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I'll be happy as long as Apple still allows you to buy an unlocked iPhone for full price on their website. I do not like two year contracts.
 
Did you include the discount per line when on Next? Looks like the 15gb plan as a -$25 discount when each line is on Next. Thats $1800 over 2 years...
The pricing includes the $25 discount as well as the cost of the phones on the NEXT 18 plan.
 
They're still selling the 2 year but I can understand where they'd want to push NEXT.

I just hope Apple gets their software act together, because the iTunes sync bugs in iOS 8.3 are not fun. I've never had problems before iOS 8 or Mavericks for that matter.
 
Once AT&T makes me switch to next they can say good bye to my money. No matter how you try to do the math next is more expensive for me. $92 a month for my 550 family talk plan with my iPhone and parents flip phone with my discount. Yes I pay an upfront cost for the iPhone, but upgrading every year I make the upfront cost or more back selling the old iphone.
 
You also have to factor in $40 upgrade fees for each line. Usually with the upfront cost of about $300 per phone and the $40 upgrade fee factored in it's


I definitely agree that it's not better for everyone. If I see an account that will end up paying more on the new plans I obviously don't recommend that they switch. I think it's better for the majority of people though. The average user isn't using very much data and they're overpaying to keep their unlimited plan.
I go into the store when I upgrade and have them waive the upgrade fee... I've never paid it.
 
I'll be happy as long as Apple still allows you to buy an unlocked iPhone for full price on their website. I do not like two year contracts.
That's what I plan on doing with the iPhone 7, hopefully Apple will make the sim-free unit available on release day.
 
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Once AT&T makes me switch to next they can say good bye to my money. No matter how you try to do the math next is more expensive for me. $92 a month for my 550 family talk plan with my iPhone and parents flip phone with my discount. Yes I pay an upfront cost for the iPhone, but upgrading every year I make the upfront cost or more back selling the old iphone.

then the next question is where will you go?

all other providers are the same as the NEXT plan. so then what?
 
No move is EVER done for the customer. It's always done for the corporation. Basically, AT&T wants you to upgrade your phone often, and always pay that monthly fee of phone installments, plus your regular cell plan bill. Just another way of adding $20+ to your monthly bill. Maybe they reduce a few rates for data here, then boom, they'll get back that money with this new "tax."

I'm out of the phone game. I have an iPhone 5, but no plan. I just use it as an iPod Touch with GPS. If I ever get back in, I would do something like the 100 min talk/unlimited data from T-Mobile for $30/month. Talk is the least of what I do on my phone. I'd take a 30 minute talk / 5GB plan for $20/month if I could. Then I'd just talk over the data using Hangouts :)

Actually, give me an iPod Touch with data and I'd be in heaven.
 
Correct, but they are offering NEXT at the same monthly price. Not a deal, a win for AT&T

When you're on NEXT, you get the discounted $15 per month and not the $40 per month. So, it's about the same.
 
So if I bought a 128GB iPhone with this new at&t thing, I would pay regular monthly fees like I pay with my current contract, AND an additional $31.64 until I paid off a $949 phone. Is that right? If so, that's really stupid. Why not sell it to me at $499 with a 2 year contract?
 
No move is EVER done for the customer. It's always done for the corporation. Basically, AT&T wants you to upgrade your phone often, and always pay that monthly fee of phone installments, plus your regular cell plan bill. Just another way of adding $20+ to your monthly bill. Maybe they reduce a few rates for data here, then boom, they'll get back that money with this new "tax."

I'm out of the phone game. I have an iPhone 5, but no plan. I just use it as an iPod Touch with GPS. If I ever get back in, I would do something like the 100 min talk/unlimited data from T-Mobile for $30/month. Talk is the least of what I do on my phone. I'd take a 30 minute talk / 5GB plan for $20/month if I could. Then I'd just talk over the data using Hangouts :)

Actually, give me an iPod Touch with data and I'd be in heaven.

An iPad touch with data is like... BOOM you're back in the phone game
 
Ok, I went to the whistleout site to see I could figure out the best option for me and my wife. Buy outright or lease with next. Here are the numbers whistleout showed:
 

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So if I bought a 128GB iPhone with this new at&t thing, I would pay regular monthly fees like I pay with my current contract, AND an additional $31.64 until I paid off a $949 phone. Is that right? If so, that's really stupid. Why not sell it to me at $499 with a 2 year contract?

depends on if you're on a grandfathered plan with a low monthly rate -or- the new super expensive mobile share plans...
 
Ok, I went to the whistleout site to see I could figure out the best option for me and my wife. Buy outright or lease with next. Here are the numbers whistleout showed:
those calculators are crap.

you gotta do the math yourself and factor in resale value.
 
Why is it so hard to see that these plans are really no worse? It's just unbundling and transparency. And if you're going to keep your phone for more than two years you save money.

Agreed. NEXT 24 vs current 2 year are about the same, actually NEXT is about $150 cheaper in my calculations (with a 6GB or higher data plan).

But not so for grandfathered plans, NEXT + MS is way more expensive
 
No move is EVER done for the customer. It's always done for the corporation. Basically, AT&T wants you to upgrade your phone often, and always pay that monthly fee of phone installments, plus your regular cell plan bill. Just another way of adding $20+ to your monthly bill. Maybe they reduce a few rates for data here, then boom, they'll get back that money with this new "tax."

I'm out of the phone game. I have an iPhone 5, but no plan. I just use it as an iPod Touch with GPS. If I ever get back in, I would do something like the 100 min talk/unlimited data from T-Mobile for $30/month. Talk is the least of what I do on my phone. I'd take a 30 minute talk / 5GB plan for $20/month if I could. Then I'd just talk over the data using Hangouts :)

Actually, give me an iPod Touch with data and I'd be in heaven.

Except for Apple. Everything they do is for the consumer. :D
 
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Thanks for the tip, via phone and chat back in September - they would NOT budge
IT's got to be in person and you have to be okay with potentially walking away without an upgrade. It also helps to go at the end of the month when they need to meet their sales goals.
 
I think the big difference, is with the two year contract, at the end the phone is yours, but with Next, it's AT&T's and is sent back for the new phone. So when you factor in the 2 years, then deduct what the outgoing phone sells for on eBay, it changes the equation.

That's not true at all.

You keep the phone with AT&T Next.

The only way you DON'T keep the phone is if you decide half-way through making payments to get a new phone. AT&T wipes out your remaining balance for the old phone. In doing that, AT&T wants your original phone back.

But if you make all the payments, you KEEP your phone with AT&T Next.
 
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