Gurman was on a WWDC-related podcast throwing more shade on Gruber's allegations that Apple didn't have a working prototype of personal Siri. It's hilarious the degree to which those two do not like one another.
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Apple Sued by Shareholder Over Delayed Siri Features Allegedly Lowering Stock Price
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but that would be after it is deemed to actually go to trial, or? But yes, certainly a possibility
You can't contract your way out of consumer protection laws.
Interesting. Wonder if it will go anywhere.
I own Apple stock. I skipped the 16 as I felt Apple would be unable to deliver the claimed AppInt and Smart Siri.
Not suing as companies do occasionally muck up. This to me was more of a “we can do it! Oh. Maybe not…”
Too many misses and I’ll sell it.
I did notice that after a couple of months, Apple commercials changed their verbiage. Noticed it first on the Snoop commercials.
I own Apple stock. I skipped the 16 as I felt Apple would be unable to deliver the claimed AppInt and Smart Siri.
Not suing as companies do occasionally muck up. This to me was more of a “we can do it! Oh. Maybe not…”
Too many misses and I’ll sell it.
I did notice that after a couple of months, Apple commercials changed their verbiage. Noticed it first on the Snoop commercials.
Does Apple deserve to be sued for certain parts of their more personalized Siri not materializing in the Apple Intelligence features that they announced last summer? Well … yeah, possibly, considering they actively advertised several of those features heavily to promote the iPhone 16 lineup. And depending on what internal communications come out in discovery, we will either find out that Hair Force One’s Dub-Dub press tour was entirely accurate in that they had a working model that just wasn’t up to their standards for a public release, or we’ll find out that Gruber was right and Apple lied its ass off and is desperately trying to scrub all the AI egg off of their faces.
Given how many other own-goals and bad decisions Apple’s leadership has made in recent memory, I would not rule out Gruber being correct about the “more personalized Siri” features being as much vaporware as Steve Jobs’s nonexistent open FaceTime protocol. That being said, I am also totally willing to believe what Craig has been saying in his interviews. But the point of a lawsuit is to examine the evidence and expose the truth. So we’ll see how all of that plays out in the years to come. It promises to be interesting.
But a stockholder lawsuit alleging that this situation hurt the stock price? C’mon, get outta here! What a joke!
Given how many other own-goals and bad decisions Apple’s leadership has made in recent memory, I would not rule out Gruber being correct about the “more personalized Siri” features being as much vaporware as Steve Jobs’s nonexistent open FaceTime protocol. That being said, I am also totally willing to believe what Craig has been saying in his interviews. But the point of a lawsuit is to examine the evidence and expose the truth. So we’ll see how all of that plays out in the years to come. It promises to be interesting.
But a stockholder lawsuit alleging that this situation hurt the stock price? C’mon, get outta here! What a joke!
Wait until Apple increases the system requirements for their AI making the iPhone 16 obsolete. 
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📱 🔨This is a D&O Insurance ploy. ANYONE who thinks they should have made more money from a stock for ANY reason can sue with "You should have told us we were going to lose money" claim. The reason it's a profitable strategy is an asymmetry - the Directors and Officers Insurance that would pay the plaintiff will NOT pay if the company loses in court. They WILL pay if there is a settlement. The theorem follows, as they say.
imagine being so rich that you can afford to sue a company of this size over losing some cash from some poor business decisions they made.
it's just legalized gambling. stocks go up, stocks go down. this eric dude is having rich man tears problems.
it's just legalized gambling. stocks go up, stocks go down. this eric dude is having rich man tears problems.
It didn’t make that big of a difference. Everyone knew Apple Intelligence was a joke from the very beginning, so...
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Think whatever you want about this lawsuit, I think there is an argument to be made on both sides.
but I hope that almost everyone at least agrees on one thing though.
Using a John Gruber opinion piece as some type of “evidence” of wrongdoing is crazy work.
because yes, that is what his blog post was, an opinion peace. In that article, any accusations of Apple not having anything internally are just that, accusatory opinions. Gruber himself has absolutely no knowledge of how far along a new Siri was, and even if he did, it wouldn’t matter because you wouldn’t be able to use some guys company leaks in your lawsuit.
but I hope that almost everyone at least agrees on one thing though.
Using a John Gruber opinion piece as some type of “evidence” of wrongdoing is crazy work.
because yes, that is what his blog post was, an opinion peace. In that article, any accusations of Apple not having anything internally are just that, accusatory opinions. Gruber himself has absolutely no knowledge of how far along a new Siri was, and even if he did, it wouldn’t matter because you wouldn’t be able to use some guys company leaks in your lawsuit.
And yet no one complains on the way up, right?
Maybe next time do proper research before trusting any company's claims, even Apple's.
Maybe next time do proper research before trusting any company's claims, even Apple's.
they had working prototypes and alpha code.
but then realised it wasnt going to ramp up to real world demand and needed rewriting... surely every IT professional has faced similar rollouts?
best to lose face not releasing something bad... lesser of two evils.
perhaps, at best, marketing needed to not be driving software release
this year theyve learnt and not repeated the same thing.
but then realised it wasnt going to ramp up to real world demand and needed rewriting... surely every IT professional has faced similar rollouts?
best to lose face not releasing something bad... lesser of two evils.
perhaps, at best, marketing needed to not be driving software release
this year theyve learnt and not repeated the same thing.
What you mentioned about EULA is definitely there. There has been no false advertising. Like you said, this guy wants Apple to pay for his stock taking a hit and trying to use the judicial system as a weapon of force. Judicial Activism is not something we want to see happening if we are about the law being properly applied.
What you posted has nothing to do with this case.People who think this will get easily thrown out, don't fully understand how powerful CEO statements are.
Apple reaches $490 million settlement over CEO Cook's China sales comments
Apple agreed to pay $490 million to settle a class-action lawsuit that alleged Chief Executive Tim Cook defrauded shareholders by concealing falling demand for iPhones in China.www.reuters.com
Neither Tim or anyone else working for him at Apple,has made any definitive statements that I am aware of, that precisely state the official release of Apple Intelligence with all the features mentioned at the keynote.
When you turn it on you are agreeing to the EULA
Both were/are extremely complex projects. Apple has done well keeping the experience relatively simple and predictable.
Evolution. MobileMe led to iCloud, which is fantastic. Apple Intelligence will evolve into something that is the envy of digital device makers everywhere.
Frivolous lawsuit and it should be dismissed with prejudice. Greedy socialist filing an unwarranted lawsuit. They should be throughly punished for being the lawsuit. Probably have not written a line of code, and no HTML, JavaScript, and Pythons do not count.
I wonder if the plaintiffs lawyer will demonstrate the current Siri during the trial .
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