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Apple still innovative leader in computer industry

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Re: Alpha

Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Why so belligerent?
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Because you're not listening to what we're saying, you're the one who needs to open your mind!

The article mentions innovation, hardware and software. We are all aware that Apple needs to get faster CPUs, get up to speed with bus and memory systems. But in other ways, Apple started a lot of it, firewire, iMac, iPod (and what is out there that's better for MP3s than the iPod, I haven't heard about it), OSX and it looks like a few others soon.

So get off this speed issue. Its not innovation. The speed comes from the chip suppliers, we're not talking about Intel, AMD, Motorola here, we're talking about computer manufacturers.
 
Re: Re: Alpha

Originally posted by dukestreet

So get off this speed issue. Its not innovation. The speed comes from the chip suppliers, we're not talking about Intel, AMD, Motorola here, we're talking about computer manufacturers.
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it's honestly like comparing apples & oranges...no pun intended...;)

the clock cycle #'s are completely irrelevant...a 500 Mhz G4 runs neck to neck with a 1Ghz P4 or P3...whatever it is...

and to be completely honest...unless u can actually sit with the 2 systems...it's hard to really gauge performance accurately...
 
Re: Alpha

Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Why so belligerent?
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Actually because you are acting like a true dumb-a$$ed peecheese user.

As dukestreet has already stated... "So get off this speed issue. Its not innovation. The speed comes from the chip suppliers, we're not talking about Intel, AMD, Motorola here, we're talking about computer manufacturers."

You really thought that a handle such as what you selected would get ANY respect??? Typical peecee user... the class of a slug, and intelligence of a retarded rock.
 
Man please....There is no way a G4 500 can compete with a PIII 1ghz. Only in a dream. A G4 500 might come close with a PIII 800 mhz cpu. Oh...I forgot about those blindfolds and apple showing how its powermac out perfoms a windows based machine in photoshop. There are alot more apps out there than photoshop. I know what innovation is...apple only creates pretty systems. I am sure many manufacturers can deliver a pretty system and call it innovation. If you are calling a pretty shell innovation then so be it. I like the inards of a system and not its cover.
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Oh...I forgot about those blindfolds and apple showing how its powermac out perfoms a windows based machine in photoshop. There are alot more apps out there than photoshop.
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And you know why apple uses photoshop for their tests? Because it's had the hell optimized out of it, for both the G4 and P4, and virtually everyone with a mac is going to get photoshop. That makes it a fair test. They do choose which filters to run for the test, but who can blame them for that?
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Yes,yes,yes this is about speed. If you think making pretty products is innovation then you need to rethink this thread. Apple needs to produce(in your words innovate) a more up to date product. How can they be the innovative leader when they have produced nothing new (well OSX that's about it) and their products are inferior to other products? Some of you guys need to take the blindfolds off and see apple for who and what they are. Sure their products are cool looking(wow) but what about everything else. Ipod....how is that innovation when products just like it were already on the market. Tell me what has apple innovated.
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No, no, no...... it's not just about speed..... what's innovative about 1.6Ghz in a huge piece of black plastic???

No matter what you think about Apples current specified speeds, they're unquestionably the most innovative computer manufacturer at the moment.....

Apple has innovated many, many things..... but lets go with something recent......

Apple were the first to implement USB, and Firewire (they developed Firewire as well)

Or the original iMac, interms of both design, and ease of use...... this set the standard with regards to computer usability



Or the first to implement wireless networking as standard on some models......

Or the Cube....... innovative use of design and engineering, as well as being cooled by convection and thus fanless and almost totally silent.......

Or the iPod, when it first came out, no other Mp3 player had anywhere near the storage space, coupled to the fact that it intergrates perfectly with itunes.... has an intuitive interface, and can be used as a external HD.......

Or take the PowerBook G4..... to fit everything into such a slim case..... is still astounding........ no fully featured PC lapop comes close...... this is an innovative example of product design and engineering beautifully executed..... couped with the use of exotic materials in it's construction.

Or we could take Apples digital hub software........with regards to ease of use, product intergration, and productivity....... nothing... but nothing comes close on the PC platform........

And these are just a select few....... do you really want to talk about ABOUT INNOVATION......... or just about your block of black plastic with it's common as hell Intel processor???
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Man please....There is no way a G4 500 can compete with a PIII 1ghz. Only in a dream. A G4 500 might come close with a PIII 800 mhz cpu. Oh...I forgot about those blindfolds and apple showing how its powermac out perfoms a windows based machine in photoshop. There are alot more apps out there than photoshop. I know what innovation is...apple only creates pretty systems. I am sure many manufacturers can deliver a pretty system and call it innovation. If you are calling a pretty shell innovation then so be it. I like the inards of a system and not its cover.
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so have u not read any reviews or actually paid attention to comparisson tests?!

dude...I tried to be nice....but now u are starting to piss me off with your zealot attitude...

maybe u should just shut your piehole and quit trying to annoy everyone?
 
Yep...my common intel processor will spank anything apple has even some of those overpriced slowermacs .....oops powermacs. As I stated earlier....if a shell is innovation then d*mn I need to get some of my coated and reformed home products looked at.
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Yep...my common intel processor will spank anything apple has even some of those overpriced slowermacs .....oops powermacs. As I stated earlier....if a shell is innovation then d*mn I need to get some of my coated and reformed home products looked at.
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Hey, if it wasn't for apple and the original iMac, you'd probably still be using a boring, ugly beige box for a computer. The shell is all about innovation.
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Yep...my common intel processor will spank anything apple has even some of those overpriced slowermacs .....oops powermacs. As I stated earlier....if a shell is innovation then d*mn I need to get some of my coated and reformed home products looked at.
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Can you please list what is innovative on your Thinkpad please......??

Me thinks this is going to be a short list....... heh heh heh....... :p
 
britboy

I use thinkpads...they haven't changed alot over the years. So that ugly imac deal doesn't apply to me. The new imac is gorgeous though. I would lkie to have one of those.
 
Hey stinkpadrules... I guess you have not heard what most IT departments call the thinkpads... yes, it IS STINKpads... There is a VERY good reason for this... which I WILL NOT get into here, since this is a MAC forum/site.

Continue acting like a troll and you WILL learn what happens to those that make themselves known here... suffice to say, they don't last all that long.

Once again, get it through that protruding brow of yours that we are NOT talking about speed of the processors...
 
Originally posted by ThinkpadsRule
Yep...my common intel processor will spank anything apple has even some of those overpriced slowermacs
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Again, not listening. Now you're really starting to piss me off, too. I hope you're enjoying this, cause you're losing all respect you can hope to get on these boards.

Coming in here and taunting us with crap, not caring to read or look at what we've said and continuing to hold on to your one bit of arguement.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SPEED! WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INNOVATION. NOT INTEL AND MOTOROLA, BUT APPLE AND THE REST OF THE PC INDUSTRY.

Learn the difference, or just keep it to yourself and go bash macs somewhere else.
 
Igav

I have a slowerbook and a stinkpad. The stinkpad is by far the better machine. It destroys it even in apples beloved photoshop tests. The screen is sharper the vid card (64 meg as compared to 16 meg...I think the latest slowerbook has 32 meg)is better and it uses ddr ram...something apple has yet to impliment.
 
My bad...apple is so innovative they have yet to impliment ddr ram into any of their products. Why doesn't apple get off their inovative a$$e$ and innovate a mobo with ddr ram and a faster bus.
 
as much fun as I'm sure AlphaTech is having with this...

it's over...

ThinkPadsRule...I am warning u right now...quit your b.s...if u continue to come to this site and preach about things are irrelevant to a "rumors" website...u will be banned...
 
Did you read the article?

What do you use your laptops for?

Can you name one app that can compare to FinalCutPro for the same amount of money?

Hear's a quote from the article "Sometimes overlooked, but just as important, in our opinion, is Apple's portfolio of software products," Bailey said. "Apple has rolled out an entire suite of software products that enable consumers to capture, edit and distribute digital audio and video using very powerful but easy to use applications."

This is part of the 'innovation'

Stop being an ass and realize you have no idea what you're talking about
 
Originally posted by eyelikeart
as much fun as I'm sure AlphaTech is having with this...

it's over...

ThinkPadsRule...I am warning u right now...quit your b.s...if u continue to come to this site and preach about things are irrelevant to a "rumors" website...u will be banned...
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I'll back that up as a second moderator vote.

Toe the line and play nice, don't incite flaming. You're entitle to your opinion, whether we agree with it or not, its your attitude that's getting you deeper into trouble. And acknowlegde the posts where we try and get you to see what we're talking about, you've refused to change your approach or even look at what we're saying.
 
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