No way to be enrolled with two-factor authentication without your knowledge. It’s a whole rigmarole of signing in with your Apple ID.
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Apple Sued Over Not Letting Customers Disable Two-Factor Authentication After Two Weeks
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While they're at it, let us switch off the automatic download and nagging about updates. Now THATS annoying.
The way the opening sentence reads make this site sound like some 3rd rate geocities blog. Maybe feign an attempt at objectivity?
I will say that the fact that you can't disable two factor is not sufficiently communicated - which wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if it weren't for apple's planned obsolescence - my mother in law turned it on and was in no way warned that she would no longer be able to use her 2nd gen Apple TV, rendering it completely useless.
I will say that the fact that you can't disable two factor is not sufficiently communicated - which wouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if it weren't for apple's planned obsolescence - my mother in law turned it on and was in no way warned that she would no longer be able to use her 2nd gen Apple TV, rendering it completely useless.
Well, now, hopefully the complainers can see why Apple products are expensive. Not only are they worth it (build quality, etc), but IDIOTS like this keep making Apple have to spend unnecessarily on cases like this that are in fact frivolous.
And this same person will turn around and sue Apple again for allowing his devices to be hacked and his data stolen after he disabled Two - Step authentication.
Early on they were issues with it and was optional and you could disable it at any time, as a developer I at one time could not use it as Apple software for iOS and macOS for developers wouldn’t just work right and was forced to keep it off.
Today everything is pretty much ironed out and have it turned on as I allway wanted the highest level of security.
It doesn’t take a few seconds to enter the pin and my mam got one time a alert on her phone that someone in another country was trying to log in with her Apple ID, well if this second layer of security was not in place they would be in and took over her iPhone and iPad so anyone suing Apple over this is brain dead guess they be suing their landlord for having to use a key to open the door and asking for it to be removed and left open for easy access
Just ask yourself how many have more than one lock on their door, and how many have locks on their windows these days.
Today everything is pretty much ironed out and have it turned on as I allway wanted the highest level of security.
It doesn’t take a few seconds to enter the pin and my mam got one time a alert on her phone that someone in another country was trying to log in with her Apple ID, well if this second layer of security was not in place they would be in and took over her iPhone and iPad so anyone suing Apple over this is brain dead guess they be suing their landlord for having to use a key to open the door and asking for it to be removed and left open for easy access
Just ask yourself how many have more than one lock on their door, and how many have locks on their windows these days.
I don’t believe you are necessarily entitled to that particular choice, no. However, I can be convinced. So, since you are the one positing that such a choice is an entitlement, I repeat my question: why? What is the source of this entitlement? Contractual? Deriving from statute? Natural law? Is everyone entitled to choices in every situation? Is every manufacturer required to allow me to customize every device in any way I want? Are they required to cede their rights under Title 17 of the U.S. Code?
What is your basis for saying that consumers have this right, and how far does this right extend?
I'll say it again - there wouldn't be as much sympathy for this kind of thing if Apple didn't pull BS like making 2nd gen apple tvs not usable with 2 factor.
There definitely needs to be a way to disable 2FA. I'm glad I had the wherewithal to have never enabled it on my devices. It's a huge PIA when trying to troubleshoot issues for non-techie family members that don't carry multiple devices everywhere they go.
I synch between three geographically separated computers when I travel, and have a further two backup units. This tends to bust the "authorized device" count for purchased media and apps (even free ones) from time to time (limit 5 devices?), forcing a minor annoyance of having to sign in to the AppStore. I'm in favor of any suit against any limitation of how I use my devices. If I buy an appliance and decide to abuse it without harming any other parties, that's my choice. It's my device, not the manufacturer's.
Calling this lawsuit frivolous is an insult to frivolous lawsuits everywhere.
Apple 2FA really messed me up when I accidentally let it enable, and then my trusted device was the device I was trying to set up. Crazy. Awful. I got it disabled online and never looked back.
To disable 2FA, couldn't someone just go through the motion as if the device was being sold? Disable iCloud, remove from 2FA, reset the device, and then re-register is with an entirely new account without 2FA? I think that would be a way around the whole 2FA debacle.
To disable 2FA, couldn't someone just go through the motion as if the device was being sold? Disable iCloud, remove from 2FA, reset the device, and then re-register is with an entirely new account without 2FA? I think that would be a way around the whole 2FA debacle.
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I agree 100% with you. It’s sad I have to worry about people with my info not securing their devices. They have my email, phone number, photos of me, address, and no much more.
Without commenting on the merits of this case, I'd prefer that the MacRumors team not editorialize like this. Leave that to the pundits. Share the facts and leave it at that.
We can come to our own conclusions, thankyouverymuch.
I appreciate the feedback. It’s not always easy to please everyone. I rarely add any opinion to my articles and try to stick to the facts. Had I not used the word “frivoulous” here, though, there likely would have been a handful of comments asking “why is this a story?” This lawsuit contains multiple obviously false allegations.
My goal is to share new information about Apple. So, if they’re named in a lawsuit, regardless of how silly the complaint may be, then I aim to report the news. Perhaps I should stick to ignoring the comments asking why some topics are stories. It’s tough.
Anyone who has any personal information on his phone should sue him for not properly protecting their information. I always delete my info from my friends phones when I find out they don’t use or use simple, easy to guess passwords.
I hear you, and apologies for my overly harsh comment. That being said, Apple has some 'splaining to do around its 2 factor processes.
I did not know they were forced to use two factor? I wasn’t.
So, basically, suing Apple for everything is still “a thing”
You just gave me a great idea, I am always in rush while driving and police unconvinces me by stoping me for random check. I should sue them. Actually thinking of it, we all should sue the governments and all the corporations for everything they do to us. Just imagine all the countries people suing Monsanto for Roundup, all Vietnamese people would sue Monsanto for Agent Orange, all Americans suing the US government for faking incidents to justify the start of the war (again Vietnam comes to mind), US and French people suing their governments for the same reasons, suing MacDonald for their work on South American’s rain forests, ... list is very very long.
Wow, this planet could be spectacularly amazing place if people would care to stand to real problems.
And I mean, real problems and real solutions, not like
“save the environment by having a shopping bag for life” while the western armies are bombing Syria with white phosphorus bombs and other places with depleted uranium.
If a lawsuit is "frivolous" it is plainly without merit and technically speaking, the lawyer who brought it could be sanctioned, as it is unethical to file frivolous lawsuits. It's just a really heavy and loaded term.
Calling it a "questionable" filing or saying it was "likely to cause some to question its merits" would have been more appropriate, I think.
Lawsuit is obviously stupid, but I will say that Apple’s 2FA has consistently been a nightmare for me. There was a good year where it was going to an iPad I bought and set up for my mother.
Then there was the year where my wife and I both bought new iPhones on launch day and wiped our old phones but were also each others’ 2FA.
Weirdest thing was that 3 weeks ago I couldn’t remember a new(ish) password and had to use 2FA sent to my wife’s phone and the message that popped up on her phone was that I could reset my password after waiting 1 full day and that they would alert her phone when that time had elapsed. So I had to keep checking my wife’s phone the next day, just to reset a damn password. Since when was 2-factor a two device AND 2 day process?!
Then there was the year where my wife and I both bought new iPhones on launch day and wiped our old phones but were also each others’ 2FA.
Weirdest thing was that 3 weeks ago I couldn’t remember a new(ish) password and had to use 2FA sent to my wife’s phone and the message that popped up on her phone was that I could reset my password after waiting 1 full day and that they would alert her phone when that time had elapsed. So I had to keep checking my wife’s phone the next day, just to reset a damn password. Since when was 2-factor a two device AND 2 day process?!
Oh, I was mocking the way Americans pronounce the different English words. They even change the spelling to suit them.
And, I guess it is from watching Hollywood movies, but the rest of the world is starting to enunciate the words more in the American way, not the English way. Even Canadians are doing this - except for Zed!
Yes, I am aware of the Anglo-Saxon roots and age.