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You mean the Apple store union employees who sell and promote products made by slave labor in China with elements mined by children in the Congo?

Or are the human rights all about pampered, first world retail employees who can simply move to another job if they’re not happy?

Unionizing these stores is an ironic joke…
If anything you sound more judgemental of the countries who are still developing and slowly acquiring statesmanship competencies in accordance with their unique culture and history.

I don't believe even for a second that you really do "care a lot" and want Congo and China to become on par with the US in terms of these competencies. Your manipulation is so easy to see through and comes across as nothing short of passively aggressive bullying for your own gain.
 
Not directing this comment at you personally because everyone is different, but in my experience good, high performing, high quality employees usually have no trouble negotiating directly.
A good Apple corporate employee is subservient to Apple, which has to make negotiating hard. And a technician that works at an Apple Store may not have needed to put much into their social skills if they are devoted to programming or whatever, spending time intuiting I/O architecture instead of spending a lot of time honing their power move skills in negotiation tactics. If unions are as good at strong-arming companies as a lot of people seem to think, if they are that big of a threat, then that's the kind of people you want negotiating for you. You want to send some manipulative thugs like these terrible unions corporations are telling us to be scare of.
 
Americans are struggling and there’s no one left to defend them. They’re finally standing up for benefits and security. All companies have to do is offer something similar, and the unionizing will stop since it’s a form of protesting against capitalistic abuse.

The sad truth is that the companies will just replace workers with automation.
 
I'd always prefer to be in a union. Negotiating stuff in person can be very intimidating and I'd rather someone else do it for me.
That doesn’t bode well for you. Take a toastmasters clsss. Even if you don’t have to ever present before a crowd, it can teach you some excellent skills for negotiating. I took some years ago and it really helped!
 
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The sad truth is that the companies will just replace workers with automation.

LOL! So back to caves and huts then?

How exactly would you feed the world without automation and the technology that enables it?
How exactly would you feel about paying for an iPhone where each component on the boards was soldered by hand? Never mind the size they would be and the cost if this were the case.
How would you feel about waiting to pay tolls again instead of EZ-Pass?
How would you feel about preparing Apple's financial statements off paper ledgers?
Would you like to go back to boats being man-powered by oars? That'll be great for commerce! Horse and buggy for trucking? These are all forms of "automation".

Etc, etc, etc.
 
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That doesn’t bode well for you. Take a toastmasters clsss. Even if you don’t have to ever present before a crowd, it can teach you some excellent skills for negotiating. I took some years ago and it really helped!
Why don't I just pay you to negotiate for me then, and instead of going to Toastmasters I can do something fun instead.
 
You don’t need a union when you’re a in demand hardware or software engineer that can find a job paying 10-30% more than Apple in 3 days time.

tell that to my former brother-in-law who had to train his own replacement from -----(country name with 5 letters). He was making a little over $200k per year as a programmer for about 10 years. The company brought over 3 people. His replacement was making $60k each. I guess if I was his company's CFO, I would have done the same. At least they were decent enough to keep him on for a whole year, then paid him a 12-month severance package with full benefits. He used the money to travel to Africa and hunted ------------ and ------ (don't want to arouse anger of PETA supporters here, so I won't name the animals). When he returned after 6 months, he open a Dunkin Donuts near the entrance to a major university. He ended up doing quite well... man, those college kids really love sugar-coated treats. Last I heard, he opened up 3 more locations.(all near big colleges or student housing)
 
I'd always prefer to be in a union. Negotiating stuff in person can be very intimidating and I'd rather someone else do it for me.

Why don't I just pay you to negotiate for me then, and instead of going to Toastmasters I can do something fun instead.

What I get from your posts is that you are either too scared or bored to take an interest in your own affairs. Sad way to go through life but have it your way.

Also, that attitude isn't something I would look for in an employee. If negotiating for yourself is too intimidating I doubt you would fight for your ideas in the workplace. You might have great ideas but if you are too timid to fight for them you aren't of much use to me as an employee.
 
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LOL! They can’t even get them to come back to the office!

Apple's board needs to hire a new sexy hot CEO. I was just thinking the other day about all the companies that I worked for since 1986. The company that I really enjoyed working for was the one with a super hot CFO(who later became the CEO). She was so hot, I remember waking up every morning and going to work early for no reason.(something that I had never done, except back when I was in 2nd grade) I quite the company the year after she left. I totally lost the motivation to go to work.
 
Again, laughable. No where can I find anything that counts as true intimidation. Yes, managers received "anti-union" scripts and employees were required to attend meetings with "anti-union" messaging, this to me is just Apple ensuring that their employees hear both sides of the story. What here forced the employees to change their minds from the 70% that initially were pro-union? Were they threatened with violence or something? LOL! These employees took in all available information and simply changed their minds! Now the initial group, having lost, are claiming "intimidation".

Sounds to me like a small handful of employees wanted to unionize and tried to get the rest of their co-workers to join but when those co-workers were given both sides of the story they changed their minds.

If receiving equal information from both sides is "intimidation" or "coercion" then we have a problem.
Yeah yeah, leave Britney *cough - cough - Apple* alone!
 
Americans are struggling and there’s no one left to defend them. They’re finally standing up for benefits and security. All companies have to do is offer something similar, and the unionizing will stop since it’s a form of protesting against capitalistic abuse.
That’s based entirely on opinion and perspective though. For me, my work and my benefits are completely enough. But for others, enough is never enough. They’ll never be satisfied and it’s sad to see where the world is nowadays. Very selfish and self-serving.
 
That’s based entirely on opinion and perspective though. For me, my work and my benefits are completely enough. But for others, enough is never enough. They’ll never be satisfied and it’s sad to see where the world is nowadays. Very selfish and self-serving.

Your post is literally very selfish and self-serving.
 
Interesting how many corporate apple-polishers are in here, who don’t even hesitate to put human rights aside for an iPhone.

Good to see American employees fighting for their rights, go for it, more stores will join.
Human rights? Are they forced to work in unsafe or degrading positions? What actual “human right” is being put aside in Apple stores? Fact is, no one knows if it’s “we have to work with a sharp stick in our back” or “the manager doesn’t say ‘good morning’ in the tone I prefer”. From the “demands list” leaked from Towson, it appears to lean towards the latter.

These 32 lemmings probably couldn’t resist the extra paycheck Apple offered to boot human rights in general.
If Apple’s working conditions were better, they wouldn’t care for the Unionization at all, there is a reason why Apple is trying hard to avoid it.
How are the conditions bad? They have to stand?

Good to see Apple being hit from all sides around the world.
Miserable working conditions, anticompetitive behavior and customer spoon-feeding will cost them a fortune, it’s the only language they understand.
“miserable work conditions”? In what way?
 
We would need to ask the ones who voted to unionise to be sure.
Indeed. I’m supposing a search might bring up something, but not for awhile, maybe? My ideas on if the union is good or bad is wholly based on “why did they unionize”. If they’re unionizing because Apple requires little sharp glass Apple logos in every shoe as they’re working, then that’s uncomfortable. So, if every Apple store has pained employees and the union ones are now not, GREAT. If they’re unionizing because the textile blend and sizes of the shirts make them uncomfortable… I mean, sure, maybe union for that as well? I’m certain those two aren’t it, though.
 
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Apple's board needs to hire a new sexy hot CEO. I was just thinking the other day about all the companies that I worked for since 1986. The company that I really enjoyed working for was the one with a super hot CFO(who later became the CEO). She was so hot, I remember waking up every morning and going to work early for no reason.(something that I had never done, except back when I was in 2nd grade) I quite the company the year after she left. I totally lost the motivation to go to work.
Was it this place?

 
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There was a SCOTUS ruling that basically said companies are people. So that’s how it’s been ever since.
Yeah, that’s why HR kept retail pay/conditions lower for the last decade+, but now that unions enter the picture, now HR breaks-out the “Relationship” word, and how “worried” they are about “the relationship” with their retail employees.
 
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