Apple Studio Display upgrade in 2023?

[Hammie]

I'm on the cusp of getting a base model Apple Studio Display.

It seems to check off all boxes for my needs. Are there any rumors that this will get any changes/upgrades in 2023? Different chip? Different camera hardware?

I can wait as I'm not in any rush.

I also see the rumor of a mini-LED model, but that is just too pricey for me.

 

[xraydoc]

I'm on the cusp of getting a base model Apple Studio Display.

It seems to check off all boxes for my needs. Are there any rumors that this will get any changes/upgrades in 2023? Different chip? Different camera hardware?

I can wait as I'm not in any rush.

I also see the rumor of a mini-LED model, but that is just too pricey for me.

I strongly doubt it, especially given how long the XDR has gone without any tweaks and the price point Apple wants.

 

[jabbr]

according to Ross Young the display supply chain guru, yeah.

Probably in March, MiniLED baby.

 

[JaredJenkinsDesign]

For the current Apple Studio Display, I highly doubt they'll release an updated version aside from the rumored mini-LED model. Perhaps the Pro Display XDR as well as I remember seeing a rumor regarding a 7K model awhile back but I haven't heard much since.

Like xraydoc said, the Pro XDR has gone several years without any updates. So did the Apple Thunderbolt Display. Even the LG 27" 5K model didn't get any significant updates either. I'm fairly confident the Studio Display will follow this pattern.

 

[hoo-man-b-ing]

I highly doubt it, both because it makes little sense from a product perspective and because of global economic forces.

As for Ross Young, I personally find his predictions wanting and wouldn’t use his guidance for any purchase decisions. For reference, he believed the Studio Display Pro with miniLED and Promotion could be out in June 2022.

Then in May he updated it to October 2022.

And then in October he updated it to Q1 2023.

Assume third time’s a charm and it launches in March 2023, a March release would still mean he was off by 10 months from his original statement. Is being right the third time still considered trustworthy? Also, considering he’s already pushed his estimate twice, I have little confidence that he wouldn’t push it a third time.

 

[xraydoc]

I highly doubt it, both because it makes little sense from a product perspective and because of global economic forces.

As for Ross Young, I personally find his predictions wanting and wouldn’t use his guidance for any purchase decisions. For reference, he believed the Studio Display Pro with miniLED and Promotion could be out in June 2022.

Then in May he updated it to October 2022.

And then in October he updated it to Q1 2023.

Assume third time’s a charm and it launches in March 2023, a March release would still mean he was off by 10 months from his original statement. Is being right the third time still considered trustworthy? Also, considering he’s already pushed his estimate twice, I have no confidence that he wouldn’t push it a third time.

I don't believe 5K @ 120Hz is something we'll see until Thunderbolt 5 (or whatever the next gen is called).

 

[jabbr]

TB5 likely for the next macs though?

 

[ascender]

I suspect the current ASD will remain available and unchanged for some time. If only because its taken until very recently for all models to be widely available.

I think the rumoured mini-LED version will sit alongside it, but obviously at a higher price point.

 

[wingennis]

Sorry to be that broken record but there is always something better coming. There is value in buying what you need when you need it.

 

[Hammie]

Sorry to be that broken record but there is always something better coming. There is value in buying what you need when you need it.

I get it. I've been around tech longer than a lot of the members have probably been alive. I know that if you always wait to the next best thing, you will never buy anything.

I ended up buying the ASD this week. I am very pleased with my decision.

 

[enc0re]

I don't believe 5K @ 120Hz is something we'll see until Thunderbolt 5 (or whatever the next gen is called).

DisplayPort 2.0 supports 5K120 (or 6K120 for that matter) as is. You could do it over USB-C if you wanted to.

 

[Hammie]

DisplayPort 2.0 supports 5K120 (or 6K120 for that matter) as is. You could do it over USB-C if you wanted to.

Although DP 2.0 has been out for a while, no one has implemented it that I am aware of. Even the most recent high end GPUs (Nvidia RTX 40x0) are still DP 1.4a. Then there is the debate on whether DSC impacts the overall image quality or not. Although 'lossless', some feel that there is still data that is lost.

 

[BeatCrazy]

Although DP 2.0 has been out for a while, no one has implemented it that I am aware of. Even the most recent high end GPUs (Nvidia RTX 40x0) are still DP 1.4a. Then there is the debate on whether DSC impacts the overall image quality or not. Although 'lossless', some feel that there is still data that is lost.

AMD Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs support DP 2.0

But to answer the OP's question... no I don't think there will be an update Apple Studio Display in 2023. Ross Young (or whoever) can predict all they want about 5K120, but until we have a protocol and Apple hardware that can support it (M2 cannot) then we shouldn't be expecting something different than we already have today.

A 27" mini-LED panel would be too expensive, even for Apple, at the price-point they try to sell the ASD at.

Maybe in 2-3+ years. But not next year. We already know from history, Apple keeps their display cycles very long.

 

[enc0re]

Although DP 2.0 has been out for a while, no one has implemented it that I am aware of. Even the most recent high end GPUs (Nvidia RTX 40x0) are still DP 1.4a. Then there is the debate on whether DSC impacts the overall image quality or not. Although 'lossless', some feel that there is still data that is lost.

As mentioned, all the new AMD cards are DP2.0. Also, DP2.0 can handle 6K120 without DSC. That being said, I consider a DSC implementation likely. It seems to be becoming the standard.

 

[jdelcorr]

I'm on the same boat as the OP. Just bought the M2 MacBook Pro and need a display to go along with it. I have been using a 4K Dell for the last 6 years and could really use a change, but would hate to have a new one come out in two months.. What should I do?

 

[tstafford]

I'm on the same boat as the OP. Just bought the M2 MacBook Pro and need a display to go along with it. I have been using a 4K Dell for the last 6 years and could really use a change, but would hate to have a new one come out in two months.. What should I do?

No one really knows. But I think there's a decent chance the new monitor isn't an ASD refresh but rather a higher end model that will be above the ASD in specs and price. My guess is it will sit b/w the ASD and XDR and cost ~$2.5-$3K. FWIW - I'd expect an XDR update before an ASD update.

Just my speculation based on what I've read. YMMV.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

You should consider some of the displays announced at CES instead. The Apple Studio Display is waaaay overpriced.