Apple Stops Signing iOS 11.3 Following iOS 11.3.1 Release

[C DM]

NOPE ... running 10.3.3 on both my 1P7 and iPP 9.7 - running smooth as all get out, so absolutely no reason to move to the dumpster fire Apple calls iOS 11.

How does that negate anything that I mentioned?
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Huh? No one was talking about "finding an older version and downgrading to it."

And yes, a large chunk of it is unsupported devices, but in a world where Apple actively keeps downloading iOS 11 to compatible devices and prompting users to install it over and over and over, it's telling just how many people choose not to install it:
https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

Note the 6-7% of iPhone 6 and 6S users who are sticking with iOS 10 and before.

Well, to downgrade, if Apple keeps on signing any version basically, one would need to find that version somewhere and go through the process of downgrading. It's not likely that the vast majority of typical users would even know how to do that or actually bother going through it all. This is in relation to the part about that "infinitesimal" aspect of it.

 

[Eorlas]

It still makes no sense why Apple stops signing their own iOS especially when they still work perfectly on new and older devices. Let the customer choose which iOS they want to keep on their phone. If the iOS can be verified that it belongs to an apple approved device why don't they continue to sign their own updates and let the customer take the risk (which is really low of anything happening)

The reason is because they are always graphing and charting comparing how many are on the latest iOS compared to android when they stop signing prior iOS that's how they achieve those pie results.

Because then we could be jailbroken and make the device more user-friendly.

 

[Scotty2Hotty]

Because then we could be jailbroken and make the device more user-friendly.

Which is why my 6s Plus is "stuck" at 10.2... it's jailbroken! I just happen to be at iOS 10.2 when Yalu102 was released - so I lucked out.

 

[thadoggfather]

I theorize there's some exploit they're trying to conceal. "... Nothing to see here. Keep it moving!"

It was signed for only 35 days - seems quick

Nailed it:

http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-11.3-...o-to-give-kernel-debugger-talk-at-mosec-2018/

 

[Shirasaki]

And? Not even Apple supports iOS 10.

Downgrade for him nonetheless. It’s sad.

 

[B4U]

Your IT must be stone age if they can’t support the latest version by now.

No, they forced us to get iOS 11...
There was a grace period for a long time...
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What they refuse to support is iOS 10, not iOS 11. He clearly says upgrading to iOS 11 is a “downgrade”.

It is a downgrade in some aspects.
Namely, the garbage app store is still way too complicated to use when comparing to what it was before.
The first page it opens looks more like a giant paid ad/billboard when comparing to iOS 10, where it was listing all the featured apps in one page.
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Huh? No one was talking about "finding an older version and downgrading to it."

And yes, a large chunk of it is unsupported devices, but in a world where Apple actively keeps downloading iOS 11 to compatible devices and prompting users to install it over and over and over, it's telling just how many people choose not to install it:
https://david-smith.org/iosversionstats/

Note the 6-7% of iPhone 6 and 6S users who are sticking with iOS 10 and before.

Slowly raising my hand here to self identify...
(Hated iOS 11 so bad that I had to install the tvOS profile just to stop the constant nagging on the iPad mini 4)

 

[I7guy]

Yeah, I'm on a 6S with 10.3.3. I've traditionally been an early adopter, including as an Apple beta tester long before public betas were even a thing. But the volume and severity of iOS 11 bug reports gave me cause for pause—and no, to pre-empt what I know someone will say, I'm not just talking about people complaining on Macrumors. And while those bugs are pretty much all ironed out now, every time I think about switching to iOS 11, I realize I can't actually find a very compelling reason to make change, and there are a few things I actively dislike about iOS 11. If it ain't broke...

I'll probably do the switch eventually, if for no other reason than that the current iOS gets more love when it comes to critical security vulnerabilities. But I can't fault anyone who has decided to stick with iOS 10, and there are myriad reasons why that's a perfectly reasonable decision.

My daily driver is 11.4b3 on a 6s. The earlier versions seem to be inline with the amount of noise on every release but it took them a bit longer to sort out the issues than previously. (This version-along with a new battery-is so good I don’t even have the compunction to upgrade, although thinking will get the now rumored new 6.1 in lcd model.)

I am satisfied with this beta..11.4 will be a good release.

 

[john123]

My daily driver is 11.4b3 on a 6s. The earlier versions seem to be inline with the amount of noise on every release but it took them a bit longer to sort out the issues than previously. (This version-along with a new battery-is so good I don’t even have the compunction to upgrade, although thinking will get the now rumored new 6.1 in lcd model.)

I am satisfied with this beta..11.4 will be a good release.

Glad it's working for you. All I was doing was commenting on the general attitude among forum-using ADCers. The opinion among a lot of long-time active posters (the well known names) was that the release version of iOS 11 was quite a bit worse than its historical counterparts.

 

[I7guy]

Glad it's working for you. All I was doing was commenting on the general attitude among forum-using ADCers. The opinion among a lot of long-time active posters (the well known names) was that the release version of iOS 11 was quite a bit worse than its historical counterparts.

I’m agreeing it took them a bit longer to straighten things out, by a few months.

But opinions vary as to how one perceives an release. The best gauge is the official adoption rates from Apple. There are those who won’t update just because. But I’ve never had any real issues with updates, so personally I just go for it.

 

[john123]

Yeah, I'm on a 6S with 10.3.3. I've traditionally been an early adopter, including as an Apple beta tester long before public betas were even a thing. But the volume and severity of iOS 11 bug reports gave me cause for pause—and no, to pre-empt what I know someone will say, I'm not just talking about people complaining on Macrumors. And while those bugs are pretty much all ironed out now, every time I think about switching to iOS 11, I realize I can't actually find a very compelling reason to make change, and there are a few things I actively dislike about iOS 11. If it ain't broke...

I'll probably do the switch eventually, if for no other reason than that the current iOS gets more love when it comes to critical security vulnerabilities. But I can't fault anyone who has decided to stick with iOS 10, and there are myriad reasons why that's a perfectly reasonable decision.

I finally made the plunge last night. My phone had been acting a little funky, so I figured what the heck.

No major issues so far. In fact, it’s noticeably faster on my iPhone 6S. (Had I checked before to see if my processor was running at peak? No. Am I dumb? Definitely.) There’s a little bit of graphics lag in a game I play that wasn’t there before, but meh.

My only serious hiccup was the documented one about search not finding my apps. That’s some boneheaded design there, Apple. Anyway, I switched a few toggles and I’m back in business.

 

[JackieInCo]

Which is why my 6s Plus is "stuck" at 10.2... it's jailbroken! I just happen to be at iOS 10.2 when Yalu102 was released - so I lucked out.

I have a 6S on iOS 10 that is jailbroken and a 6+ and iPad Mini 2 on iOS 9 that is jailbroken.

I used the latest Electra to jailbreak two SEs that I have but I'm disappointed that there just aren't many tweaks being developed anymore. I only jailbroke those two phones because I don't really use them. I've kept my 7+, 6S+, 8+ and an iPad Pro on 11.1.2 in hopes that things would get better and I would eventually jailbreak these but I'm about ready to give up hope and just upgrade to the latest iOS versions.

 

[I7guy]

I finally made the plunge last night. My phone had been acting a little funky, so I figured what the heck.

No major issues so far. In fact, it’s noticeably faster on my iPhone 6S. (Had I checked before to see if my processor was running at peak? No. Am I dumb? Definitely.) There’s a little bit of graphics lag in a game I play that wasn’t there before, but meh.

My only serious hiccup was the documented one about search not finding my apps. That’s some boneheaded design there, Apple. Anyway, I switched a few toggles and I’m back in business.

Not to mention a whole bunch of security updates were addressed in the year since 10.3.3.

 

[john123]

Not to mention a whole bunch of security updates were addressed in the year since 10.3.3.

I'll probably do the switch eventually, if for no other reason than that the current iOS gets more love when it comes to critical security vulnerabilities. But I can't fault anyone who has decided to stick with iOS 10, and there are myriad reasons why that's a perfectly reasonable decision.