Apple Still Signing 9.3.5 If You Wish To Retrograde - 09/23/16

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by newellj, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. newellj macrumors 601

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    In case anyone's on the fence about iOS 10, I did a DFU restore on my two iPhone 6 phones this morning, September 23rd. With the 10.1 beta out, I would expect Apple to discontinue signing 9.3.5 any day now.
     
  2. Math889 macrumors 65816

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    Probably Apple will stop signing it next week, monday more probably. IOS 10 is better than IOS 9 in every way, performance is good even on older devices. so why anyone would downgrade to IOS 9?
     
  3. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Some people experience various issues with iOS 10 (potentially due to installation issues or something else), other people have bugs that are affecting them that they don't really want to put up with for the moment, other people have particular ways they are used to using their devices that have been changed in iOS 10 and they don't like those changes, etc.
     
  4. Thor_1 macrumors 6502a

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    Agree. I was going to downgrade if I experienced any major issues. So far none. Battery is good and not really seeing any issues. There is a learning curve with a few of the features, but that is normal. Seems most of the problems are with the IP7.
     
  5. newellj thread starter macrumors 601

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    There are a few apps that aren't working with 10. I also don't particularly like the way the native email app displays the inbox in 10.
     
  6. jqc macrumors regular

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    I'll tell you why I downgraded. Apple screwed over non 3D Touch owners, iPhone 6s, SEs and every iPad ever made. How? By using 3D Touch for interactions but not keeping the same convenience for non 3D Touch users and thus making the user experience worse.

    Most relevant example for me: I get a lot of emails for work. On lock screen in iOS 9, swipe left, tap one of 3 options: clear, mark as read, trash. Simple. Effective, two steps. Very fast.

    iOS10: swipe left, only option is view and clear. Your now have to press view, wait for Teh email to come up before you can tap mark as read of trash. Now you have 3 steps and slower because the email must load. Even with 3D Touch you force press and wait for Teh email to load.

    Why???? I can understand making people upgrade but making to less convenient to have a two year old 6. I don't agree with it but I get it. But what about the SE that just came out? Or the iPad Pro? They made he experience worse for no reason. Oh BTW of you're gonna be forced to view, at least have an option to reply from the lock screen. But no you have To go into the app.

    I love apple for heir ease of use and thoughtful interface but it's getting harder to do. They keep making it less convenient while not offering a better alternative at all. Like getting relied of star ratings in music app which many people use. Oh they want you to use the love button instead for Apple Music? Ok fine. Remember when the heart button was there with the controls on the lock screen and control center so it was really easy to heart the song? Gone in ios10. You have to go into the app and either force press the now playing bar at the bottom or if you have be Somg up, you need to tap the little. Dot dot dot icon to bring it up.

    How is that more convenient or a Bette experience??

    Yes there are many reasons to downgrade. Especially if you are on any idevice other than a 6S or 7.
     
  7. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Apparently that's not even the full story about that either, as these options actually seem to differ for some devices/people: Notification actions differ between 5 and 5S
     
  8. newellj thread starter macrumors 601

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    I didn't mention that, but that was another nuisance with iOS 10 on my iPhone 6 phones.

     
  9. SoYoung macrumors 6502

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    Notifications are also too bright and harder to read, especially when you woke up. iOS 7-9 notifications was perfect. Just for this, is a good reason to downgrade.
     
  10. jqc macrumors regular

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    there is a big difference between change for change's sake which in the long run I think is good and change that destroys utiliy and convenience without offering a better alternative. Not sure what is wrong with apple these days, but they seem to be doing a lot more of the latter.
     
  11. Math889 macrumors 65816

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    I have an SE . And I don't miss 3D Touch is a useless feature for me
     
  12. azfalcons Suspended

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    Did you want some cheese for all that whine
     
  13. jqc macrumors regular

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    What whine? I'm stating fact. They're ok away a useful feature for no reason.

    If you're not going to post something constructive do everyone a favor and shut up.
     
  14. Math889 macrumors 65816

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    Not downgrading my iPhone to iOS 9 because I love raise to wake . Downloading iOS 10.1 now
     
  15. smorrissey macrumors 6502a

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    Battery issues pretty much even with a clean install for many of us (not all). They could stop signining next tuesday but after 10.0.2 being still buggy i doubt it. Right now they are signing 3 firmwares....
     
  16. Math889 macrumors 65816

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    10.1 beta 1 battery life is better compared to 10.0.2
     
  17. jonobin macrumors regular

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    Apple made a mess with all that notifications stuff in iOs 10 in devices older than iPhone 6s/7, starting from the design(ok, this is subjective) and ending with the way the user interacts with them. The way they were in iOs 9 was pretty good.
     
  18. Ternary macrumors regular

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    My instinct is that Apple will continue signing iOS 9.3.5 until they fix the iTunes backup security problem in iOS 10, and that as soon as that update releases, they'll close 9.3.5 and 10.0.1 together.
     
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  20. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    What does that mean? o_O
     
  21. smorrissey macrumors 6502a

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    my bad i just correct it, meant jailbreak.
     

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