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Apple Sued for Choosing Not to 'Lock-Out' iPhones Behind the Wheel to Prevent Texting and Driving

mozumder said:
So, how do you force behavior without forcing behavior?
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The roads are for going from point a to point b.

THATS IT.

It's not an entertainment hotspot or your office.
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Through education. Which I do admit we need to take more seriously. Making things illegal or inaccessible only further pushes certain groups to thrive on having it.

As for travel, you're telling me as a passenger I shouldn't be able to check my phone at all? Just going from one city to another in Texas takes hours. If my boss was calling? My fiancee who is law enforcement and may be trying to contact me because he's in the hospital?
 
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Mlrollin91 said:
And trains and buses? We are talking about those that are passengers. You cannot take away passenger's phones because they are not breaking the law. Someone sitting in the backseat of a car for 4 hours deserves to be able to use their phone.
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No. They don't.
 
mozumder said:
What laws affect behavioral free will?
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Huh? In this particular case it is already illegal to have a cell phone in your hand while you're driving. So you enforce that. Problem solved. I guess to answer your question, every law that has ever been written affects behavioral free will.
 
mozumder said:
So, how do you force behavior without forcing behavior?
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The roads are for going from point a to point b.

THATS IT.

It's not an entertainment hotspot or your office.
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If you are a passenger in a car, bus or train then you should be allowed to use your phone. I'm guessing you have never had a five hour train up to Scotland, or thought greener by not travelling solo in a car and travelled by coach instead. There's only so much staring out of a window that anyone can do before they get exceptionally bored.
 
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mozumder said:
That's only your personal experience, which doesn't matter. What matters is the overall stats on safety.



Yes.

This is why you can't have nice things in your life, because other people ruined it for you.
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I am trying to figure out whether you are:

1. a troll
2. an out of control authoritarian, or
3. incredibly stupid.
 
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Umm, no phone manufacturer has ever done this, despite the fact that it would be have always been very easy to do from a technical standpoint, even back in the days of feature phones.

Really, there needs to be personal accountability, not just say oh, the manufacturer should have prevented this, they provide us with the tools, we CHOOSE how to use them.
 
I am in favour of phones automatically going into "Silent/Do Not Disturb Mode" while moving at speed. That would reduce the number of distractions, at least.
 
Kedward71 said:
If you are a passenger in a car, bus or train then you should be allowed to use your phone. I'm guessing you have never had a five hour train up to Scotland, or thought greener by not travelling solo in a car and travelled by coach instead. There's only so much staring out of a window that anyone can do before they get exceptionally bored.
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I'm sorry, but what did people do before 2007?

Why do people feel so entitled?
 
cyberlocke said:
I've got a better idea: stop the sale of automatic transmissions. It's a good deal harder to text and drive when you have to shift every 10 seconds. Besides, people have to actually learn a little about their cars to drive a manual, making us all a little bit smarter. Oh, and it's a lot more fun.

OK, I'm done.
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That's a great idea but doesn't work. I was riding with my sister on a mountainous road and when she needed to shift she just moved the phone to another hand. Very scary!
 
A far, far more important issue is drunk driving. Before turning off texting, people should sue alcoholic beverage companies whenever there is a traffic accident from alcohol abuse.

People do need to do some texting while in the passenger car.
 
andy.ringwood said:
Wow. It's Apple's fault if someone uses their devices behind the wheel? No. Just no. If someone is injured or killed and they were on their phone, tough luck, I've no sympathy at all. It's utter stupidity.
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(Just picking your post at random. No offense.)

A lot of posters seem to assume that the plaintiff was using the phone and caused a crash. The opposite is true: he was sitting at a stop light when someone messing on a phone plowed into his car from behind.

The article points out that a similar lawsuit was filed by a Texas family who lost their five year old little girl, when someone smashed into them from behind. She was crushed, and died later on. The person who ran into them was using Facetime while driving.

Both cases are about victims who don't want others to have the same thing happen to them.

Whether that's feasible to make happen, is what the debate should be about. Not over whether someone deserves to die, either as perpetrator or innocent victim.
 
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those legal fees it's going to cost this idiot is going to be laughable when his case gets completely shot down. what an idiot.

when you're in your car put your phone in your damn pocket
 
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coolfactor said:
I am in favour of phones automatically going into "Silent/Do Not Disturb Mode" while moving at speed. That would reduce the number of distractions, at least.
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See, this is a practical solution. Because passengers could still open their phone and view messages and what not. But saying passengers cannot use their phone at all is just stupid.
 
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Sorry if this has already been said...8 pages on this already...

I plan to sue car manufacturers for allowing their cars to operate when a smartphone is being used in the vehicle.
 
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