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Apple Studio Display Successor Now Expected Early Next Year

Wolfpup said:
GEEZ does this thing need an upgrade! $1600 with no mini-LED/HDR and only one input is NUTS IMO.

I really want at least an HDMI n so I can connect a second PC, and HDR/mini-LED. Still a crazy price, but it's the only way to give Mac Mini/Studio 'Hey Siri' support.
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It makes much more sense to use Thunderbolt 5 and then a Thunderbolt 5 to HDMI cable or the DisplayPort 2.1 equivalent.

I use my Pro Display with my Window PC rigs just fine using a Thunderbolt to DisplayPort/HDMI cable.

Thunderbolt 5 is faaaaaaar more versatile and has more bandwidth for displays i addition to having built-in KVM + Daisy chaining for optimal connectivity for multiple displays.

An HDMI port is indefinitely dated until HDMI 2.2 ports are available.
 
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arvinsim said:
They need to up the nits and refresh rate to match the display in their laptops.

My MBP already has 120hz and 1600 nits. Don't really see the point of paying more money to downgrade to 60hz and 600 nits.
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The difference is laptops are used outside. I don’t see many people using a desktop computer outside. I’m not saying some people don’t, but I suspect the majority are used indoors.

Also, don’t hold your breath for 120 Hz. I know everyone likes that spec, but the only people that really require it are gamers. Regardless of what Apple says, they don’t even try for that section of the market.

Of course my speculation about what Apple will do in the future is about as worthless as anyone else’s. Apple could do anything
 
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ikramerica said:
4K OLED Tvs aren’t very expensive these days at smaller sizes. Why would a monitor be more? The color accuracy hardware is going to cost whether you use OLED or LCD.
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…Monitors are consistently always more as the economies of scale and attempts to recoup money through ads and other stuff TVs can pull off isn’t available nor desired on monitors.

Smaller sizes made for monitors is an opportunity cost for panel manufacturers who can sell many more phone panels and TVs
 
lkrupp said:
Could the new display actually be a new 27” iMac? Just asking. 😇
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The only way a 27" iMac returns is if it replaces the 24" iMac. LG Display's new Nano IPS Black panels can have a "borderless" design (i.e., almost no bezels), so if Apple were able to reduce the chin and wanted to remove the bezels, it would only be an inch or two larger diagonally than the current iMac.
 
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How many years is it going to take Apple to design a monitor that (a) does not sit too high, and (b) with the height adjustable version, allows you to adjust down and up ... not just upwards. Already over 3 years.
 
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I'm looking forward to to seeing what Apple comes up with. Though I'm still, after 2-3 years of daily use, stoked with my Studio Display.

After initial setup, there's been zero drift over time with respect to color and luminance. Every print that I make from post-processing my image files in Lightroom turns out identical to what I see on the screen.

I can't ask for anything better. Other than perhaps a 32" version of the ASD.
 
DHagan4755 said:
With MacBook Pros going OLED it seems weird that Apple would make a new display that's Mini LED. But a 27" OLED display would probably be megabucks so that's probably why.
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Lol, a 27" OLED on a premium display? Only Apple would pretend that's not standard. OLEDs are not nearly as expensive as they once were.
 
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Had this come out at the same time as the new Mac Studio this year, I’d have been all over it. But, a vague “some time next year”? Nope. My money will be on replacing my phone and/or iPad next year.
 
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I just want a 32" ASD without the XDR price tag. Better yet would be Apple slashing in half the price of the XDR and include a stand, even if not as fancy as the $1k one. lol
 
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It seems that at least for now the conversation is much more educated than it usually is when the Studio Display is mentioned. Progress!

At least for now, at some point someone will complain about it not being a 5k 32" OLED @ 144hz for $999.
 
I would take larger resolution vs framerate any day. Thus I guess new Apple Studio Display is going to be 8k or 10k one, not OLED, 60 hz. This is to match rumored 8K30 videos that iPhone 17 will produce. I dream they make cheaper variant one day, so tired of poor quality monitors from other brands, I would have better bought Apple one if not the price tag
 
jdawgnoonan said:
I agree with you, honestly I have wanted the current Studio Display for a long time because it is a great display with great speakers, but I simply cannot spend that much money on a display that only supports 60hz regardless of how well it is built.
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100 %.

Add to that the camera quality. It was made with Center Stage in mind, so you basically get a low-quality cutout of an ultra wide-angle capture. I hope they do it better in the next iteration, there is enough space in the frame and price tag not to.
 
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I was just on Apple’s website yesterday looking at the Studio Display and contemplating the purchase.
I may hold off if a refresh is imminent.. but I’d definitely like to own one.
 
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lilkwarrior said:
…They already do being the Pro Display XDR that needs to be 6K in order to achieve high PPI.

This isn’t changing as Apple does not desire nor need to sell a monitor significantly less sharp than their other prosumer devices making it then useless to reliably extend what you were working on with the portable screen.

For this reason, it’s explicitly expected Apple will leverage it’s iconic supply chain advantage to release a Tandem OLED successor to the Pro Display XDR as well as the Macbook Pro.

I and many creative professional invaluably benefit from high PPI and their XDR HDR tech (1000 sustained nits, 1600 peak nits) being consistent across their panels.

That is a very, very strongly justified and common reason creative professionals and devs prefer Macs.
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Maybe, and if so that (tandem-OLED 6K 120Hz Pro Display XDR successor) is probably only a couple of years away. Samsung Display has been shopping a prototype 5K 120Hz QD-OLED panel this year, with production next year. LG Display has been mum, but I doubt they are far behind.

But still, the market for Retina 6K without XDR is developing fast. See the Retina 6K *complete* list WikiPost.

Here's my prediction wishlist for what Apple could do in this context:

J427 = Studio Display 5K - Early 2026
Panel: LG Display Nano IPS Black (mini-LED backlight) - 27" 5K 60Hz - 10-bit depth
I/O: Thunderbolt 5
Starts at $1599

J432 = Studio Display 6K - Early 2026
Panel: LG Display Nano IPS Black (mini-LED backlight) - 32" 6K 60Hz - 10-bit depth
I/O: Thunderbolt 5
Starts at $2599

J527 = Pro Display XDR 5K - WWDC 2027
Panel: tandem-OLED - 27" 5K 120Hz - 12-bit depth
I/O: Thunderbolt 5, HDMI 2.2
Starts at $4599

J532 = Pro Display XDR 6K - WWDC 2027
Panel: tandem-OLED - 32" 6K 120Hz - 12-bit depth
I/O: Thunderbolt 5, HDMI 2.2
Starts at $5599
 
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OLED would be really nice but I most hope this new model includes an HDMI input, preferably HDMI 2.1 I absolutely adore my Studio Display (purchased on launch day) and need a second display, primarily to use with my gaming devices. I've been looking at gaming monitors but those would not be ideal for use as a second screen with my Macs.

And I don't have room (or the inclination) to get a gaming monitor today and a second Mac screen when the new Studio Display finally arrives. I need a monitor that's perfect for use with a Mac (the way the Studio Display is) but can also take HDMI input. I'd REALLY like to buy that monitor from Apple.
 
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lilkwarrior said:
It makes much more sense to use Thunderbolt 5 and then a Thunderbolt 5 to HDMI cable or the DisplayPort 2.1 equivalent.

I use my Pro Display with my Window PC rigs just fine using a Thunderbolt to DisplayPort/HDMI cable.

Thunderbolt 5 is faaaaaaar more versatile and has more bandwidth for displays i addition to having built-in KVM + Daisy chaining for optimal connectivity for multiple displays.

An HDMI port is indefinitely dated until HDMI 2.2 ports are available.
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I was hoping for both, but that doesn't let you connect multiple PCs does it? Like it's still a Mac, OR a Windows PC? Not both connecetd at the same time?

And do you get like speaker support and any control over things like brightness from Windows?

Even if all that actually works like I'd love it too, now I'd probably need to wait for the new model lol
 
lilkwarrior said:
4K isn’t ideal after 24” and actually many 27” QD-OLED monitors are really using 24.5” panels from Samsung, LG Display, and AU Optronics to be close enough for this very reason.

5K at 27” and 6K at 32” is needed at minimum for standardized high PPI to be achieved; Apple markets high PPI panels to average people as “retina displays”.

4K is inadequate for that at 27” and that will never change.

Apple has not been interested for well over a decade selling non-high-PPI monitors for very good reason as it’s sound HCI Computer Science common knowledge that PPI/DPI is more meaningful and valuable measure of a screen’s sharpness over resolution which is an implementation detail.

Resolution needs to be variable to achieve particular levels of sharpness via pixels per inch (PPI), device pixel ratio (DPR) and pixels per degree (PPD).
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Technically I get what you're saying, but to me this feels like making up for MacOS text rendering deficiencies (I know there's personal preference involved with that) and also displays at different distances need different resolutions to be equally sharp, and not everyone sees the same either.

russell_314 said:
The difference is laptops are used outside. I don’t see many people using a desktop computer outside. I’m not saying some people don’t, but I suspect the majority are used indoors.

Also, don’t hold your breath for 120 Hz. I know everyone likes that spec, but the only people that really require it are gamers. Regardless of what Apple says, they don’t even try for that section of the market.

Of course my speculation about what Apple will do in the future is about as worthless as anyone else’s. Apple could do anything
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Even inside there's windows and stuff, and it's nice to be able to go bright. Plus proper HDR needs it!

A modern display really ought to hit at least 1000nits at least for some situations/HDR.

omenatarhuri said:
Recently bought a 4k OLED, colors are beautiful but honestly the text isn’t quite as crisp. Not sure if it’s got only to do with the smaller PPI or also display tech.

Looking forward to ASD refresh.
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I've heard OLED doesn't always work as well for text, depending on the panel?
 
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