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meanwhile that male model regrets getting the gig and mumbles: Kill me, kill me now.


DID you just gender profile that person!?!?!!?!?!!? youre in for it now... PC principal is going to check you privilege .

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Where have you been? Apple since SJs return has been part of fashion from the clamshell notebook to the iPod to the iMac to the Apple Watch. You think SJ wanted Apple to sell products in various colors because it made the products perform better? Apple products has been a tech fashion accessory for a long time.
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You don't know anything about the fashion world do you? No one smiles at these things.
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Apple's biggest fashion item is actually the iPhone.

Correlating an iThing to clothing fashion because it's a pleasing design is like saying that Apple is in the aircraft manufacturing business because they use a similar material.

I'm not surprised to learn that no one is happy at these events.
[doublepost=1477346513][/doublepost]Today's fashion is tomorrow's absurdity. It looks like these guys are already living in the future.
 
Correlating an iThing to clothing fashion because it's a pleasing design is like saying that Apple is in the aircraft manufacturing business because they use a similar material.

I'm not surprised to learn that no one is happy at these events.
[doublepost=1477346513][/doublepost]Today's fashion is tomorrow's absurdity. It looks like these guys are already living in the future.


Fashion designers are inspired not just by clothing. Sometimes their designers are inspired by cars, places, other unrelated clothing, animals... etc. Apple's designers are also inspired by other things than computers and other tech stuff. Their designed are more fashion than "techie"

The rose gold iPhone for instance is better suited complementing a lady's outfit than other phones.

Also the designs you see at these types of shows are not meant for public release. Think of them like the ultra sleek designs at car shows. These designs will never be put in production. But they hint and what the manufacturers are planning for future cars. Same for the weird stuff you see at fashion shows.
 
I miss the Apple Computer store that sold shirts and things.

I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE an Apple bike jersey, although it would probably be vetoed around here. I almost bought a Microsoft Windows jersey at the store in Redmond. Almost...
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meanwhile that male model regrets getting the gig and mumbles: Kill me, kill me now.

Maybe that's why they all look so angry/mean...
 
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It's hard for me to not see a correlation between Apple having a gay CEO and it plunging headfirst into the fashion sector.

Guys like me are honestly not that interested in the fashion industry, particularly one where men wear dresses, that's for sure. But I can see how Apple is targeting that demographic aggressively. I find every recent design, from iOS to the watch to be decidedly feminine.

Not an indictment, merely an observation.

I hope that future products have a more universal and elegant appeal, like they used to.
 
It's hard for me to not see a correlation between Apple having a gay CEO and it plunging headfirst into the fashion sector.

Guys like me are honestly not that interested in the fashion industry, particularly one where men wear dresses, that's for sure. But I can see how Apple is targeting that demographic aggressively. I find every recent design, from iOS to the watch to be decidedly feminine.

Not an indictment, merely an observation.

I hope that future products have a more universal and elegant appeal, like they used to.

I find that characterization unwarranted. I think the Apple devices are going for the same look they always have: Elegant.

There is nothing about elegance that is inherently female/feminine. It doesn't have ridges, rails, vents, unnecessary 'stuff'. There is nothing 'feminine' about a cell phone, or icons on a screen, or rounded corners, aluminum exteriors, etc.

But, hey, to each their own. But also not all 'gays' are focused on 'the fashion sector'. That's a wildly inaccurate smear stereotype.

Since I see no real difference between the 'old' products' and the 'new' products, I expect to see more of the same. There are always alternatives. The overly plastic and right angled Dells and HP's, but even they are aping Apple's designs.
 
I find that characterization unwarranted. I think the Apple devices are going for the same look they always have: Elegant.

There is nothing about elegance that is inherently female/feminine. It doesn't have ridges, rails, vents, unnecessary 'stuff'. There is nothing 'feminine' about a cell phone, or icons on a screen, or rounded corners, aluminum exteriors, etc.

But, hey, to each their own. But also not all 'gays' are focused on 'the fashion sector'. That's a wildly inaccurate smear stereotype.

Since I see no real difference between the 'old' products' and the 'new' products, I expect to see more of the same. There are always alternatives. The overly plastic and right angled Dells and HP's, but even they are aping Apple's designs.

First off, I was neither "smearing" nor "stereotyping" anyone. I made an observation, and posited a theory based on said observation. I certainly don't want this devolving into a moral discussion regarding LGBT.

I did not say all gays are focused on the fashion sector. There are certainly straight men that are fashion-focused. But to ignore the correlation of women's obsession with fashion, at least in the US, is narrow-sighted. A gay man is certainly "feminized" and will lean stronger that way, in my opinion. Thus I don't think that it is a coincidence that a gay guy takes over at Apple and suddenly it plunges b-deep into fashion, fonts get thinner, we start getting a lot of pink everywhere, and black goes away (until now).

What you call "elegance" I call feminine. There is a distinct design shift at Apple, particularly with iOS devices. I find the use the pastel color palette in iOS (since iOS 7) and in iOS hardware post-Steve Jobs lends a decidedly feminine touch to the devices. The Apple Watch is VERY feminine to me. I'd NEVER buy it. I'd never buy anything rose gold, or baby blue, etc. I would buy something in vibrant colors, like the iPod Nano of old. But Apple has been "softening" the color palette... softening the edges of everything. But they're finally bringing black back. Thank goodness.

Now I agree that colors certainly do not have gender, inherently. But in the US, for example, if you have a baby boy, you get him blue clothes. If it's a girl, pink. Human culture provides the context. Men are hard, women are soft. I come from that binary-gender "culture". Thus I will never wear pink clothes. And it's not OK for a guy to wear a dress in my book, like the guy in the pic. Things have certainly changed, with the concept of fluid genders and all that.

But that's the issue: my culture and that of TC's Apple and the media-based, politically-correct, gay-rights-activist US culture have become incongruous. Everything is being redefined, in the most literal sense of the word. There is no truth. Only current perception.

The iPhone 4 and 5 were "hard", design-wise. The iPhone 6 and 7 are "soft", with the exception of the black ones. Color matters. Up until iOS 6, the skeuomorphic, photorealistic UI design was more gender neutral than the pastel-heavy, flat iOS 7 and up design. It is decidedly "softer".

All that said, this is merely my opinion and I have no right to enforce it when people choose to do the opposite of what I find acceptable, to a degree. But I can argue and express the counterpoint, which is what I'm doing here.
 
First off, I was neither "smearing" nor "stereotyping" anyone. I made an observation, and posited a theory based on said observation. I certainly don't want this devolving into a moral discussion regarding LGBT.

I did not say all gays are focused on the fashion sector. There are certainly straight men that are fashion-focused. But to ignore the correlation of women's obsession with fashion, at least in the US, is narrow-sighted. A gay man is certainly "feminized" and will lean stronger that way, in my opinion. Thus I don't think that it is a coincidence that a gay guy takes over at Apple and suddenly it plunges b-deep into fashion, fonts get thinner, we start getting a lot of pink everywhere, and black goes away (until now).

What you call "elegance" I call feminine. There is a distinct design shift at Apple, particularly with iOS devices. I find the use the pastel color palette in iOS (since iOS 7) and in iOS hardware post-Steve Jobs lends a decidedly feminine touch to the devices. The Apple Watch is VERY feminine to me. I'd NEVER buy it. I'd never buy anything rose gold, or baby blue, etc. I would buy something in vibrant colors, like the iPod Nano of old. But Apple has been "softening" the color palette... softening the edges of everything. But they're finally bringing black back. Thank goodness.

Now I agree that colors certainly do not have gender, inherently. But in the US, for example, if you have a baby boy, you get him blue clothes. If it's a girl, pink. Human culture provides the context. Men are hard, women are soft. I come from that binary-gender "culture". Thus I will never wear pink clothes. And it's not OK for a guy to wear a dress in my book, like the guy in the pic. Things have certainly changed, with the concept of fluid genders and all that.

But that's the issue: my culture and that of TC's Apple and the media-based, politically-correct, gay-rights-activist US culture have become incongruous. Everything is being redefined, in the most literal sense of the word. There is no truth. Only current perception.

The iPhone 4 and 5 were "hard", design-wise. The iPhone 6 and 7 are "soft", with the exception of the black ones. Color matters. Up until iOS 6, the skeuomorphic, photorealistic UI design was more gender neutral than the pastel-heavy, flat iOS 7 and up design. It is decidedly "softer".

All that said, this is merely my opinion and I have no right to enforce it when people choose to do the opposite of what I find acceptable, to a degree. But I can argue and express the counterpoint, which is what I'm doing here.

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