Sorry I just wanted to verify that the Mac Studio can indeed work on the (above mentioned) Huawei Mateview as the startup Monitor? It doesn’t have Thunderbolt among other things. But it does look like a really good monitor at a much cheaper price than the Apple Studio Display.
He's praising contrast, but from what I can see from his video the Studio Display is losing a lot of detail in the dark areas... ?
Yes, the MateView will work fine with a Mac Studio. Just connect using an HDMI cable or the USB-C cable it comes with (the Thunderbolt ports on Macs use USB-C connectors and output using the DisplayPort protocol, so you can just connect one of the Thunderbolt ports to the monitor's USB-C port).
That’s what I thought. The Studio Display image looks too dark. The Ultrafine looks to have the better image quality.
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I was just about to make this same point. I have the SD and it looks pretty great for a standard IPS display...
You’ve never worked for a big company that does bulk purchasing, and it shows
Apologies, it should have been “It was said that” as that was the remark in an earlier post that I was referring to. So, when you said that “LG makes the panel, but everything else is from Apple, including the calibration.” following on after a post I was responding to that said the LG display was an Apple display with LG branding, it seemed that you were saying that, in that particular LG display, everything was Apple.
Oh, I have, and if an employee is ordering anything standard (result of a company’s bulk purchase), the employee made the choice by picking from a list of standard options on an intranet site, and the Apple monitor would be one of several choices. If the employee reviews the configuration of the monitors available and chooses one which doesn’t meet their needs, it’s on them.
Yes, every company that has a retail business has a profit share scheme with every vendor that sells products in their store. That’s how it works. The manufacturer sets the suggested retail price (it’s even called MSRP) and the retailer usually has the option to sell for more or less than that if they like. Incidentally, one company’s manufacturing and distribution organization generally doesn’t defer their pricing to another company’s CEO.
He's playing HDR video on the ASD vs SD on the LG. That might screw around with the blacks a tad.
Say that to all the music companies who agreed to sell all their songs on iTunes for $0.99 when Steve Jobs walked into the room and demanded it and gave zero wiggle room.Yes, every company that has a retail business has a profit share scheme with every vendor that sells products in their store. That’s how it works. The manufacturer sets the suggested retail price (it’s even called MSRP) and the retailer usually has the option to sell for more or less than that if they like. Incidentally, one company’s manufacturing and distribution organization generally doesn’t defer their pricing to another company’s CEO.
Other than that, yeah, 5K monitors are rare, cost more to produce than 4K monitors, and, as a result, there aren’t any that cost less than $900. Just basic supply and demand.
Welp...I'm about as expert in this as the rest of us posting in here (which is to say none of know the details of the LG5k situation), but I do have a small bit of experience in retail reselling through large businesses.
but frankly neither is any other company in the world. At the Apple-LG level I'd wager none of us have any idea what the details of the LG5k deal were/are. I could see a scenario where they worked out a profit sharing deal but Apple probably didn't care much about the rounding error level money they received from LG5k sales. I'd guess it was more about the continued production of the panel used in the 5k iMac and iMac Pro.
This is true but it also highlights what I consider to be the most frustrating difference between macOS and Windows. Windows allows users to just increase the size of text without affecting the resolution of the rest of the interface. macOS forces users to throw away resolution just to get reasonable text sizes. Everything gets scaled when you want to make text larger. That's why Mac users (of which I am one) are forced to pay a massive premium to get 5K resolution on a 27" monitor, only to turn around and downscale it. This single aspect of macOS was almost enough to make me return my new MacBook Pro and switch back to Windows. There are a lot of great things about macOS but its behavior with external displays is not one of them.
This was a truly disappointing product introduction on a number of fronts. I'm willing to pay more for an Apple monitor but make it bigger, make it ProMotion, and make it HDR. I couldn't care less about the gimmicks. And, no, I won't pay $5k for an XDR monitor.
First impressions of the Apple Studio Display have now been shared by select media outlets and YouTubers, providing a closer look at Apple's latest standalone display. Reviewers praised some aspects such as the display's built-in speaker and microphone setup, while others felt that "the Studio Display in its current state is a confounding miss."
Priced starting at $1,599, the Studio Display is Apple's first new external display since the 2019 Pro Display XDR. It features a 27-inch 5K Retina display with up to 600 nits brightness, P3 Wide color, True Tone, one Thunderbolt port, three USB-C ports, a built-in A13 Bionic chip, a three-microphone array, a 12-megapixel f/2.4 Ultra Wide camera with Center Stage, and a six-speaker sound system with support for Spatial Audio.
An angle-adjustable stand is included in the price of the display, but for an extra $400, there is a tilt and height-adjustable stand, and a VESA mount adapter option that lets the display be used in portrait or landscape orientation. There is also a $300 upgrade for nano-texture glass that minimizes glare in workspaces with bright lighting.
Design
Reviewers generally admired the slim, all-aluminum design of the Studio Display. Gizmodo's Phillip Tracy highlighted the Studio Display's passive cooling design elements and criticized the display's rubbber feet:
Display Quality
CNBC's Kif Leswing felt that the display quality was adequate but unimpressive:
The Verge's Nilay Patel criticized the Studio Display's lack of HDR and ProMotion:
Tracy was similarly disappointed at the lack of true blacks due to the Studio Display's LCD panel:
The specifications of the display were consistently flagged as disappointments by reviewers given the Studio Display's price point.
Microphones and Speakers
Patel praised the Studio Display's built-in microphone and speaker setup:
TechRadar's Matt Hanson praised the microphones, but found the Studio Display's support for Spatial Audio less impressive:
Tracy likewise lauded the speaker setup, saying that "the sound quality is better than anything I've ever heard out of a monitor." TechCrunch's Brian Heater said that while the microphone setup is marketed as "studio quality," for users "planning to do much more than just webconferencing, I'd recommend plugging an external mic into one of the aforementioned ports."
Camera
A major area of concern among reviewers was the built-in 12-megapixel camera. Patel said that "the Studio Display's headline webcam feature works so badly that it's virtually unusable."
Other reviewers generally agreed with the disappointing results from the built-in webcam, with Heater commenting:
The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern agreed:
Tracy similarly found the camera to be "fine" but "noisy." Apple told multiple publications that improvements to the Studio Display's camera would be coming in a software update, but it is unclear exactly what aspect of the reviewers' complaints this update pertains to or when it will be released.
Stands and Nano-Texture Option
Patel noted that the "$300 nanotexture option smudges easily and is hard to clean," while Tracy criticized the Studio Display's stand options:
Hanson said that "it's these kinds of 'hidden' extra costs that try a lot of peoples' patience when it comes to Apple."
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Article Link: Apple Studio Display Reviews: 'A Confounding Miss'
The idea there was that developers didn’t have to do much of anything to take advantage of the “Retina” display. On Windows, I still have issues with some programs where text doesn’t display properly (it either isn’t sharp, or is tiny).
Yes…. You know how many monitors have ultra fine 4K and 144hz refresh. Dozens and dozens. 5k is a gimmick.
