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Lodsys must be feeling like the space radar traffic controllers on Alderann when the Death Star rocked up and parked in orbit.

WTF IS THAT??!!! And why is the front glowing??!!
 
full text of Apple motion can be found here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-2...lawsuit/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

Interesting quote from there

The value of this license to Apple here lies in Apple’s ability, pursuant to the express terms of the license, to offer products and services embodying the patents in suit to the Developers, in return for theDevelopers’ agreement to pay Apple a percentage of their sales made using Apple’s products and services. The Developers, in turn, are able to use the products and services Apple provides to them free from claims of infringement of the patents in suit under the doctrines of exhaustion and first sale.

now we know part of the reason for the 30% cut ...
 
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Ah, thats the thing where Lodsys disagrees, extra content for in-app purchases come from the developers own servers, not Apples.

No - it all comes from Apple servers. In 99% of the cases it is already in the app before the in-app purchase is done - it is just getting enabled through a flag without any additional downloads (was already downloaded from the apple server). Probably none of the small developers run their own servers.
 
No - it all comes from Apple servers. In 99% of the cases it is already in the app before the in-app purchase is done - it is just getting enabled through a flag without any additional downloads (was already downloaded from the apple server). Probably none of the small developers run their own servers.

in-app updates that unlock a function don't need servers but everything else does, comics, books and all other downloaded in-app content come from external non-Apple servers.

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Apple Invests in Particle Physics

What's that noise i hear? It sounds like charging a deathray or something. Oh well, just another day at Lodsys'office, nothing to worry about i guess.

Heh. When I saw the plans for Apple's new circular building in Cupertino; I immediately thought about about the world's largest circular structure in Switzerland and France: the LHC at CERN.

The 13th sub-basement of Apple's new facility will be an accelerator to create the elusive APT (Anti Patent-Trollium) particle. Don't sue 'em; just annihilate 'em.
 
Fantastic!!

It's times like this that provide me with a great reminder for why I buy Apple products and support them; its a small gesture on their part but truly stands out amongst the large IT corps! Go Apple!!
 
This is only true if Apple ends with a beneficial settlement for Lodsys. Granted, most lawsuits end in settlement instead of judgment by a jury or judge, but just wanted to point out that it's not definite that Lodsys will get a payday from this.

Litigation is always costly and if the outcome isn't totally clear a gamble, hence the many settlements.

Say Lodsys now gets 0.575 from Apple (I don't remember, but this number pops into my mind) they'll now get 0.625 or so as settlements and go away with (still) millions.
 
so they should have sued comics and book apps ... not apps that enable features through in-app-purchase

Why ? The patent as it stands covers the act of submitting feedback from an App to a central location. It's not about unlocking content at all.
 
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The sheapard protect the sheeps from the wolf ... Hope no sheep gets lost

Lodsys isn't a wolf; its one of those annoying little terrier dogs that chases after sheep and causes the more panicky ones to hurt themselves.

Then the shepherd comes along with a shotgun and blows its feckin head off.
 
Why ? The patent as it stands covers the act of submitting feedback from an App to a central location. It's not about unlocking content at all.

I agree - I just was responding to his comment in which he explaining the case as he understood it (in a wrong way) to point out that even if he would be true, the current law suits wouldn't make sense.
 
Why ? The patent as it stands covers the act of submitting feedback from an App to a central location. It's not about unlocking content at all.

Where can i find a summary of these patents? An app needs to submit information to unlock the content and download it. The developers that are sued all download extra content and levels from there servers.
 
This isn't going to go much further, folks. Lodsys went after the devs instead of Apple because they thought they could scare them into compliance. Now that Apple has requested to intervene, we'll see Lodsys back down and withdraw soon enough.

Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
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Lodsys must be feeling like the space radar traffic controllers on Alderann when the Death Star rocked up and parked in orbit.

WTF IS THAT??!!! And why is the front glowing??!!

... that's no moon, it's a....
 
Where can i find a summary of these patents? An app needs to submit information to unlock the content and download it. The developers that are sued all download extra content and levels from there servers.

In all the previous stories about this patent and Lodsys ? MRoogle is your friend.

This isn't going to go much further, folks. Lodsys went after the devs instead of Apple because they thought they could scare them into compliance. Now that Apple has requested to intervene, we'll see Lodsys back down and withdraw soon enough.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

You assume Apple took Lodsys by surprise and they weren't prepared for it. I think you're in for a nasty surprise yourself as you find out Lodsys had planned for all of this.
 
I too am all warm and fuzzy about Apple stepping up and throwing it's weight around. We do however need to remember that this isn't entirely a night in shining armor moment.... the outcome of this lawsuit can/will completely change the way Apples vision is carried out in the future. I would say they have even more at stake than any individual developer named in the lawsuit. There's no way Apple would/could sit this one out.

Mike
 
Is in-app purchasing something that's commonplace on Android? Does Google provide a common API for Android developers to use?
It might be that Lodsys identifies that _everyone_ on iOS are using the technology Apple licensed from Lodsys, and therefor are subjects to Lodsys' patent. As payed applications are less common on Android and developers are less prone to use Marketplace and Google's APIs, Lodsys might just nog give enough damn to worry about them at this point.
 
Is in-app purchasing something that's commonplace on Android? Does Google provide a common API for Android developers to use?
It might be that Lodsys identifies that _everyone_ on iOS are using the technology Apple licensed from Lodsys, and therefor are subjects to Lodsys' patent. As payed applications are less common on Android and developers are less prone to use Marketplace and Google's APIs, Lodsys might just nog give enough damn to worry about them at this point.
The difference is that the Android Market doesn't make anybody any real money. Lawyering 101: Sue the guy with an actual revenue stream.
 
Doing a quick search, it looks like Google is sitting back and letting Apple fight this battle.

It's sad if Google does not join in and defend the developers too.

I do not believe it's the same situation with Google as it is for Apple.

One of the reasons that Apple will be able to win this is because iOS developers play in Apple's closed sandbox. Although some thought this was a bad thing (mostly forum trolls who do not understand the huge costs that Apple incurs to keep the iOS app infrastructure running), it's actually a good thing for the small development houses.
 
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