overpriced g4's until end of 2005 (pb g4 hires) still no ogg in ipods still no full open standard formats in iwork (not just export for example) fanboy taxes on new products (iphone) fanboy taxes on more stylish products (black macbook) buggy applications (safari3) apple has lost any ideals. it's just about making money anymore. these are just a few examples. if apple will become in a position like microsoft is they will do the same with just a bit more style. don't flame me. i just wanted to say it.