income depends on it.

Have you seen the net worth of these people when they FINALLY leave office? Not to mention the lifetime benefits we all provide them with. I'm not sure about you, but when I retire, my healthcare is 100% on me. And I might as well forget the social security they steal from me each month.

Fun fact: In light of the recent government shutdown, did you know there is a law that prevents Congress from working without pay during a shutdown? That's right, the very people responsible for NOT shutting down the government continue to get paid during something they are in charge of preventing. (here comes the sarcasm) But those blood sucking leaches of our Military?, they can just suck it up and work for free till they figure it out. Serves them right huh? I mean what have they done for us lately anyway? Politics first right!?
 



A new report out today by Recode examined how major technology companies spent a record amount of money lobbying the United States government in 2017, over issues like net neutrality, encryption, immigration, and more. In total, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google spent about $50 million lobbying the government last year, and of that Apple alone spent $7 million.



Apple's spending on lobbying grew from just over $4 million in 2014 to about $4.5 million in 2015 and 2016, before greatly increasing to $7 million in 2017. In terms of lobbying, this was a record spending amount for the company, and Apple's areas of focus were said to have been encryption and immigration. The last time Apple's lobbying amount emerged was in July 2017, when it was reported that Apple spent $2.2 million lobbying the government between April 1 and June 30, 2017.
For the other companies, Google spent the most at more than $18 million in lobbying last year, Amazon spent more than $12.8 million, and Facebook spent $11.5 million. Google spent to "stave off new regulations targeting the content and ads" on its search engine and YouTube, while Amazon advocated for "friendlier federal rules" on online sales tax, cloud computing, and package delivery drones. Much of Facebook's 2017 lobbying was focused on its fight against "fake news" in newsfeeds.

Apple has found itself speaking out against the Trump administration for many topics over the past year. In 2017, it began with President Trump's executive order on immigration, then included protections for transgender students, environmental topics like climate change and the Paris climate deal, an overhaul to H-1B work visas, and the protection of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. The fight for DACA has continued into 2018, as well as Apple's support for a program that protects the spouses of those with H-1B visas.

Because of the ongoing lobbying, Recode reported that the technology industry's 2017 political activities "may only presage a tougher and costlier clash with Washington, D.C., in the year to come."

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple Spent $7 Million in 2017 Lobbying the U.S. Government Over Encryption, Immigration, and More

Interesting...
 
This is widely up for debate Thanks for thinking by being one of the first to reply to the thread, you have the moral high ground and ultimate authority on ethics Tim is a virtue signaling globalist Schumer-like obsessed establishment-liberal-weirdo with dreamers always at the forefront of his mind, ahem low wages. The $350 billion investment in USA is tremendous but it’s like drudge said: “Tim discovers America!”
I feel sorry for you if my post truly conjured up the emotions, including general disdain and contempt, that you've put on display here. For the record, I'm not a TC fan. However, Apple could do far worse.
 
If there's an increased amount of lobbying, technically shouldn't the quote be that politicians are increasingly under siege, not the other way round?
is a reflection that the tech industry is increasingly under political siege in the nation's capital.
 
Ah yes, because it's so ethical to lobby politicians right?

Are you implying lobbys shouldn’t exist?

That's just it, it IS bribery. These politicians are given working budgets to hire people to research the info they need to make decisions. Corporations and organizations going to Washington for "information campaigns" is nothing more than very thing you think it's not.

Sometimes, an industry expert is just that: an expert in their field. Politicians consulting those is a good thing.

Sometimes, lobbyism is tantamount to bribery, and sometimes, it means a politician is better-informed.
 
And let's be honest, Lobbying is just a word they like to use so they don't have to call it bribery. But that's what it is. My guess is if I try to "Lobby" a police officer that I was not speeding, I would be in jail. If a word is used in a non-threatening manner long enough by politicians, people think it's an innocent part of politics. Lobbying is one such word. That's just it, it IS bribery. These politicians are given working budgets to hire people to research the info they need to make decisions. Corporations and organizations going to Washington for "information campaigns" is nothing more than very thing you think it's not. Have you seen the net worth of these people when they FINALLY leave office? Not to mention the lifetime benefits we all provide them with. I'm not sure about you, but when I retire, my healthcare is 100% on me. And I might as well forget the social security they steal from me each month. Fun fact: In light of the recent government shutdown, did you know there is a law that prevents Congress from working without pay during a shutdown? That's right, the very people responsible for NOT shutting down the government continue to get paid during something they are in charge of preventing. (here comes the sarcasm) But those blood sucking leaches of our Military?, they can just suck it up and work for free till they figure it out. Serves them right huh? I mean what have they done for us lately anyway? Politics first right!?
I admire your enthusiasm, but you don’t know what lobbying is. And this is coming from someone who believes we should have new limits on lobbying.
 
I admire your enthusiasm, but you don’t know what lobbying is. And this is coming from someone who believes we should have new limits on lobbying.

I admire your self-righteousness, but it is what it is. Simple bribery made legal and called something else.
 
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