Apple Started Developing A11 Bionic Chip When A8 Chip Was Released Three Years Ago

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Shortly after Apple's iPhone X event this week, the company's silicon chief Johny Srouji and marketing chief Phil Schiller sat down for an interview about its new A11 Bionic chip with Mashable's editor-at-large Lance Ulanoff.


    One interesting tidbit mentioned was that Apple began exploring and developing the core technologies in the A11 chip at least three years ago, when the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus launched with A8 chips.
    Apple's three-year roadmap can change if new features are planned, like the Super Retina HD Display in iPhone X.
    Apple senior executives Phil Schiller, left, and Johny Srouji

    In fact, Schiller praised Srouji's team for its ability to "move heaven and earth" when the roadmap suddenly changes.
    A11 Bionic six-core chip has two performance cores that are 25 percent faster, and four high-efficiency cores that are 70 percent faster, than the A10 chip in iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus. Early benchmarks suggest the A11 Bionic is even on par with the performance of Apple's latest 13-inch MacBook Pro models.

    The A11 chip is more efficient at multi-threaded tasks thanks to a second-generation performance controller that is able to access all six of the cores simultaneously if a particular task demands it.
    The A11 chip also has an Apple-designed neural engine that handles facial recognition for Face ID and Animoji, and other machine learning algorithms. The dual-core engine recognizes people, places, and objects, and processes machine learning tasks at up to 600 billion operations per second, according to Apple.
    Apple's new iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X are all equipped with an A11 chip.

    In related news, Carnegie Mellon University's School of Computer Science has announced that Srouji will take part in a distinguished industry lecture on Monday, September 18 from 5:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. local time.

    Full Interview: The Inside Story of the iPhone X 'Brain,' the A11 Bionic Chip

    Article Link: Apple Started Developing A11 Bionic Chip When A8 Chip Was Released Three Years Ago
  2. jmh600cbr macrumors 6502a


    Feb 14, 2012
  3. jonnysods macrumors 603


    Sep 20, 2006
    There & Back Again
    Its crazy how fast their tech and speeds are moving. I didn't believe they could replace Intel, but now I feel like they really will someday. That will either bring the price down for us, or make their profit margin insanely great. I'm guessing #2.
  4. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    So are they working on the A14 Turbo Maxi Supreme chip now?
  5. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2010
    I would hope so.
    first meeting: "let's choose a name according to the standards of SyFy's viewers" ;)
  6. CerebralX macrumors 6502


    Jun 28, 2013
    Looking for a place of freedom and rationality
    Cue the android fanboys "We did it first 2 years ago" ...
  7. enzoso macrumors newbie


    Jun 28, 2017
    New York City
    All this makes me think is imagine how advanced the tech they're working on NOW is? They're probably lightyears ahead of what people think.

    I always say this but Apple knows where they're going, even though it may take years to get there. Removing the home button was something we knew they were working on for years but people still swear the only reason they decided to do so was because Samsung did it a couple months ago.
  8. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

    Andres Cantu

    May 31, 2015
    Rio Grande Valley in South Texas
    Finally the best at single and multi-core scores in GeekBench.
  9. vicviper789 macrumors regular

    Jun 5, 2013
  10. profets macrumors 601

    Mar 18, 2009
    The work they do with hardware and chipsets is really something else. They’re legitimately 2 years ahead of all other mobile processors.
  11. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

    Oct 13, 2008
  12. iLoveDeveloping macrumors 6502

    Sep 24, 2009
    Amazing they are so far ahead. It's kinda weird how all these companies then come out with the same kind of tech even though a lot of it takes up to 3 years to reach market. Is that a mole sharing sercrets or some weird tech serendipity. Imagine going into their labs now and seeing the iPhone 11 (or iPhone 13 depending on how you are counting with the X) already taking shape with new tech, or even things no one has even thought would be in an iPhone. They could already have fricken apple watches measuring and alerting for heart attacks high blood pressure and diabetes. Dam I would love to work at apple..
  13. yaxomoxay macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2010
  14. tkukoc macrumors 65816


    Sep 16, 2014
    Wish I Was In Space!
    That's not all they've been working on, there's plenty of things in the background that even Steve Jobs had his hand in. Eventually those items will come out, some tech takes a long time.. others just hit right out of the gate. This chip is just the tip of the iceberg of what Apple could do. But they also need to bring their software up to a futuristic state, it's pretty stale these days.
  15. Return Zero macrumors 6502a

    Return Zero

    Oct 2, 2013
    To me, mobile chip design has become Apple's bread and butter. It's really ironic considering their storied history with chip providers :D

    Seriously, they are killing it in this area, and now that they are expanding to other series (S and W), all to huge success, my perspective on Apple's future has never been more optimistic.
  16. iapplelove macrumors 601


    Nov 22, 2011
    East Coast USA
    I'm pretty sure they are done with Touch ID in the iPhones forever.

    Apple states face ID is the future.

    At first I thought they would slip it in next year but I don't think they are looking back, not on flagship iPhone models.
  17. Appleaker macrumors 68020

    Jun 13, 2016
    Seeing as they work on a lot of aspects around that time in advance, it’s not shocking but it does show they they are truly ahead of the competition.
  18. adamjackson macrumors 68000

    Jul 9, 2008
    I feel like this headline isn't surprising though. Intel also works on chips 5+ years in advance as does AMD. A lot of the design is theoretical until the processes can catch up but if you're not putting things together years in advance, you're going to fall behind.

    Great article but I don't think anyone is disputing Apple's chip-game is on point.
  19. lolkthxbai macrumors 65816


    May 7, 2011
    wow, mashable, they interviewed senior executives exclusively after the reveal and they couldn’t supercut the face ID gaffe from the video posted on the top of their page

  20. jiggad369 macrumors regular


    Mar 21, 2016
    Who says they aren't? :p
  21. Return Zero macrumors 6502a

    Return Zero

    Oct 2, 2013
    Design and tech are two vastly different things. The best companies design for future tech, as Apple did here.
  22. vicviper789 macrumors regular

    Jun 5, 2013
    humor must be below your detectable threshold
  23. gsmornot macrumors 68030


    Sep 29, 2014
    No surprise. We talk about projects with the view of a year or more out. What we are working on today would not be if we were just talking about it. Large business moves much too slow to react on the fly. It has to be done with the view of years to come to get everyone in line.
  24. satchmo macrumors 68020

    Aug 6, 2008
    We hear a lot from hardware and marketing folks like Craig and Phil...I wish Apple would have Jony Ive speak to his design decisions.

    I'm sure he wont.
  25. v0lume4 macrumors 68000


    Jul 28, 2012
    I'm really impressed with Apple's approach to 2+ core chip design. Instead of trying to create a four core, or in this case a six core, chip with all six cores running at the same clock speed and largely unutilized; why not try and create two ultrafast cores for the heavy lifting, and then four additional, lower-power cores for additional and specialized tasks? It's brilliant.

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