With the touch bar ESC, you can sometimes just hit it, and sometimes you have to tap it once to wake up the touch bar, then hit it again to get the effect of the key. And you don't know which case you're dealing with unless you actually look down at the keyboard.
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With the touch bar ESC, you can sometimes just hit it, and sometimes you have to tap it once to wake up the touch bar, then hit it again to get the effect of the key. And you don't know which case you're dealing with unless you actually look down at the keyboard.
Definitely the right move given that Macs are used a lot by developers. And many of the popular development editors use the escape key terminate commands and switches mode such as insert and overwrite.
As a result you get articles like this telling you how to modify the editor and your working style to handle the MacBook touchbar
csswizardry.com
As a result you get articles like this telling you how to modify the editor and your working style to handle the MacBook touchbar
Preparing Vim for Apple’s Touch Bar – CSS Wizardry
Apple are replacing their function row with a Touch Bar; how will this affect Vim?
csswizardry.com
Apple absolutely had to provide a physical escape key. If you are any type of prosumer user, a physical escape key is a must. It's used in everything, especially killing processes and escaping back in various apps. Developers and those of us working in databases need it especially. It was straight up bad design to not have a physical escape key. Makes no sense to have an escape key on the Touchbar, because it doesn't belong there and this introduced unnecessary delay when pressing the "digital" escape. Can't stand it.
One of the best moves by Apple in redesigning the Macbook Pro for the audience it's intended for.
I care. Lots of Apple's customers care. It makes a big difference between an instantaneous physical key, versus the delay-inducing Touchbar. No one cares about the appearance. But we care greatly about the utility and performance.
Apple did everything right with the new keyboard, the keyboard key layout, the escape key, and moving the Touchbar. They solved just about every problem/issue many users had with prior models. This new 16" Macbook Pro looks to be a major winner.
One of the best moves by Apple in redesigning the Macbook Pro for the audience it's intended for.
I care. Lots of Apple's customers care. It makes a big difference between an instantaneous physical key, versus the delay-inducing Touchbar. No one cares about the appearance. But we care greatly about the utility and performance.
Apple did everything right with the new keyboard, the keyboard key layout, the escape key, and moving the Touchbar. They solved just about every problem/issue many users had with prior models. This new 16" Macbook Pro looks to be a major winner.
sniffies is that you?
Seriously someone is complaining now that listened to feedback and brought the physical ESC key back?
Unbelievable.
A normal person is not the target audience. This is made for professionials running software where a physical escape key is much better for them. Situations come to mind would be coders for example.
Yes. It is the right call.
Yes Phil is correct.
Professionals care.
It doesn't matter for normal people.
It doesn't look any worse.
It doesn't matter for normal people.
I think I answered everything.
Not only were they right to bring it back but I actually think they improved the aesthetic in doing so. I like the little sliver of metal at the ends of the Touch Bar before the escape/power hey. The symmetry, the contrast between the black key and the brighter case metal....👌
In summary op is wrong on all counts.
In summary op is wrong on all counts.
Absolutely yes. You could hit the escape key fifty to one hundred times a day, and possibly a lot more depending on work. Do you have any idea how annoying it is to stop and check if your escape key press registered, press after press after press after press after press after press after press after press after press after press after press? Did you ever stop and think about the massive amount of time wasted and associated frustration with "waking" the touch bar, and/or having to carefully and deliberately press a digital ESC key to ensure it registers every damn time you press the touchbar?
There's a reason a lot of us use mechanical keyboards at our desktops, and demand the Macbook Pro have a reliable, tactile keyboard with key travel, and a functioning escape key (among other things). Many pro-level users are lightning fast touch typists (I am one), and absolutely must have key presses register without pause, without interruption, and without fail. It must work every time, and quickly. Period.
Your post and responses make plain you haven't thought these things through. And it sounds as though you don't have the workflow necessitating fast input precision. Perhaps you should consider more carefully the opinion and experience of those who do.
AMEN!
Op is clearly purchasing Macs purely for aesthetic reasons, and that's absolutely okay. Unfortunately, Apple catered to these customers for too long while at the same time alienating their professional user base. Nothing wrong with having two separate product lines for consumers and professionals - you know, like having a MacBook with Touch Bar and a MacBook Pro without Touch Bar, or an all-in-one iMac and a modular Mac Pro. Just look at Lenovo or Dell and the ThinkPad vs. IdeaPad and Latitude vs. XPS juxtaposition. Apple learned the hard way that mixing and matching will never work because customer demands on both sides are not only diametrically oppositional but also mutually exclusive in many regards.
A mobile professional using macOS for specific, professional, productivity software is not going to appreciate looks over performance as much as a casual home user with varied interests using various apps for various purposes.
That physical escape key should never have been removed without providing a truly better alternative.
Performance is not just about pure Ghz and Horsepower. You have to be able to harness such power. The lack of physical escape key caused a dip in that performance. It was absolutely the right call to bring this back to improve the performance of the professional power users.
I'd have gone a step further. I would have reintroduced the full function bar for the full width, and kept the touch bar above it.
At least adding a haptic touch feel to the bar helped me at my level. But that isn't enough for the super pros.
The problem with the Touch Bar Esc key is there is a lag to it... and absolutely no tactile feedback.
So yes, I like my keyboard to be functional, not look pretty. I barely ever look at my keyboard.
EDIT: I see that the OP goes around insulting people... ignore list it is!
So yes, I like my keyboard to be functional, not look pretty. I barely ever look at my keyboard.
EDIT: I see that the OP goes around insulting people... ignore list it is!
Those mechanical keyboards can run up to $200 compared to $20 for your typical office keyboard.
But that relative cost is small if you're spending eight hours a day using it and it improves your productivity.
This guy has me rolling. Not for the common man!
Surely you can see, as someone who feels the addition of the physical Esc key SPOILS! the look, someone else might find it separated from the touch bar useful.
Totally Out of the Topic !! I have created thousands of thread here, so are you going to all match up with what questions I am asking at what particular time ?
I agree that the physical ESC key looks weird beside the touch bar. Apple could replace the right side of the command key with physical ESC KEY.